Re: [WISPA] Why's WISPA silent about this? 2 diferent issues at hand

2006-06-06 Thread John J. Thomas
I think the general thinking is that WISP's shouldn't have to pay to make the Governments' job easier... John -Original Message- From: Sam Tetherow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 5, 2006 11:29 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Why's WISPA silent about

Re: [WISPA] Why's WISPA silent about this? 2 diferent issues at hand

2006-06-06 Thread Mark Koskenmaki
- Original Message - From: Butch Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 9:04 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Why's WISPA silent about this? 2 diferent issues at hand On Sun, 4 Jun 2006, George Rogato wrote: 1) Does the government have

Re: [WISPA] Why's WISPA silent about this? 2 diferent issues at hand

2006-06-06 Thread Butch Evans
On Mon, 5 Jun 2006, Mark Koskenmaki wrote: On Sun, 4 Jun 2006, George Rogato wrote: 1) Does the government have a right to know the actions of Americans on the internet? This is not really at issue. At least it is not really of any concern for us here. Of course this is AT ISSUE. Or do

Re: [WISPA] Why's WISPA silent about this? 2 diferent issues at hand

2006-06-05 Thread Butch Evans
On Sun, 4 Jun 2006, George Rogato wrote: Most likely wispa will act on this. But, ultimately, it comes down to does the membership of wispa want to do this. Which is what I said in my first post on the subject. I don't mean to be rude, but shouldn't the paying members that make up the wispa

Re: [WISPA] Why's WISPA silent about this? 2 diferent issues at hand

2006-06-05 Thread George Rogato
Well now I don't feel so alone in my opinions :) I still consider you a wisp, isn't that what brought us all here together? George Butch Evans wrote: On Sun, 4 Jun 2006, George Rogato wrote: Most likely wispa will act on this. But, ultimately, it comes down to does the membership of wispa

Re: [WISPA] Why's WISPA silent about this? 2 diferent issues at hand

2006-06-05 Thread Sam Tetherow
I want to preface this email with the statement that I ABSOLUTELY DO NOT support this law, it is an invasion of privacy and places an undue burden of responsibility on an ISP. Now that being said, as I read the article, and as some have pointed out the information being requested for archive

Re: [WISPA] Why's WISPA silent about this? 2 diferent issues at hand

2006-06-04 Thread George Rogato
I could be wrong but as I have followed this thread there are 2 issues at hand. 1) Does the government have a right to know the actions of Americans on the internet? 2) Is this a responsibility of the ISP to bear the burden of gathering this information or should the burden be carried by

Re: [WISPA] Why's WISPA silent about this? 2 diferent issues at hand

2006-06-04 Thread Sam Tetherow
While I agree with your breakdown and the general statement that #1 should be decided on by the country as a whole. I think it is up to us as an industry that understands the implications of what is being asked for to make a statement about #1 even if it is just a clarification of the

Re: [WISPA] Why's WISPA silent about this? 2 diferent issues at hand

2006-06-04 Thread Butch Evans
On Sun, 4 Jun 2006, George Rogato wrote: 1) Does the government have a right to know the actions of Americans on the internet? This is not really at issue. At least it is not really of any concern for us here. 2) Is this a responsibility of the ISP to bear the burden of gathering this

Re: [WISPA] Why's WISPA silent about this? 2 diferent issues at hand

2006-06-04 Thread George Rogato
Butch, Most likely wispa will act on this. But, ultimately, it comes down to does the membership of wispa want to do this. I don't mean to be rude, but shouldn't the paying members that make up the wispa membership decide what wispa acts on or not? It's not that I disagree with any of this,