Re: [WISPA] Will this bother WISPs?

2005-10-28 Thread RickG
I'm off the chart ;P


OregonFast SpeedTest Your current bandwidth reading is:
136533.3 Kbps
which means you can download at 17066.66 KB/sec. from our servers.***
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Dang - I couldnt get but 691kbps:-)turn me up GeorgeMac DearmanMaximum Access, LLC.
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George wrote: my test site: http://www.oregonfast.net/speedtest/ George danlist wrote:
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 George wrote: Service is #1 after a person gets on to broadband. Service is our edge. George
 I just left a new installs house. While there his speed test results were saying 3,400 to 4,300k. I told the guy, look it's smokin, nobody goes this fast
 He said, yeah man, thats why I got yours, everyone knows your the fastest. So speed is a great advertizer as well. Speed # 2.
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Re: [WISPA] Will this bother WISPs?

2005-10-28 Thread Tony Weasler
It looks like I'm about 75ms rtt away from you and at ~1mbps... not
bad for a jaunt through WCG's network which adds about 70ms to the
trip.  My local outgoing connection was 100mbps to AS4323.

 - Tony


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 my test site:
 
 http://www.oregonfast.net/speedtest/
 
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Re: [WISPA] Will this bother WISPs?

2005-10-27 Thread Brian Rohrbacher






Brian Rohrbacher wrote:
http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/68920
  



DoD Buying Sprint's iDEN Network
Rumored deal could be huge for cable industry

Posted 2005-10-27 13:10:42
User Comcast_Loke
sends in this PCS
Intel Blog story that indicates the Department of Defense will be
buying Sprint's iDEN network as "the first phase of a national
overhaul of its security framework in regards to communication."
The gist is that the government will move much of its wireless
communications onto one encrypted wireless network, and Sprint/Nextel
customers will be issued dual-network CDMA/iDEN handsets, so that as
iDEN becomes restricted, CDMA will take its place. 

The report also claims that in exchange, Sprint will get plenty of
spectrum in the 700  800Mhz bands for mobile Wimax broadband
service. Keep in mind that if true, most of this wouldn't happen until
around 2010, which roughly gels with Wimax analyst timeline predictions.
The report claims the deal won't even be announced until 2007 or 2008.


This move makes this week's news
of a Sprint co-branding wireless deal with Comcast, Time Warner Cable,
and Cox slightly more interesting. The deal would give Sprint priority
access to Wimax spectrum, letting those three cable giants offer
re-branded Wimax to better compete with baby Bell Wimax offerings.


This whole scenario assumes a lot; at the forefront that mobile
Wimax is a solid business model. If Wimax tanks however, the report
seems to indicate that Sprint's deal with Uncle Sam allows them to
instead grab ample 2.5 GHz spectrum, and deploy the most popular
technology at the time (like WiBro). 

Either way, the cable industry would be well positioned for wireless
broadband competition.



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Re: [WISPA] Will this bother WISPs?

2005-10-27 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
Didn't you know?  EVERYTHING that happens is bad for ISPs.  I've been told 
that every time I turn around since '97 when I opened the doors.


And yet our wireless base has DOUBLED in less than 24 months with NO 
advertising (we can't handle the growth already).


Oh well, I guess if it really does screw things up I can just go find a real 
job and drop down to an 8 hour day like the rest of you losers!  roflol


grin
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Re: [WISPA] Will this bother WISPs?

2005-10-27 Thread Brian Rohrbacher

The thought of the big boys with 700MHz Wi Max saddens me. :(

Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:

Didn't you know?  EVERYTHING that happens is bad for ISPs.  I've been 
told that every time I turn around since '97 when I opened the doors.


And yet our wireless base has DOUBLED in less than 24 months with NO 
advertising (we can't handle the growth already).


Oh well, I guess if it really does screw things up I can just go find 
a real job and drop down to an 8 hour day like the rest of you 
losers!  roflol


grin
laters,
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www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam



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Re: [WISPA] Will this bother WISPs?

2005-10-27 Thread George

Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:


And yet our wireless base has DOUBLED in less than 24 months with NO 
advertising (we can't handle the growth already).




Funny thing.
I don't advertise any more either.
I get all my customers from referrals.
Some that we pay comish on and others not.
I have saved tens of thousands by getting rid of the expensive ads.

George
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Re: [WISPA] Will this bother WISPs?

2005-10-27 Thread George
Me too, but aside from giving up market pace we can still do a pretty 
good job gaining customers.


I am competing in a Qwest DSL market and Charter Broadband, and we are 
continously turning on new subs, ever day.


Some come from those guys, and they are the sweetest of all.

Service is #1 after a person gets on to broadband.

Service is our edge.

George


Brian Rohrbacher wrote:

The thought of the big boys with 700MHz Wi Max saddens me. :(

Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:

Didn't you know?  EVERYTHING that happens is bad for ISPs.  I've been 
told that every time I turn around since '97 when I opened the doors.


And yet our wireless base has DOUBLED in less than 24 months with NO 
advertising (we can't handle the growth already).


Oh well, I guess if it really does screw things up I can just go find 
a real job and drop down to an 8 hour day like the rest of you 
losers!  roflol


grin
laters,
Marlon
(509) 982-2181   Equipment sales
(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp!
64.146.146.12 (net meeting)
www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam



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Re: [WISPA] Will this bother WISPs?

2005-10-27 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
Send me a customer, they sign up and pay at least one month's service and 
I'll give you a free month.


Up to 12 per year.  I tell them that if they can send more people than that 
we'll put them on the payroll.


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Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 12:36 PM
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Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:


And yet our wireless base has DOUBLED in less than 24 months with NO 
advertising (we can't handle the growth already).




Funny thing.
I don't advertise any more either.
I get all my customers from referrals.
Some that we pay comish on and others not.
I have saved tens of thousands by getting rid of the expensive ads.

George
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Re: [WISPA] Will this bother WISPs?

2005-10-27 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181

Touché pussy cat!

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Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 12:39 PM
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Me too, but aside from giving up market pace we can still do a pretty good 
job gaining customers.


I am competing in a Qwest DSL market and Charter Broadband, and we are 
continously turning on new subs, ever day.


Some come from those guys, and they are the sweetest of all.

Service is #1 after a person gets on to broadband.

Service is our edge.

George


Brian Rohrbacher wrote:

The thought of the big boys with 700MHz Wi Max saddens me. :(

Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:

Didn't you know?  EVERYTHING that happens is bad for ISPs.  I've been 
told that every time I turn around since '97 when I opened the doors.


And yet our wireless base has DOUBLED in less than 24 months with NO 
advertising (we can't handle the growth already).


Oh well, I guess if it really does screw things up I can just go find a 
real job and drop down to an 8 hour day like the rest of you losers! 
roflol


grin
laters,
Marlon
(509) 982-2181   Equipment sales
(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp!
64.146.146.12 (net meeting)
www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam



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Re: [WISPA] Will this bother WISPs?

2005-10-27 Thread George

George wrote:


Service is #1 after a person gets on to broadband.

Service is our edge.

George


I just left a new installs house.
While there his speed test results were saying 3,400 to 4,300k.
I told the guy, look it's smokin, nobody goes this fast
He said, yeah man, thats why I got yours, everyone knows your the fastest.

So speed is a great advertizer as well.

Speed # 2.


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RE: [WISPA] Will this bother WISPs?

2005-10-27 Thread danlist
What test site?

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 George wrote:
 
  Service is #1 after a person gets on to broadband.
 
  Service is our edge.
 
  George
 
 I just left a new installs house.
 While there his speed test results were saying 3,400 to 4,300k.
 I told the guy, look it's smokin, nobody goes this fast
 He said, yeah man, thats why I got yours, everyone knows your the fastest.
 
 So speed is a great advertizer as well.
 
 Speed # 2.
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] Will this bother WISPs?

2005-10-27 Thread George

my test site:

http://www.oregonfast.net/speedtest/

George

danlist wrote:

What test site?



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George wrote:


Service is #1 after a person gets on to broadband.

Service is our edge.

George


I just left a new installs house.
While there his speed test results were saying 3,400 to 4,300k.
I told the guy, look it's smokin, nobody goes this fast
He said, yeah man, thats why I got yours, everyone knows your the fastest.

So speed is a great advertizer as well.

Speed # 2.


George
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Re: [WISPA] Will this bother WISPs?

2005-10-27 Thread Mac Dearman

Dang - I couldnt get but 691kbps  :-)

turn me up George

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George wrote:


my test site:

http://www.oregonfast.net/speedtest/

George

danlist wrote:


What test site?



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George wrote:


Service is #1 after a person gets on to broadband.

Service is our edge.

George



I just left a new installs house.
While there his speed test results were saying 3,400 to 4,300k.
I told the guy, look it's smokin, nobody goes this fast
He said, yeah man, thats why I got yours, everyone knows your the 
fastest.


So speed is a great advertizer as well.

Speed # 2.


George
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Re: [WISPA] Will this bother WISPs?

2005-10-27 Thread A. Huppenthal

i tested from here and my modem only does 45Kbits/sec
:-)

Mac Dearman wrote:


Dang - I couldnt get but 691kbps  :-)

turn me up George

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George wrote:


my test site:

http://www.oregonfast.net/speedtest/

George

danlist wrote:


What test site?



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George wrote:


Service is #1 after a person gets on to broadband.

Service is our edge.

George




I just left a new installs house.
While there his speed test results were saying 3,400 to 4,300k.
I told the guy, look it's smokin, nobody goes this fast
He said, yeah man, thats why I got yours, everyone knows your the 
fastest.


So speed is a great advertizer as well.

Speed # 2.


George
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Re: [WISPA] Will this bother WISPs?

2005-10-27 Thread George

Yeppers its time for a new upstream provider.

George

Mac Dearman wrote:

Dang - I couldnt get but 691kbps  :-)

turn me up George

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George wrote:


my test site:

http://www.oregonfast.net/speedtest/

George

danlist wrote:


What test site?



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George wrote:


Service is #1 after a person gets on to broadband.

Service is our edge.

George




I just left a new installs house.
While there his speed test results were saying 3,400 to 4,300k.
I told the guy, look it's smokin, nobody goes this fast
He said, yeah man, thats why I got yours, everyone knows your the 
fastest.


So speed is a great advertizer as well.

Speed # 2.


George
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Re: [WISPA] Will this bother WISPs?

2005-10-27 Thread John Scrivner
I only pay for yellow page ads right now. I have all the business I can 
fund right now. I wish I could fund more growth.

Scriv



George wrote:


Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:



And yet our wireless base has DOUBLED in less than 24 months with NO 
advertising (we can't handle the growth already).




Funny thing.
I don't advertise any more either.
I get all my customers from referrals.
Some that we pay comish on and others not.
I have saved tens of thousands by getting rid of the expensive ads.

George


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Re: [WISPA] Will this bother WISPs?

2005-10-27 Thread Butch Evans
On Thu, 27 Oct 2005, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:

Why?  It won't be that much better for them than they have it now.
700 mhz already went to auciton, they already have it.  And almost
no one (yet again) is doing jack with it.  And there's no product
that's even remotely cost effective.

It's not a matter of cost effectiveness.  The ILEC I am partnered
with owns a LARGE area in southern Missouri.  The equipment that is
available is not, yet working well.  I am testing the WaveIP product
right now.  I do not like the way they implemented the system, and
the available throughput is just too low.  The WaveIp and Airspan
products (both) are based on the WiMax chips, so when that becomes
available, they will be able to run the WiMax protocols.  Perhaps
others would like the implementation, but they have shown me NOTHING
that is impressive so far.  I WILL say that I have been able to make
a link, standing on the ground holding the antenna at 20.75 miles
and pulled the same throughput I did standing under the tower.  The
NLOS properties of this band (lower 700MHz) is very impressive, but
the product just plain sucks.

They still don't get it (lets hope none of them ever hires people
like you and me.  THAT's my biggest fear).  They'll want gear

Wellthey hired me.  Does that count?

-- 
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