Re: [WISPA] dry copper solution

2010-04-05 Thread Marco Coelho
I've used cisco DSLAM and DSL Clients to do that (many other options exist). 3 miles is not far at all, you should be able to push at least 10M-20M symetrical depending on the quality of the copper. If you are getting the dry pair from your phone company, you may have problems with them. Many

Re: [WISPA] dry copper solution

2010-04-05 Thread Jeromie Reeves
VDSL units back to back should get you a pretty decent amount of bandwidth, VDSL2+ will use 2 pair vs 1 pair and gain even more. How are you getting the copper between sites? Qwest is a PITA and demands it all runs back to the CO, adding miles like crazy. On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 4:02 PM, Marco

Re: [WISPA] dry copper solution

2010-04-05 Thread Patrick Cole
At 3 miles, VDSL is not a good solution. That is a very long loop length. VDSL2 does not use 2 pairs. In fact, VDSL2 is designed to fall back to ADSL2+ modulation when going beyond the beneficial limits of VDSL (~ 2km). Most ethernet extenders also tap out around 2km. The only real option you

Re: [WISPA] dry copper solution

2010-04-05 Thread Jeromie Reeves
There are VDSL2+ setups that use 2 pair for bonding. Yes it can fall back to ADSL2. I have a install where its about 2.8mi and doing 5mbit each direction between a farmers house and his 2nd house/shop/barn. On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 7:01 PM, Patrick Cole z...@amused.net wrote: At 3 miles, VDSL is