Re: [WISPA] monitoring product (was Re: Ubiquiti Beta 5.2.4 Released)
I dont' graph temp/humidity at my towers. I do graph it for my detatched garage and datacenter though. (The most important locations) I have a little atom PC running centos, 1-wire temp/humidity sensor from www.hobby-boards.com, owfs, mrtg, apache. It also has rsync and a 2tb drive for offsite backup of my photos. It is connected with fiber to my home for the offsite backup access. http://www.f64.nu/garage/temp_2.html http://www.f64.nu/garage/temp_3.html On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 12:50:45PM -0700, Ryan Spott wrote: Must be nice to be so close to a NOAA weather station.. and to have consistant weather from one mile-post to the next. I can tell you that out here, 200' elevation 4500' elevation 4 miles away. :) And I do graph all of that. :) ryan On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 9:08 PM, Jayson Baker jay...@spectrasurf.com wrote: We do this now. From NOAA weather stations. All our backhaul links are polled every 60 seconds for just about everything they spit out (i.e. bits in/out, signals, errors, temperature, etc.) as well as NOAA weather info (temp, humidity, pressure, etc.) for the nearest station. It's all available on a graph to us through extranet. Works very well. On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 8:07 AM, Matt Liotta mlio...@r337.com wrote: This makes me think about a cool product someone needs to produce. Some sort of device that could be deployed at a wireless colocation site that would simply listen on a variety of bands and collect weather information. The device would make all this data available via some reasonable API; possibly SNMP. Then a monitoring system to collect this data and graph it historically. This would allow the operator to have a much better view of the environment for which their network is operating in. -Matt On Apr 9, 2010, at 10:00 AM, John Scrivner wrote: I am not a huge UBNT fan but I might be persuaded to buy one of these for each tower to setup as a remote Spectrum Analyzer for each tower location. How much do these radios run and who sells them on here? Scriv WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- /* Jason Philbrook | Midcoast Internet Solutions - Wireless and DSL KB1IOJ| Broadband Internet Access, Dialup, and Hosting http://f64.nu/ | for Midcoast Mainehttp://www.midcoast.com/ */ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] monitoring product (was Re: Ubiquiti Beta 5.2.4 Released)
I'm pretty sure that Matt was talking about *RF spectrum* weather information here. I've thought about this a few times too- would be an extremely useful product. Even more useful if it had enough intelligence to learn the TDD patterns of the owner's equipment, and listen during the guard intervals so that it showed spectrum conditions with the owner's equipment removed. Being able to see real-time spectrum conditions on an operating link is one of the most useful features on the Orthogon PTP radios, IMO. Patrick Shoemaker Vector Data Systems LLC shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com office: (301) 358-1690 x36 http://www.vectordatasystems.com jp wrote: I dont' graph temp/humidity at my towers. I do graph it for my detatched garage and datacenter though. (The most important locations) I have a little atom PC running centos, 1-wire temp/humidity sensor from www.hobby-boards.com, owfs, mrtg, apache. It also has rsync and a 2tb drive for offsite backup of my photos. It is connected with fiber to my home for the offsite backup access. http://www.f64.nu/garage/temp_2.html http://www.f64.nu/garage/temp_3.html On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 12:50:45PM -0700, Ryan Spott wrote: Must be nice to be so close to a NOAA weather station.. and to have consistant weather from one mile-post to the next. I can tell you that out here, 200' elevation 4500' elevation 4 miles away. :) And I do graph all of that. :) ryan On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 9:08 PM, Jayson Baker jay...@spectrasurf.com wrote: We do this now. From NOAA weather stations. All our backhaul links are polled every 60 seconds for just about everything they spit out (i.e. bits in/out, signals, errors, temperature, etc.) as well as NOAA weather info (temp, humidity, pressure, etc.) for the nearest station. It's all available on a graph to us through extranet. Works very well. On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 8:07 AM, Matt Liotta mlio...@r337.com wrote: This makes me think about a cool product someone needs to produce. Some sort of device that could be deployed at a wireless colocation site that would simply listen on a variety of bands and collect weather information. The device would make all this data available via some reasonable API; possibly SNMP. Then a monitoring system to collect this data and graph it historically. This would allow the operator to have a much better view of the environment for which their network is operating in. -Matt On Apr 9, 2010, at 10:00 AM, John Scrivner wrote: I am not a huge UBNT fan but I might be persuaded to buy one of these for each tower to setup as a remote Spectrum Analyzer for each tower location. How much do these radios run and who sells them on here? Scriv WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] monitoring product (was Re: Ubiquiti Beta 5.2.4 Released)
The RouterOS v4 with the R52n has a spectrum analyzer mode (similar to Orthogon and others). With one of those on your tower either with an omni or a directional antenna and rotor, or both, you could do some pretty interesting things. If MT has the ability to read the analyzer output with their API, you could pretty easily graph the noise on every channel over time. Hmmm. Now that I've said that out loud, I think I'm going to build one. -Kristian On Fri, 2010-04-09 at 10:07 -0400, Matt Liotta wrote: This makes me think about a cool product someone needs to produce. Some sort of device that could be deployed at a wireless colocation site that would simply listen on a variety of bands and collect weather information. The device would make all this data available via some reasonable API; possibly SNMP. Then a monitoring system to collect this data and graph it historically. This would allow the operator to have a much better view of the environment for which their network is operating in. -Matt On Apr 9, 2010, at 10:00 AM, John Scrivner wrote: I am not a huge UBNT fan but I might be persuaded to buy one of these for each tower to setup as a remote Spectrum Analyzer for each tower location. How much do these radios run and who sells them on here? Scriv WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] monitoring product (was Re: Ubiquiti Beta 5.2.4 Released)
Document it well =) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 12:41 PM, Kristian Hoffmann kh...@fire2wire.comwrote: The RouterOS v4 with the R52n has a spectrum analyzer mode (similar to Orthogon and others). With one of those on your tower either with an omni or a directional antenna and rotor, or both, you could do some pretty interesting things. If MT has the ability to read the analyzer output with their API, you could pretty easily graph the noise on every channel over time. Hmmm. Now that I've said that out loud, I think I'm going to build one. -Kristian On Fri, 2010-04-09 at 10:07 -0400, Matt Liotta wrote: This makes me think about a cool product someone needs to produce. Some sort of device that could be deployed at a wireless colocation site that would simply listen on a variety of bands and collect weather information. The device would make all this data available via some reasonable API; possibly SNMP. Then a monitoring system to collect this data and graph it historically. This would allow the operator to have a much better view of the environment for which their network is operating in. -Matt On Apr 9, 2010, at 10:00 AM, John Scrivner wrote: I am not a huge UBNT fan but I might be persuaded to buy one of these for each tower to setup as a remote Spectrum Analyzer for each tower location. How much do these radios run and who sells them on here? Scriv WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] monitoring product (was Re: Ubiquiti Beta 5.2.4 Released)
Must be nice to be so close to a NOAA weather station.. and to have consistant weather from one mile-post to the next. I can tell you that out here, 200' elevation 4500' elevation 4 miles away. :) And I do graph all of that. :) ryan On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 9:08 PM, Jayson Baker jay...@spectrasurf.com wrote: We do this now. From NOAA weather stations. All our backhaul links are polled every 60 seconds for just about everything they spit out (i.e. bits in/out, signals, errors, temperature, etc.) as well as NOAA weather info (temp, humidity, pressure, etc.) for the nearest station. It's all available on a graph to us through extranet. Works very well. On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 8:07 AM, Matt Liotta mlio...@r337.com wrote: This makes me think about a cool product someone needs to produce. Some sort of device that could be deployed at a wireless colocation site that would simply listen on a variety of bands and collect weather information. The device would make all this data available via some reasonable API; possibly SNMP. Then a monitoring system to collect this data and graph it historically. This would allow the operator to have a much better view of the environment for which their network is operating in. -Matt On Apr 9, 2010, at 10:00 AM, John Scrivner wrote: I am not a huge UBNT fan but I might be persuaded to buy one of these for each tower to setup as a remote Spectrum Analyzer for each tower location. How much do these radios run and who sells them on here? Scriv WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] monitoring product (was Re: Ubiquiti Beta 5.2.4 Released)
Wow.. That would be useful. ryan On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 7:07 AM, Matt Liotta mlio...@r337.com wrote: This makes me think about a cool product someone needs to produce. Some sort of device that could be deployed at a wireless colocation site that would simply listen on a variety of bands and collect weather information. The device would make all this data available via some reasonable API; possibly SNMP. Then a monitoring system to collect this data and graph it historically. This would allow the operator to have a much better view of the environment for which their network is operating in. -Matt On Apr 9, 2010, at 10:00 AM, John Scrivner wrote: I am not a huge UBNT fan but I might be persuaded to buy one of these for each tower to setup as a remote Spectrum Analyzer for each tower location. How much do these radios run and who sells them on here? Scriv WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] monitoring product (was Re: Ubiquiti Beta 5.2.4 Released)
We have a setup for this. I use a carpc http://www.mini-box.com The VoomPC-2-Car-PC is the one we use currently. Put debian linux on it, with a davis weather station and usb link. Then I have a perl script that collects data from the weather station, and have SNMP running to gather other data from each site. Has Cacti running on them for data collection and well as syslog. Each carpc has an 80 gig HD and gig of ram.I have a few that have 802.11 cards or USB sticks on them for some basic stuff like freq monitoring etc.. All done with linux.. Best of all its 12 volt and these work well in harsher environments. Thanks Ryan On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 8:07 AM, Matt Liotta mlio...@r337.com wrote: This makes me think about a cool product someone needs to produce. Some sort of device that could be deployed at a wireless colocation site that would simply listen on a variety of bands and collect weather information. The device would make all this data available via some reasonable API; possibly SNMP. Then a monitoring system to collect this data and graph it historically. This would allow the operator to have a much better view of the environment for which their network is operating in. -Matt On Apr 9, 2010, at 10:00 AM, John Scrivner wrote: I am not a huge UBNT fan but I might be persuaded to buy one of these for each tower to setup as a remote Spectrum Analyzer for each tower location. How much do these radios run and who sells them on here? Scriv WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Ryan Ghering Network Operations - Plains.Net Office: 970-848-0475 - Cell: 970-630-1879 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] monitoring product (was Re: Ubiquiti Beta 5.2.4 Released)
You could use APRS weather stations nearby your tower or even put up your own. http://aprs.fi/ On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 9:24 AM, Ryan Ghering rgher...@gmail.com wrote: We have a setup for this. I use a carpc http://www.mini-box.com The VoomPC-2-Car-PC is the one we use currently. Put debian linux on it, with a davis weather station and usb link. Then I have a perl script that collects data from the weather station, and have SNMP running to gather other data from each site. Has Cacti running on them for data collection and well as syslog. Each carpc has an 80 gig HD and gig of ram.I have a few that have 802.11 cards or USB sticks on them for some basic stuff like freq monitoring etc.. All done with linux.. Best of all its 12 volt and these work well in harsher environments. Thanks Ryan On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 8:07 AM, Matt Liotta mlio...@r337.com wrote: This makes me think about a cool product someone needs to produce. Some sort of device that could be deployed at a wireless colocation site that would simply listen on a variety of bands and collect weather information. The device would make all this data available via some reasonable API; possibly SNMP. Then a monitoring system to collect this data and graph it historically. This would allow the operator to have a much better view of the environment for which their network is operating in. -Matt On Apr 9, 2010, at 10:00 AM, John Scrivner wrote: I am not a huge UBNT fan but I might be persuaded to buy one of these for each tower to setup as a remote Spectrum Analyzer for each tower location. How much do these radios run and who sells them on here? Scriv WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Ryan Ghering Network Operations - Plains.Net Office: 970-848-0475 - Cell: 970-630-1879 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] monitoring product (was Re: Ubiquiti Beta 5.2.4 Released)
http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?brand=wxmapquery=washington,+dc http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?brand=wxmapquery=washington,+dc ryan On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 2:59 PM, Philip Dorr wirel...@judgementgaming.comwrote: You could use APRS weather stations nearby your tower or even put up your own. http://aprs.fi/ On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 9:24 AM, Ryan Ghering rgher...@gmail.com wrote: We have a setup for this. I use a carpc http://www.mini-box.com The VoomPC-2-Car-PC is the one we use currently. Put debian linux on it, with a davis weather station and usb link. Then I have a perl script that collects data from the weather station, and have SNMP running to gather other data from each site. Has Cacti running on them for data collection and well as syslog. Each carpc has an 80 gig HD and gig of ram.I have a few that have 802.11 cards or USB sticks on them for some basic stuff like freq monitoring etc.. All done with linux.. Best of all its 12 volt and these work well in harsher environments. Thanks Ryan On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 8:07 AM, Matt Liotta mlio...@r337.com wrote: This makes me think about a cool product someone needs to produce. Some sort of device that could be deployed at a wireless colocation site that would simply listen on a variety of bands and collect weather information. The device would make all this data available via some reasonable API; possibly SNMP. Then a monitoring system to collect this data and graph it historically. This would allow the operator to have a much better view of the environment for which their network is operating in. -Matt On Apr 9, 2010, at 10:00 AM, John Scrivner wrote: I am not a huge UBNT fan but I might be persuaded to buy one of these for each tower to setup as a remote Spectrum Analyzer for each tower location. How much do these radios run and who sells them on here? Scriv WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Ryan Ghering Network Operations - Plains.Net Office: 970-848-0475 - Cell: 970-630-1879 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] monitoring product (was Re: Ubiquiti Beta 5.2.4 Released)
We do this now. From NOAA weather stations. All our backhaul links are polled every 60 seconds for just about everything they spit out (i.e. bits in/out, signals, errors, temperature, etc.) as well as NOAA weather info (temp, humidity, pressure, etc.) for the nearest station. It's all available on a graph to us through extranet. Works very well. On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 8:07 AM, Matt Liotta mlio...@r337.com wrote: This makes me think about a cool product someone needs to produce. Some sort of device that could be deployed at a wireless colocation site that would simply listen on a variety of bands and collect weather information. The device would make all this data available via some reasonable API; possibly SNMP. Then a monitoring system to collect this data and graph it historically. This would allow the operator to have a much better view of the environment for which their network is operating in. -Matt On Apr 9, 2010, at 10:00 AM, John Scrivner wrote: I am not a huge UBNT fan but I might be persuaded to buy one of these for each tower to setup as a remote Spectrum Analyzer for each tower location. How much do these radios run and who sells them on here? Scriv WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
