Re: [WISPA] does water ruin antennas?

2008-08-19 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
Yeah, use wireless!

OK, other than that, there is a device that basically drills a horizontal 
hole in the ground.  Or it'll push conduit through the ground.

Out here it's called pushing a line.  Not sure what the real term is for the 
device that does the drilling/pushing.

laters,
marlon

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> If one was wanting to run fiber in an already developed neighborhood, the
> obvious obstacles are existing concrete roads, drives and sidewalks. What
> are your options for getting around this other than destroying and fixing
> which is not an option? Is there a technology that would allow you to 
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> conduit underneath concrete drives and such?
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> John Buwa
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Re: [WISPA] does water ruin antennas?

2008-08-19 Thread Sales


Hello,

If one was wanting to run fiber in an already developed neighborhood, the
obvious obstacles are existing concrete roads, drives and sidewalks. What
are your options for getting around this other than destroying and fixing
which is not an option? Is there a technology that would allow you to drive
conduit underneath concrete drives and such?

Thanks,
John Buwa
Michiana Wireless





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Re: [WISPA] does water ruin antennas?

2008-08-19 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
Antennas a cheap these days.  When in doubt, toss it out.

I replace everything, radio included, all of the time now.  Started doing 
that a couple of years ago, man has my life gotten better and my work load 
lighter!
marlon

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> So, if I have a suspect antenna that might have got water in it, is it
> ruined, or can it dry out, be resealed and work just fine?
>
>
> Specifically, I have a couple omni's from sites that seemed to be under
> powered.  The culprit could have been the radio card, pigtail, cable or
> omni, I don't know.  I replaced it all.  The reason I ask about the omni
> is because way back a few years ago I got paranoid after I have some
> water issues.  A couple of these omni's I put too much tape and mastic
> on the bottom by the connector.  I wrapped it up too high and thick and
> covered the weep holes in the bottom of the omni.  So maybe I got
> condensation, or water in there if it could not leak out
>
> So if an omni like that got wet, will it dry and be ok?  What about a
> dipole on a grid?
>
> Brian
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Re: [WISPA] does water ruin antennas?

2008-08-19 Thread Jack Unger
Brian,

The answer is "it depends". If a little water got into an antenna and 
came back out without staying in there too long, the antenna could be 
fine. On the other hand, if a lot of water got in and stayed for a while 
then it could cause corrosion that would prevent the antenna from 
working properly anymore. The same should apply to the dipole on the grid.

jack


Brian Rohrbacher wrote:
> So, if I have a suspect antenna that might have got water in it, is it 
> ruined, or can it dry out, be resealed and work just fine?
>
>
> Specifically, I have a couple omni's from sites that seemed to be under 
> powered.  The culprit could have been the radio card, pigtail, cable or 
> omni, I don't know.  I replaced it all.  The reason I ask about the omni 
> is because way back a few years ago I got paranoid after I have some 
> water issues.  A couple of these omni's I put too much tape and mastic 
> on the bottom by the connector.  I wrapped it up too high and thick and 
> covered the weep holes in the bottom of the omni.  So maybe I got 
> condensation, or water in there if it could not leak out
>
> So if an omni like that got wet, will it dry and be ok?  What about a 
> dipole on a grid?
>
> Brian
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Re: [WISPA] does water ruin antennas?

2008-08-19 Thread Mac Dearman
Brian,

  It is my opinion that once the internal components of the antenna dry
thoroughly - - you can seal them and put them back into service. It will
depend on how long they were exposed to the water and the amount of
corrosion that may/may not be present as to whether they are actually usable
or suitable for service. I personally haven't ever been able to put one back
into service since they were exposed to water for long periods before they
actually died or got so bad that I noticed a signal level drop on the AP.

YMMV,
Mac



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> Subject: [WISPA] does water ruin antennas?
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> So, if I have a suspect antenna that might have got water in it, is it
> ruined, or can it dry out, be resealed and work just fine?
> 
> 
> Specifically, I have a couple omni's from sites that seemed to be under
> powered.  The culprit could have been the radio card, pigtail, cable or
> omni, I don't know.  I replaced it all.  The reason I ask about the
> omni
> is because way back a few years ago I got paranoid after I have some
> water issues.  A couple of these omni's I put too much tape and mastic
> on the bottom by the connector.  I wrapped it up too high and thick and
> covered the weep holes in the bottom of the omni.  So maybe I got
> condensation, or water in there if it could not leak out
> 
> So if an omni like that got wet, will it dry and be ok?  What about a
> dipole on a grid?
> 
> Brian
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