RE: [WISPA] gas prices
JohnnyO, I believe that you were the first to make the suggestion that Marlon insulate himself from some liability. I agree. Duh We have the same view and you swipe at me... :) But, then again -- what are friends for? - Cliff -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JohnnyO Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 10:32 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] gas prices But then again - You're from Houma ! JohnnyO -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cliff Leboeuf Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 10:10 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] gas prices I have to also agree! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Blake Bowers Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 4:20 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] gas prices I would hesitate to call any attorney that advised a business Marlons size against incorporating Good. Too much protection there not to do it. - Original Message - From: Matt Liotta [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 3:57 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] gas prices You're kidding right? You have a good accountant and a good lawyer yet neither has strongly recommended you have some sort of liability protection? Insurance isn't enough; spend the couple of hundred dollars it takes to incorporate. -Matt Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: We've got a good accountant and a good lawyer. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] gas prices
Cliff, You mean JohnnyO has friends? That's an interesting concept for sure! :P Met one of your fine employees at MUM. Brent I think his name was. He represented you well. Respectfully, Rick Harnish President OnlyInternet Broadband Wireless, Inc. 260-827-2482 Office 260-307-4000 Cell 260-918-4340 VoIP www.oibw.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cliff Leboeuf Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 8:12 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] gas prices JohnnyO, I believe that you were the first to make the suggestion that Marlon insulate himself from some liability. I agree. Duh We have the same view and you swipe at me... :) But, then again -- what are friends for? - Cliff -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JohnnyO Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 10:32 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] gas prices But then again - You're from Houma ! JohnnyO -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cliff Leboeuf Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 10:10 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] gas prices I have to also agree! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Blake Bowers Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 4:20 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] gas prices I would hesitate to call any attorney that advised a business Marlons size against incorporating Good. Too much protection there not to do it. - Original Message - From: Matt Liotta [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 3:57 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] gas prices You're kidding right? You have a good accountant and a good lawyer yet neither has strongly recommended you have some sort of liability protection? Insurance isn't enough; spend the couple of hundred dollars it takes to incorporate. -Matt Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: We've got a good accountant and a good lawyer. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] gas prices
Please don't tarnish my reputation by accusing me of having friends ! ! ! ! ! ! ! :) JohnnyO -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Harnish Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 7:21 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] gas prices Cliff, You mean JohnnyO has friends? That's an interesting concept for sure! :P Met one of your fine employees at MUM. Brent I think his name was. He represented you well. Respectfully, Rick Harnish President OnlyInternet Broadband Wireless, Inc. 260-827-2482 Office 260-307-4000 Cell 260-918-4340 VoIP www.oibw.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cliff Leboeuf Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 8:12 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] gas prices JohnnyO, I believe that you were the first to make the suggestion that Marlon insulate himself from some liability. I agree. Duh We have the same view and you swipe at me... :) But, then again -- what are friends for? - Cliff -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JohnnyO Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 10:32 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] gas prices But then again - You're from Houma ! JohnnyO -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cliff Leboeuf Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 10:10 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] gas prices I have to also agree! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Blake Bowers Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 4:20 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] gas prices I would hesitate to call any attorney that advised a business Marlons size against incorporating Good. Too much protection there not to do it. - Original Message - From: Matt Liotta [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 3:57 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] gas prices You're kidding right? You have a good accountant and a good lawyer yet neither has strongly recommended you have some sort of liability protection? Insurance isn't enough; spend the couple of hundred dollars it takes to incorporate. -Matt Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: We've got a good accountant and a good lawyer. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] gas prices
Rick, Yea! At least that is what he calls me when he WANTS something! - Cliff -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Harnish Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 7:21 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] gas prices Cliff, You mean JohnnyO has friends? That's an interesting concept for sure! :P Met one of your fine employees at MUM. Brent I think his name was. He represented you well. Respectfully, Rick Harnish President OnlyInternet Broadband Wireless, Inc. 260-827-2482 Office 260-307-4000 Cell 260-918-4340 VoIP www.oibw.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cliff Leboeuf Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 8:12 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] gas prices JohnnyO, I believe that you were the first to make the suggestion that Marlon insulate himself from some liability. I agree. Duh We have the same view and you swipe at me... :) But, then again -- what are friends for? - Cliff -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JohnnyO Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 10:32 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] gas prices But then again - You're from Houma ! JohnnyO -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cliff Leboeuf Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 10:10 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] gas prices I have to also agree! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Blake Bowers Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 4:20 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] gas prices I would hesitate to call any attorney that advised a business Marlons size against incorporating Good. Too much protection there not to do it. - Original Message - From: Matt Liotta [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 3:57 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] gas prices You're kidding right? You have a good accountant and a good lawyer yet neither has strongly recommended you have some sort of liability protection? Insurance isn't enough; spend the couple of hundred dollars it takes to incorporate. -Matt Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: We've got a good accountant and a good lawyer. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] gas prices
I never called you a friend ! :)~ I can name 10 things I have called you though ! Cliff's nickname is Scratchy by the way ! JohnnyO -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cliff Leboeuf Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 7:50 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] gas prices Rick, Yea! At least that is what he calls me when he WANTS something! - Cliff -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Harnish Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 7:21 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] gas prices Cliff, You mean JohnnyO has friends? That's an interesting concept for sure! :P Met one of your fine employees at MUM. Brent I think his name was. He represented you well. Respectfully, Rick Harnish President OnlyInternet Broadband Wireless, Inc. 260-827-2482 Office 260-307-4000 Cell 260-918-4340 VoIP www.oibw.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cliff Leboeuf Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 8:12 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] gas prices JohnnyO, I believe that you were the first to make the suggestion that Marlon insulate himself from some liability. I agree. Duh We have the same view and you swipe at me... :) But, then again -- what are friends for? - Cliff -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JohnnyO Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 10:32 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] gas prices But then again - You're from Houma ! JohnnyO -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cliff Leboeuf Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 10:10 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] gas prices I have to also agree! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Blake Bowers Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 4:20 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] gas prices I would hesitate to call any attorney that advised a business Marlons size against incorporating Good. Too much protection there not to do it. - Original Message - From: Matt Liotta [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 3:57 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] gas prices You're kidding right? You have a good accountant and a good lawyer yet neither has strongly recommended you have some sort of liability protection? Insurance isn't enough; spend the couple of hundred dollars it takes to incorporate. -Matt Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: We've got a good accountant and a good lawyer. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] gas prices
JohnnyO you know that I got that nickname from your wife! :) Have you started scratching too!? I have some medicine I can share with you since you shared with me! When you going out of town again? - Cliff -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JohnnyO Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 8:26 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] gas prices I never called you a friend ! :)~ I can name 10 things I have called you though ! Cliff's nickname is Scratchy by the way ! JohnnyO -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cliff Leboeuf Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 7:50 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] gas prices Rick, Yea! At least that is what he calls me when he WANTS something! - Cliff -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Harnish Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 7:21 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] gas prices Cliff, You mean JohnnyO has friends? That's an interesting concept for sure! :P Met one of your fine employees at MUM. Brent I think his name was. He represented you well. Respectfully, Rick Harnish President OnlyInternet Broadband Wireless, Inc. 260-827-2482 Office 260-307-4000 Cell 260-918-4340 VoIP www.oibw.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cliff Leboeuf Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 8:12 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] gas prices JohnnyO, I believe that you were the first to make the suggestion that Marlon insulate himself from some liability. I agree. Duh We have the same view and you swipe at me... :) But, then again -- what are friends for? - Cliff -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JohnnyO Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 10:32 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] gas prices But then again - You're from Houma ! JohnnyO -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cliff Leboeuf Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 10:10 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] gas prices I have to also agree! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Blake Bowers Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 4:20 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] gas prices I would hesitate to call any attorney that advised a business Marlons size against incorporating Good. Too much protection there not to do it. - Original Message - From: Matt Liotta [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 3:57 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] gas prices You're kidding right? You have a good accountant and a good lawyer yet neither has strongly recommended you have some sort of liability protection? Insurance isn't enough; spend the couple of hundred dollars it takes to incorporate. -Matt Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: We've got a good accountant and a good lawyer. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] gas prices
Cliff - I'll have to check my calendar. I forget when it was your wife scheduled her next out of town trip *DOH* - They gonna spank us on this list if you don't stop this kinda nonsense :) JohnnyO -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cliff Leboeuf Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 8:39 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] gas prices JohnnyO you know that I got that nickname from your wife! :) Have you started scratching too!? I have some medicine I can share with you since you shared with me! When you going out of town again? - Cliff -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JohnnyO Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 8:26 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] gas prices I never called you a friend ! :)~ I can name 10 things I have called you though ! Cliff's nickname is Scratchy by the way ! JohnnyO -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cliff Leboeuf Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 7:50 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] gas prices Rick, Yea! At least that is what he calls me when he WANTS something! - Cliff -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Harnish Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 7:21 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] gas prices Cliff, You mean JohnnyO has friends? That's an interesting concept for sure! :P Met one of your fine employees at MUM. Brent I think his name was. He represented you well. Respectfully, Rick Harnish President OnlyInternet Broadband Wireless, Inc. 260-827-2482 Office 260-307-4000 Cell 260-918-4340 VoIP www.oibw.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cliff Leboeuf Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 8:12 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] gas prices JohnnyO, I believe that you were the first to make the suggestion that Marlon insulate himself from some liability. I agree. Duh We have the same view and you swipe at me... :) But, then again -- what are friends for? - Cliff -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JohnnyO Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 10:32 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] gas prices But then again - You're from Houma ! JohnnyO -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cliff Leboeuf Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 10:10 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] gas prices I have to also agree! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Blake Bowers Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 4:20 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] gas prices I would hesitate to call any attorney that advised a business Marlons size against incorporating Good. Too much protection there not to do it. - Original Message - From: Matt Liotta [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 3:57 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] gas prices You're kidding right? You have a good accountant and a good lawyer yet neither has strongly recommended you have some sort of liability protection? Insurance isn't enough; spend the couple of hundred dollars it takes to incorporate. -Matt Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: We've got a good accountant and a good lawyer. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo
RE: [WISPA] gas prices
Hey, it's Friday :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JohnnyO Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 9:41 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] gas prices Cliff - I'll have to check my calendar. I forget when it was your wife scheduled her next out of town trip *DOH* - They gonna spank us on this list if you don't stop this kinda nonsense :) JohnnyO -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cliff Leboeuf Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 8:39 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] gas prices JohnnyO you know that I got that nickname from your wife! :) Have you started scratching too!? I have some medicine I can share with you since you shared with me! When you going out of town again? - Cliff -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JohnnyO Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 8:26 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] gas prices I never called you a friend ! :)~ I can name 10 things I have called you though ! Cliff's nickname is Scratchy by the way ! JohnnyO -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cliff Leboeuf Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 7:50 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] gas prices Rick, Yea! At least that is what he calls me when he WANTS something! - Cliff -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Harnish Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 7:21 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] gas prices Cliff, You mean JohnnyO has friends? That's an interesting concept for sure! :P Met one of your fine employees at MUM. Brent I think his name was. He represented you well. Respectfully, Rick Harnish President OnlyInternet Broadband Wireless, Inc. 260-827-2482 Office 260-307-4000 Cell 260-918-4340 VoIP www.oibw.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cliff Leboeuf Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 8:12 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] gas prices JohnnyO, I believe that you were the first to make the suggestion that Marlon insulate himself from some liability. I agree. Duh We have the same view and you swipe at me... :) But, then again -- what are friends for? - Cliff -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JohnnyO Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 10:32 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] gas prices But then again - You're from Houma ! JohnnyO -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cliff Leboeuf Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 10:10 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] gas prices I have to also agree! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Blake Bowers Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 4:20 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] gas prices I would hesitate to call any attorney that advised a business Marlons size against incorporating Good. Too much protection there not to do it. - Original Message - From: Matt Liotta [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 3:57 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] gas prices You're kidding right? You have a good accountant and a good lawyer yet neither has strongly recommended you have some sort of liability protection? Insurance isn't enough; spend the couple of hundred dollars it takes to incorporate. -Matt Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: We've got a good accountant and a good lawyer. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http
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Rick, Thanks for the great tip! PS. Pending there are not any big ass rocks in the way that need breaking through :-) Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Rick Harnish [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 5:26 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] gas prices Tom, You can't forget the grounding rod, and the big ass Hammer to hammer it in. You don't need the big ass Hammer! Just pour a little water on the ground, push the rod in, pull it out, fill the hole with water, push it in again. Repeat this process until you get the rod in almost all the way in and hammer it the last few inches. Works like a charm. And you already have water bottles in stock :) I never would have believed it until I saw it done! The water softens the ground and works as a lubricant. Its really slick. Respectfully, Rick Harnish President OnlyInternet Broadband Wireless, Inc. 260-827-2482 Office 260-307-4000 Cell 260-918-4340 VoIP www.oibw.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
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Hey, leave my Taurus wagon alone. I would like to go back to an AWD Astro/Safari, but the cost of gas is the problem, but the height, the space and the AWD makes all the difference. the difference in mileage between the two is double. $25.00CDN and $45.00CDN for the same distance. Can't argue with the wife (Accounting Dept.) with those figures. :-D You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca office 905 349-2084 Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900 skype cajeptha Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: I thought of that too. But if I get an extra 5, even 10 mpg it still won't make up for the payment on the rig. I love these uses Taurus wagons. I've had two of them go 230,000 miles now with nothing major. Oh yeah, one got an engine at 220,000 or so but that was my fault for running it low on oil. Pick them up used with 75,000 to 100,000 all day long. Usually for less than $8k too. Cheap insurance, decent mileage, easy to get the ladder on etc. My only problem now is that I have too many towers up in the sticks and can't get to them without whacking the bottom of the car all of the time on the rocks. (I DO know that changing an oil pan in one runs $500!) I'm gonna have to find an suv for my next rig. Probably a Cherokee or Durango. Not sure yet. I want a QUIET rig this time. That's the worst thing about the Taurus around here. The roads are rough and the car is awful. laters, Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: George Rogato [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 6:22 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] gas prices I don't believe the gas prices will come back down to below 2.00 any time soon. So we're shopping for new high gas mileage vehicles. George Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: Hi All, Just got our $700 gas bill for last month. That's just MY driving. No employees. And I don't even drive an suv! I'm thinking of a $20 per install fuel surcharge. Kinda like what the concrete company did to me last year at this time. What are people that have large spread out networks doing? If we slow down on the installs it'll not be a big deal. But if it kicks into overdrive again in a month or so (pretty normal for us) this summer is gonna be ugly. thoughts? Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
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Subaru Outback Wagons - You can NOT beat them for rough country / good gas mileage / carrying capacity. They are AWD and 600k miles isn't unheard of. The clearance under them is unbelievable. They have High Output V4s or V6s - They are comfortable / quiet / economic /powerful and will go anywhere that Cherokee you're talking about will go Marlon :) JohnnyO -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carl A Jeptha Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 6:51 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] gas prices Hey, leave my Taurus wagon alone. I would like to go back to an AWD Astro/Safari, but the cost of gas is the problem, but the height, the space and the AWD makes all the difference. the difference in mileage between the two is double. $25.00CDN and $45.00CDN for the same distance. Can't argue with the wife (Accounting Dept.) with those figures. :-D You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca office 905 349-2084 Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900 skype cajeptha Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: I thought of that too. But if I get an extra 5, even 10 mpg it still won't make up for the payment on the rig. I love these uses Taurus wagons. I've had two of them go 230,000 miles now with nothing major. Oh yeah, one got an engine at 220,000 or so but that was my fault for running it low on oil. Pick them up used with 75,000 to 100,000 all day long. Usually for less than $8k too. Cheap insurance, decent mileage, easy to get the ladder on etc. My only problem now is that I have too many towers up in the sticks and can't get to them without whacking the bottom of the car all of the time on the rocks. (I DO know that changing an oil pan in one runs $500!) I'm gonna have to find an suv for my next rig. Probably a Cherokee or Durango. Not sure yet. I want a QUIET rig this time. That's the worst thing about the Taurus around here. The roads are rough and the car is awful. laters, Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: George Rogato [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 6:22 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] gas prices I don't believe the gas prices will come back down to below 2.00 any time soon. So we're shopping for new high gas mileage vehicles. George Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: Hi All, Just got our $700 gas bill for last month. That's just MY driving. No employees. And I don't even drive an suv! I'm thinking of a $20 per install fuel surcharge. Kinda like what the concrete company did to me last year at this time. What are people that have large spread out networks doing? If we slow down on the installs it'll not be a big deal. But if it kicks into overdrive again in a month or so (pretty normal for us) this summer is gonna be ugly. thoughts? Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
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I don't know guys... Whats more costly, GAS or TECHNICIAN's Time? Let expand that more What is the real cost of technician's time. Lost technician time is really lost revenue. That technican is required to generate revenues which are mutiples of his direct income/cost. To cover the various overheads of the company. The problem can't just be solved by hiring more techs, every tech needs to be managed, sales generated for him, etc. A trip to DC and Back from offices. 1.5 hours (60 miles round trip) Tech time cost @ $20 per hour = $30.($15 per hour + factoring in Taxes, Benefits, Paid Holidays and such) Gas Cost @ 10 miles per gallon, @ $3 per gallon = $18. So in conclusion, technician time is almost twice as costly as gas. So the big question is, whats required to optimize a technician's time? How much more efficiency can be acheived by being more organized? What allows better organization? Do you buy the 8 mpg commercial size VAN to gain more room, or the smaller 20 mpg Station wagon / Family VAN ? I chose the Family VAN 5 years ago, and bought two of them. How much space do you really need? Well I pay the consequences daily. I am confident that I am loosing because of that decission. There is just not enough room in that VAN. My techs spend more time cleaning their Vans than they do doing installs, and they are still Pig Steyes. I NEED A BIGGER VAN! Or I need a more organized way of using it. I started to make a list of all the components that we needed in the VAN, the list was getting so large, I ran out of paper. Is it management or space? Those that support the idea that a smaller vehichle is acceptable, I'd be interested in hearing what you carry with you, and what product you chose to do with out. I just haven't found a way to make it all fit. Get answers at this years ISPCON. #A8 Truck Roll Tricks: Installations that Maximize Time and Money Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Carl A Jeptha [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 7:51 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] gas prices Hey, leave my Taurus wagon alone. I would like to go back to an AWD Astro/Safari, but the cost of gas is the problem, but the height, the space and the AWD makes all the difference. the difference in mileage between the two is double. $25.00CDN and $45.00CDN for the same distance. Can't argue with the wife (Accounting Dept.) with those figures. :-D You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca office 905 349-2084 Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900 skype cajeptha Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: I thought of that too. But if I get an extra 5, even 10 mpg it still won't make up for the payment on the rig. I love these uses Taurus wagons. I've had two of them go 230,000 miles now with nothing major. Oh yeah, one got an engine at 220,000 or so but that was my fault for running it low on oil. Pick them up used with 75,000 to 100,000 all day long. Usually for less than $8k too. Cheap insurance, decent mileage, easy to get the ladder on etc. My only problem now is that I have too many towers up in the sticks and can't get to them without whacking the bottom of the car all of the time on the rocks. (I DO know that changing an oil pan in one runs $500!) I'm gonna have to find an suv for my next rig. Probably a Cherokee or Durango. Not sure yet. I want a QUIET rig this time. That's the worst thing about the Taurus around here. The roads are rough and the car is awful. laters, Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: George Rogato [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 6:22 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] gas prices I don't believe the gas prices will come back down to below 2.00 any time soon. So we're shopping for new high gas mileage vehicles. George Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: Hi All, Just got our $700 gas bill for last month. That's just MY driving. No employees. And I don't even drive an suv! I'm thinking of a $20 per install fuel surcharge. Kinda like what the concrete company did to me last year at this time. What are people that have large spread out networks doing? If we slow down on the installs it'll not be a big deal. But if it kicks into overdrive again in a month or so (pretty normal for us) this summer is gonna be ugly. thoughts? Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own
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Tom, We recently just upgraded our entire fleet... purchased brand new Chevy 4x4 trucks with automatic, air, cruise. We then installed 3 tool boxes in each truck bed and a single ladder rack. The trucks get 15mpg and are great in the snow. We also now have a fixed expense on the trucks, having them under warranty and not having any down-time due to vehicles being in the shop. Each truck carries the following items: 26ft extension ladder 12ft ladder socket set cordless drill, regular hammer drill power inverter lag screws, J-mounts, staple gun, silicone, etc. (2) of every kind of radio (900mhz, 2.4ghz, 5.3ghz, 5.8ghz) box of cable tripod and a couple 10ft poles battery pack for signal tests laptop with GPS That's about it. We also have a backup Chevy Astro AWD van that we used to use... and everything fit perfectly inside that as well. Travis Microserv Tom DeReggi wrote: I don't know guys... Whats more costly, GAS or TECHNICIAN's Time? Let expand that more What is the real cost of technician's time. Lost technician time is really lost revenue. That technican is required to generate revenues which are mutiples of his direct income/cost. To cover the various overheads of the company. The problem can't just be solved by hiring more techs, every tech needs to be managed, sales generated for him, etc. A trip to DC and Back from offices. 1.5 hours (60 miles round trip) Tech time cost @ $20 per hour = $30.($15 per hour + factoring in Taxes, Benefits, Paid Holidays and such) Gas Cost @ 10 miles per gallon, @ $3 per gallon = $18. So in conclusion, technician time is almost twice as costly as gas. So the big question is, whats required to optimize a technician's time? How much more efficiency can be acheived by being more organized? What allows better organization? Do you buy the 8 mpg commercial size VAN to gain more room, or the smaller 20 mpg Station wagon / Family VAN ? I chose the Family VAN 5 years ago, and bought two of them. How much space do you really need? Well I pay the consequences daily. I am confident that I am loosing because of that decission. There is just not enough room in that VAN. My techs spend more time cleaning their Vans than they do doing installs, and they are still Pig Steyes. I NEED A BIGGER VAN! Or I need a more organized way of using it. I started to make a list of all the components that we needed in the VAN, the list was getting so large, I ran out of paper. Is it management or space? Those that support the idea that a smaller vehichle is acceptable, I'd be interested in hearing what you carry with you, and what product you chose to do with out. I just haven't found a way to make it all fit. Get answers at this years ISPCON. #A8 Truck Roll Tricks: Installations that Maximize Time and Money Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Carl A Jeptha [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 7:51 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] gas prices Hey, leave my Taurus wagon alone. I would like to go back to an AWD Astro/Safari, but the cost of gas is the problem, but the height, the space and the AWD makes all the difference. the difference in mileage between the two is double. $25.00CDN and $45.00CDN for the same distance. Can't argue with the wife (Accounting Dept.) with those figures. :-D You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca office 905 349-2084 Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900 skype cajeptha Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: I thought of that too. But if I get an extra 5, even 10 mpg it still won't make up for the payment on the rig. I love these uses Taurus wagons. I've had two of them go 230,000 miles now with nothing major. Oh yeah, one got an engine at 220,000 or so but that was my fault for running it low on oil. Pick them up used with 75,000 to 100,000 all day long. Usually for less than $8k too. Cheap insurance, decent mileage, easy to get the ladder on etc. My only problem now is that I have too many towers up in the sticks and can't get to them without whacking the bottom of the car all of the time on the rocks. (I DO know that changing an oil pan in one runs $500!) I'm gonna have to find an suv for my next rig. Probably a Cherokee or Durango. Not sure yet. I want a QUIET rig this time. That's the worst thing about the Taurus around here. The roads are rough and the car is awful. laters, Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: George Rogato [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 6:22 AM Subject: Re
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Jeez, I carry way more than that. just a few quick things I am thinking of, hard hat harness tree nippers hand tree saw dish arm mounts ground rods grinder ground wire extension cord routers wireless routers surge power strips ratcheting end wrenches 1/4 and 3/8 socket sets dust pan and brush key hole saw 1 1/4 and 1 1/2 10 foot masts dremel vice grips (2 sizes) channel locks crescent wrench (2 sizes) regular drill index 18 inch drill bit (2 sizes) site survey pole 200 foot cat 5 on spool for site surveys little giant ladder bungee straps (6) 300 feet rope mastic super 33+ zip ties and there is a lot more too Travis Johnson wrote: I dunno, I carry way more, but those are a few things I thought of. Tom, We recently just upgraded our entire fleet... purchased brand new Chevy 4x4 trucks with automatic, air, cruise. We then installed 3 tool boxes in each truck bed and a single ladder rack. The trucks get 15mpg and are great in the snow. We also now have a fixed expense on the trucks, having them under warranty and not having any down-time due to vehicles being in the shop. Each truck carries the following items: 26ft extension ladder 12ft ladder socket set cordless drill, regular hammer drill power inverter lag screws, J-mounts, staple gun, silicone, etc. (2) of every kind of radio (900mhz, 2.4ghz, 5.3ghz, 5.8ghz) box of cable tripod and a couple 10ft poles battery pack for signal tests laptop with GPS That's about it. We also have a backup Chevy Astro AWD van that we used to use... and everything fit perfectly inside that as well. Travis Microserv Tom DeReggi wrote: I don't know guys... Whats more costly, GAS or TECHNICIAN's Time? Let expand that more What is the real cost of technician's time. Lost technician time is really lost revenue. That technican is required to generate revenues which are mutiples of his direct income/cost. To cover the various overheads of the company. The problem can't just be solved by hiring more techs, every tech needs to be managed, sales generated for him, etc. A trip to DC and Back from offices. 1.5 hours (60 miles round trip) Tech time cost @ $20 per hour = $30.($15 per hour + factoring in Taxes, Benefits, Paid Holidays and such) Gas Cost @ 10 miles per gallon, @ $3 per gallon = $18. So in conclusion, technician time is almost twice as costly as gas. So the big question is, whats required to optimize a technician's time? How much more efficiency can be acheived by being more organized? What allows better organization? Do you buy the 8 mpg commercial size VAN to gain more room, or the smaller 20 mpg Station wagon / Family VAN ? I chose the Family VAN 5 years ago, and bought two of them. How much space do you really need? Well I pay the consequences daily. I am confident that I am loosing because of that decission. There is just not enough room in that VAN. My techs spend more time cleaning their Vans than they do doing installs, and they are still Pig Steyes. I NEED A BIGGER VAN! Or I need a more organized way of using it. I started to make a list of all the components that we needed in the VAN, the list was getting so large, I ran out of paper. Is it management or space? Those that support the idea that a smaller vehichle is acceptable, I'd be interested in hearing what you carry with you, and what product you chose to do with out. I just haven't found a way to make it all fit. Get answers at this years ISPCON. #A8 Truck Roll Tricks: Installations that Maximize Time and Money Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Carl A Jeptha [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 7:51 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] gas prices Hey, leave my Taurus wagon alone. I would like to go back to an AWD Astro/Safari, but the cost of gas is the problem, but the height, the space and the AWD makes all the difference. the difference in mileage between the two is double. $25.00CDN and $45.00CDN for the same distance. Can't argue with the wife (Accounting Dept.) with those figures. :-D You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca office 905 349-2084 Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900 skype cajeptha Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: I thought of that too. But if I get an extra 5, even 10 mpg it still won't make up for the payment on the rig. I love these uses Taurus wagons. I've had two of them go 230,000 miles now with nothing major. Oh yeah, one got an engine at 220,000 or so but that was my fault for running it low on oil. Pick them up used with 75,000 to 100,000 all day long. Usually for less than $8k too. Cheap insurance, decent mileage, easy to get the ladder on etc. My only problem now is that I have too many towers up in the sticks and can't get to them without whacking the bottom of the car all of the time on the rocks. (I DO know that changing an oil pan
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We've got a good accountant and a good lawyer. Being a corp has it's down sides too. We're probably not far from it though. When the time is right we'll jump on the band wagon. When you sell, if you are a corp, you take a huge hit. As for hiding behind a corporate veil, what's the exposure? If you really screw up they go after you personally anyhow. And we're insured quite well. Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Peter R. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 11:23 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] gas prices You run your business as a sole proprietor? That means you have no asset protection - and you can only take advantage of about 25% of the tax code. S Corp or LLC allows you both asset protection and tax breaks. Marlon, spend the $1000 to have a corporate attorney get you incorporated and get your assets allocated correctly. One lawsuit and you lose everything - personal and business. Regards, Peter Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: We're a sole proprietor so all of the gas runs under the same bill. I filled the boat up once. Melissa drives a Suburban to work (4 miles or so) and we usually take that on out of town trips (much safer than the car) and I did fill up two Jerry cans for the dirt bikes. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ . -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
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I've looked at them. Two problems. Lack of space for tool boxes, antennas etc. They are too short to really hold a long extension ladder. The other issue is the dang resale value. I could buy two Jeeps for the cost of anything Subaru! hehehehehe I'll check 'em out some more. I did look at them pretty seriously a few years back. Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: JohnnyO [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 7:53 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] gas prices Subaru Outback Wagons - You can NOT beat them for rough country / good gas mileage / carrying capacity. They are AWD and 600k miles isn't unheard of. The clearance under them is unbelievable. They have High Output V4s or V6s - They are comfortable / quiet / economic /powerful and will go anywhere that Cherokee you're talking about will go Marlon :) JohnnyO -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carl A Jeptha Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 6:51 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] gas prices Hey, leave my Taurus wagon alone. I would like to go back to an AWD Astro/Safari, but the cost of gas is the problem, but the height, the space and the AWD makes all the difference. the difference in mileage between the two is double. $25.00CDN and $45.00CDN for the same distance. Can't argue with the wife (Accounting Dept.) with those figures. :-D You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca office 905 349-2084 Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900 skype cajeptha Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: I thought of that too. But if I get an extra 5, even 10 mpg it still won't make up for the payment on the rig. I love these uses Taurus wagons. I've had two of them go 230,000 miles now with nothing major. Oh yeah, one got an engine at 220,000 or so but that was my fault for running it low on oil. Pick them up used with 75,000 to 100,000 all day long. Usually for less than $8k too. Cheap insurance, decent mileage, easy to get the ladder on etc. My only problem now is that I have too many towers up in the sticks and can't get to them without whacking the bottom of the car all of the time on the rocks. (I DO know that changing an oil pan in one runs $500!) I'm gonna have to find an suv for my next rig. Probably a Cherokee or Durango. Not sure yet. I want a QUIET rig this time. That's the worst thing about the Taurus around here. The roads are rough and the car is awful. laters, Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: George Rogato [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 6:22 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] gas prices I don't believe the gas prices will come back down to below 2.00 any time soon. So we're shopping for new high gas mileage vehicles. George Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: Hi All, Just got our $700 gas bill for last month. That's just MY driving. No employees. And I don't even drive an suv! I'm thinking of a $20 per install fuel surcharge. Kinda like what the concrete company did to me last year at this time. What are people that have large spread out networks doing? If we slow down on the installs it'll not be a big deal. But if it kicks into overdrive again in a month or so (pretty normal for us) this summer is gonna be ugly. thoughts? Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
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You're kidding right? You have a good accountant and a good lawyer yet neither has strongly recommended you have some sort of liability protection? Insurance isn't enough; spend the couple of hundred dollars it takes to incorporate. -Matt Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: We've got a good accountant and a good lawyer. Being a corp has it's down sides too. We're probably not far from it though. When the time is right we'll jump on the band wagon. When you sell, if you are a corp, you take a huge hit. As for hiding behind a corporate veil, what's the exposure? If you really screw up they go after you personally anyhow. And we're insured quite well. Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Peter R. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 11:23 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] gas prices You run your business as a sole proprietor? That means you have no asset protection - and you can only take advantage of about 25% of the tax code. S Corp or LLC allows you both asset protection and tax breaks. Marlon, spend the $1000 to have a corporate attorney get you incorporated and get your assets allocated correctly. One lawsuit and you lose everything - personal and business. Regards, Peter Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: We're a sole proprietor so all of the gas runs under the same bill. I filled the boat up once. Melissa drives a Suburban to work (4 miles or so) and we usually take that on out of town trips (much safer than the car) and I did fill up two Jerry cans for the dirt bikes. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ . -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
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of the guys carry a case of water bottles or small cooler, so don't need to stop every hour for a drink. laptop with GPS Along with Wifi Card, Serial Cable, Power adapter, Ethernet cable Cross/straight, Digital Camera, Binoculars, Cell Phone, Local MAP book, and Paper Organizers for job pre-printed maps and directions, work orders, notes, and invoices. That's about it. We also have a backup Chevy Astro AWD van that we used to use... and everything fit perfectly inside that as well. I finally learned to create my own work truck. The techs always left theirs to disorganized for me to find anything. But since I rarely ever go i nthe field, I use my work VAN as the back up, if one of the tech VANs need maintenance. But that allows me to take control and do a repair quickly if techs aren't around. surge power strips We also carry two UPS types, 1 wall mount strip type ($50), sometimes 1 floor type 500VA w/Voltage regulation ($100). dust pan and brush We also carry box of disposable booties for working inside homes, when its muddy out. Also if got old used VANs like us, can't forget basic VAN maintenance stuff... Oil, Transmission Fluid, Rag, Anti-freeze/water, paper towel, etc. My conclusion is... If you seperate residential versus Commercial MTU, its easy. Less variation and needs for cable spools, ladders, and mounting. But when you need to be prepared to do both, the inventory starts to grow quick. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 1:09 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] gas prices Tom, We recently just upgraded our entire fleet... purchased brand new Chevy 4x4 trucks with automatic, air, cruise. We then installed 3 tool boxes in each truck bed and a single ladder rack. The trucks get 15mpg and are great in the snow. We also now have a fixed expense on the trucks, having them under warranty and not having any down-time due to vehicles being in the shop. Each truck carries the following items: 26ft extension ladder 12ft ladder socket set cordless drill, regular hammer drill power inverter lag screws, J-mounts, staple gun, silicone, etc. (2) of every kind of radio (900mhz, 2.4ghz, 5.3ghz, 5.8ghz) box of cable tripod and a couple 10ft poles battery pack for signal tests laptop with GPS That's about it. We also have a backup Chevy Astro AWD van that we used to use... and everything fit perfectly inside that as well. Travis Microserv Tom DeReggi wrote: I don't know guys... Whats more costly, GAS or TECHNICIAN's Time? Let expand that more What is the real cost of technician's time. Lost technician time is really lost revenue. That technican is required to generate revenues which are mutiples of his direct income/cost. To cover the various overheads of the company. The problem can't just be solved by hiring more techs, every tech needs to be managed, sales generated for him, etc. A trip to DC and Back from offices. 1.5 hours (60 miles round trip) Tech time cost @ $20 per hour = $30.($15 per hour + factoring in Taxes, Benefits, Paid Holidays and such) Gas Cost @ 10 miles per gallon, @ $3 per gallon = $18. So in conclusion, technician time is almost twice as costly as gas. So the big question is, whats required to optimize a technician's time? How much more efficiency can be acheived by being more organized? What allows better organization? Do you buy the 8 mpg commercial size VAN to gain more room, or the smaller 20 mpg Station wagon / Family VAN ? I chose the Family VAN 5 years ago, and bought two of them. How much space do you really need? Well I pay the consequences daily. I am confident that I am loosing because of that decission. There is just not enough room in that VAN. My techs spend more time cleaning their Vans than they do doing installs, and they are still Pig Steyes. I NEED A BIGGER VAN! Or I need a more organized way of using it. I started to make a list of all the components that we needed in the VAN, the list was getting so large, I ran out of paper. Is it management or space? Those that support the idea that a smaller vehichle is acceptable, I'd be interested in hearing what you carry with you, and what product you chose to do with out. I just haven't found a way to make it all fit. Get answers at this years ISPCON. #A8 Truck Roll Tricks: Installations that Maximize Time and Money Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Carl A Jeptha [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 7:51 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] gas prices Hey, leave my Taurus wagon alone. I would like to go back to an AWD Astro/Safari, but the cost of gas is the problem, but the height, the space and the AWD makes all the difference. the difference in mileage
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I would hesitate to call any attorney that advised a business Marlons size against incorporating Good. Too much protection there not to do it. - Original Message - From: Matt Liotta [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 3:57 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] gas prices You're kidding right? You have a good accountant and a good lawyer yet neither has strongly recommended you have some sort of liability protection? Insurance isn't enough; spend the couple of hundred dollars it takes to incorporate. -Matt Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: We've got a good accountant and a good lawyer. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
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Tom, You can't forget the grounding rod, and the big ass Hammer to hammer it in. You don't need the big ass Hammer! Just pour a little water on the ground, push the rod in, pull it out, fill the hole with water, push it in again. Repeat this process until you get the rod in almost all the way in and hammer it the last few inches. Works like a charm. And you already have water bottles in stock :) I never would have believed it until I saw it done! The water softens the ground and works as a lubricant. Its really slick. Respectfully, Rick Harnish President OnlyInternet Broadband Wireless, Inc. 260-827-2482 Office 260-307-4000 Cell 260-918-4340 VoIP www.oibw.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
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Yup - I can install an 8ft Grounding Rod in about 60seconds from start to finish without using a hammer. Can be a little workout at times but tis the easiest way I know how. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Harnish Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 4:27 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] gas prices Tom, You can't forget the grounding rod, and the big ass Hammer to hammer it in. You don't need the big ass Hammer! Just pour a little water on the ground, push the rod in, pull it out, fill the hole with water, push it in again. Repeat this process until you get the rod in almost all the way in and hammer it the last few inches. Works like a charm. And you already have water bottles in stock :) I never would have believed it until I saw it done! The water softens the ground and works as a lubricant. Its really slick. Respectfully, Rick Harnish President OnlyInternet Broadband Wireless, Inc. 260-827-2482 Office 260-307-4000 Cell 260-918-4340 VoIP www.oibw.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
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We use a rotary hammer drill with a special bit that is for driving grounding rods and man does it make them slide right in like a hot knife through butter. It will even drive them through small rocks. Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky Your Hometown Broadband Provider http://www.KyWiFi.com Call Us Today: 859.274.4033 === $39.99 DSL High Speed Internet $14.99 Home Phone Service - No Phone Line Required for DSL - FREE Activation Equipment - Affordable Upfront Pricing - Locally Owned Operated - We Also Service Most Rural Areas === - Original Message - From: JohnnyO [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 5:59 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] gas prices Yup - I can install an 8ft Grounding Rod in about 60seconds from start to finish without using a hammer. Can be a little workout at times but tis the easiest way I know how. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Harnish Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 4:27 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] gas prices Tom, You can't forget the grounding rod, and the big ass Hammer to hammer it in. You don't need the big ass Hammer! Just pour a little water on the ground, push the rod in, pull it out, fill the hole with water, push it in again. Repeat this process until you get the rod in almost all the way in and hammer it the last few inches. Works like a charm. And you already have water bottles in stock :) I never would have believed it until I saw it done! The water softens the ground and works as a lubricant. Its really slick. Respectfully, Rick Harnish President OnlyInternet Broadband Wireless, Inc. 260-827-2482 Office 260-307-4000 Cell 260-918-4340 VoIP www.oibw.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
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Yeah, your in that nice sandy soil up north. Come on down to Centerville. My yard is harder that the sidewalk in the summer. Put some water on the ground in the at it would make steam, not mud. That's why pottery is made of clay, and boy do we have some. Actually, I will have to try that, but I am pretty sure around here every uses a fence post driver or the hammer drill type attachment. Scott Reed Owner NewWays Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration www.nwwnet.net -- Original Message --- From: Rick Harnish [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thu, 11 May 2006 17:26:54 -0400 Subject: RE: [WISPA] gas prices Tom, You can't forget the grounding rod, and the big ass Hammer to hammer it in. You don't need the big ass Hammer! Just pour a little water on the ground, push the rod in, pull it out, fill the hole with water, push it in again. Repeat this process until you get the rod in almost all the way in and hammer it the last few inches. Works like a charm. And you already have water bottles in stock :) I never would have believed it until I saw it done! The water softens the ground and works as a lubricant. Its really slick. Respectfully, Rick Harnish President OnlyInternet Broadband Wireless, Inc. 260-827-2482 Office 260-307-4000 Cell 260-918-4340 VoIP www.oibw.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- End of Original Message --- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
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Scott, I dont have much sand here, you have to go north of Fort Wayne to get into that. We have a lot of clay here as well. Rick Harnish From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Reed Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 8:57 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] gas prices Yeah, your in that nice sandy soil up north. Come on down to Centerville. My yard is harder that the sidewalk in the summer. Put some water on the ground in the at it would make steam, not mud. That's why pottery is made of clay, and boy do we have some. Actually, I will have to try that, but I am pretty sure around here every uses a fence post driver or the hammer drill type attachment. Scott Reed Owner NewWays Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration www.nwwnet.net -- Original Message --- From: Rick Harnish [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thu, 11 May 2006 17:26:54 -0400 Subject: RE: [WISPA] gas prices Tom, You can't forget the grounding rod, and the big ass Hammer to hammer it in. You don't need the big ass Hammer! Just pour a little water on the ground, push the rod in, pull it out, fill the hole with water, push it in again. Repeat this process until you get the rod in almost all the way in and hammer it the last few inches. Works like a charm. And you already have water bottles in stock :) I never would have believed it until I saw it done! The water softens the ground and works as a lubricant. Its really slick. Respectfully, Rick Harnish President OnlyInternet Broadband Wireless, Inc. 260-827-2482 Office 260-307-4000 Cell 260-918-4340 VoIP www.oibw.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- End of Original Message --- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
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I have to also agree! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Blake Bowers Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 4:20 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] gas prices I would hesitate to call any attorney that advised a business Marlons size against incorporating Good. Too much protection there not to do it. - Original Message - From: Matt Liotta [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 3:57 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] gas prices You're kidding right? You have a good accountant and a good lawyer yet neither has strongly recommended you have some sort of liability protection? Insurance isn't enough; spend the couple of hundred dollars it takes to incorporate. -Matt Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: We've got a good accountant and a good lawyer. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
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But then again - You're from Houma ! JohnnyO -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cliff Leboeuf Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 10:10 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] gas prices I have to also agree! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Blake Bowers Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 4:20 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] gas prices I would hesitate to call any attorney that advised a business Marlons size against incorporating Good. Too much protection there not to do it. - Original Message - From: Matt Liotta [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 3:57 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] gas prices You're kidding right? You have a good accountant and a good lawyer yet neither has strongly recommended you have some sort of liability protection? Insurance isn't enough; spend the couple of hundred dollars it takes to incorporate. -Matt Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: We've got a good accountant and a good lawyer. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
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I don't believe the gas prices will come back down to below 2.00 any time soon. So we're shopping for new high gas mileage vehicles. George Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: Hi All, Just got our $700 gas bill for last month. That's just MY driving. No employees. And I don't even drive an suv! I'm thinking of a $20 per install fuel surcharge. Kinda like what the concrete company did to me last year at this time. What are people that have large spread out networks doing? If we slow down on the installs it'll not be a big deal. But if it kicks into overdrive again in a month or so (pretty normal for us) this summer is gonna be ugly. thoughts? Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
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I thought of that too. But if I get an extra 5, even 10 mpg it still won't make up for the payment on the rig. I love these uses Taurus wagons. I've had two of them go 230,000 miles now with nothing major. Oh yeah, one got an engine at 220,000 or so but that was my fault for running it low on oil. Pick them up used with 75,000 to 100,000 all day long. Usually for less than $8k too. Cheap insurance, decent mileage, easy to get the ladder on etc. My only problem now is that I have too many towers up in the sticks and can't get to them without whacking the bottom of the car all of the time on the rocks. (I DO know that changing an oil pan in one runs $500!) I'm gonna have to find an suv for my next rig. Probably a Cherokee or Durango. Not sure yet. I want a QUIET rig this time. That's the worst thing about the Taurus around here. The roads are rough and the car is awful. laters, Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: George Rogato [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 6:22 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] gas prices I don't believe the gas prices will come back down to below 2.00 any time soon. So we're shopping for new high gas mileage vehicles. George Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: Hi All, Just got our $700 gas bill for last month. That's just MY driving. No employees. And I don't even drive an suv! I'm thinking of a $20 per install fuel surcharge. Kinda like what the concrete company did to me last year at this time. What are people that have large spread out networks doing? If we slow down on the installs it'll not be a big deal. But if it kicks into overdrive again in a month or so (pretty normal for us) this summer is gonna be ugly. thoughts? Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
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Well, lets see. Put the ladder on top of the Taurus and mileage drops to about 20. We're a sole proprietor so all of the gas runs under the same bill. I filled the boat up once. Melissa drives a Suburban to work (4 miles or so) and we usually take that on out of town trips (much safer than the car) and I did fill up two Jerry cans for the dirt bikes. So there's probably $200 to $250 that's not from my work. Our gas prices here in town are usually $.20 or more above what the national average is, and sometimes that much more than many of the towns around us too. I'm half tempted to get a gas only credit card and start getting gas at whatever cheap town I'm in today. But yeah, I put in over 30,000 miles per year just for work related driving. Not counting the times I use the suburban, we don't write off the mileage on it. Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 6:50 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] gas prices Marlon, Are you really driving THAT much? I have 5 full-time installers (each in their own vehicle) and our network covers 200 miles N-S and 150 E-W and our gas bill was only $2,200 this last month. We did 104 installs. :) Travis Microserv Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: Hi All, Just got our $700 gas bill for last month. That's just MY driving. No employees. And I don't even drive an suv! I'm thinking of a $20 per install fuel surcharge. Kinda like what the concrete company did to me last year at this time. What are people that have large spread out networks doing? If we slow down on the installs it'll not be a big deal. But if it kicks into overdrive again in a month or so (pretty normal for us) this summer is gonna be ugly. thoughts? Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
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You run your business as a sole proprietor? That means you have no asset protection - and you can only take advantage of about 25% of the tax code. S Corp or LLC allows you both asset protection and tax breaks. Marlon, spend the $1000 to have a corporate attorney get you incorporated and get your assets allocated correctly. One lawsuit and you lose everything - personal and business. Regards, Peter Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: We're a sole proprietor so all of the gas runs under the same bill. I filled the boat up once. Melissa drives a Suburban to work (4 miles or so) and we usually take that on out of town trips (much safer than the car) and I did fill up two Jerry cans for the dirt bikes. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
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yeah, amen to that. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter R. Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 2:24 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] gas prices You run your business as a sole proprietor? That means you have no asset protection - and you can only take advantage of about 25% of the tax code. S Corp or LLC allows you both asset protection and tax breaks. Marlon, spend the $1000 to have a corporate attorney get you incorporated and get your assets allocated correctly. One lawsuit and you lose everything - personal and business. Regards, Peter Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: We're a sole proprietor so all of the gas runs under the same bill. I filled the boat up once. Melissa drives a Suburban to work (4 miles or so) and we usually take that on out of town trips (much safer than the car) and I did fill up two Jerry cans for the dirt bikes. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
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We just raised our install prices from $150 to $250 for each install. People who pay for six months in advance get a free month and $50 off of the install. Gas prices are part of it, but it was a combination of higher leasing rates (due to increasing interest rates), increase in the price of Tranzeo radios ($5 to $10 across the board) and increased shipping costs. With the changes in prices, now I'm back to an immediate ROI, rather than a 2 month ROI and carrying a lease payment for each new radio. We've been doing 50-70 installs a month for the last six months so it won't hurt to slack off a little bit during the summer so that we can build up a cash reserve. Crazy thing is that the schedule is still filling up even with the increased install charges. I think its going to be another crazy summer. Matt Larsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: Hi All, Just got our $700 gas bill for last month. That's just MY driving. No employees. And I don't even drive an suv! I'm thinking of a $20 per install fuel surcharge. Kinda like what the concrete company did to me last year at this time. What are people that have large spread out networks doing? If we slow down on the installs it'll not be a big deal. But if it kicks into overdrive again in a month or so (pretty normal for us) this summer is gonna be ugly. thoughts? Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
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Marlon, Are you really driving THAT much? I have 5 full-time installers (each in their own vehicle) and our network covers 200 miles N-S and 150 E-W and our gas bill was only $2,200 this last month. We did 104 installs. :) Travis Microserv Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: Hi All, Just got our $700 gas bill for last month. That's just MY driving. No employees. And I don't even drive an suv! I'm thinking of a $20 per install fuel surcharge. Kinda like what the concrete company did to me last year at this time. What are people that have large spread out networks doing? If we slow down on the installs it'll not be a big deal. But if it kicks into overdrive again in a month or so (pretty normal for us) this summer is gonna be ugly. thoughts? Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Gas Prices
Living in the Ottawa, Canada region, we just hit $1.10 per LITRE. For our friends in the U.S. - there are about 4 litres in one gallon. Linda Linda Pond President Customer Connects Bridging Technology Relationships www.customerconnects.com 613-253-0240 (w) 613-291-2884 (c) - Original Message - From: Jeromie Reeves [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 7:11 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Gas Prices We hit 2.60/gal this week. I heard some places are over 3.00/gal. This is insane. Just 3 more years of it, anyone think they can make it at 5/gal? Time for a air powered car. http://www.theaircar.com/ or maybe just a bicycle Jeromie Brian Rohrbacher wrote: Is anyone bumping up their install or monthly fees to offset high gas prices? Gas went up over 60 cents this week. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
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We were about to. But the gear I use has just come down so, for the first time, I'm not lowering my install prices. We're also getting more aggressive about charging people for service calls not caused by my gear (the radio, even when they own it falls under my gear). Mainly though, we're just sucking up $700 per month in fuel costs. Hoping they come down again soon. Or we will have to put a trip charge in place. laters, Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Brian Rohrbacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 4:00 PM Subject: [WISPA] Gas Prices Is anyone bumping up their install or monthly fees to offset high gas prices? Gas went up over 60 cents this week. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
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We hit 2.60/gal this week. I heard some places are over 3.00/gal. This is insane. Just 3 more years of it, anyone think they can make it at 5/gal? Time for a air powered car. http://www.theaircar.com/ or maybe just a bicycle Jeromie Brian Rohrbacher wrote: Is anyone bumping up their install or monthly fees to offset high gas prices? Gas went up over 60 cents this week. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
