Re: [WISPA] the straight scoop on CALEA
George, I do understand this list does not get to see everything that goes on with WISPA but this also does not mean that we should see documents that are a work in progress with and shown as if it were a finished product. It could give a bad impression on potential members and make them think this organization does not have it's act together. As you can see with no updates on this document one can easily come to conclusions on what actually happened to this document. Either this list be kept up to date on progress with no input or not at all and they see the final document and that is it. No where in the post did the document say it was a work in progress. Regards, Dawn DiPietro George Rogato wrote: membership has it's privileges! :) :) :) George Rogato wrote: Dawn DiPietro wrote: Scriv, The only document I saw was the word doc named wispa calea fbi q and a which was posted to the public list on March 31. If there has been work done on it since then the public list did not get a chance to see it. Regards, Dawn DiPietro Thats right Dawn, the public list is the one with the least of the privileges. George -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] the straight scoop on CALEA
Marlon, Ok, maybe I have not seen the latest iteration of the document you posted to the list. The one I saw had misspellings and punctuation errors. So if that is not the same document I apologize. To say it was a bummer if you missed something is not the right attitude to take either. This day and age there is no reason why any document should have misspellings though. I have no doubts the committee worked hard on this issue. Regards, Dawn DiPietro Marlon K. Schafer wrote: Dawn, That doc was approved for dispersal by the FBI. There's not much in the way of edits that we can make without spoiling it's FBI approved status. And we did proof it. Many times. If we missed something that's a bummer. But it certainly doesn't take anything away from the content or it's accuracy. The team worked very hard to get this info together and they deserve lot of attaboys not nit picking. marlon - Original Message - From: Dawn DiPietro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 11:24 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] the straight scoop on CALEA Marlon, I am not on the WISPA FCC Committee and this should have been done before it got posted to the list to begin with. Either this committee has the time to do the job right or not at all. If something is done half assed then it will show in the finished product. Regards, Dawn DiPietro Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: Grin. As well as we can with the time available. If you see things that need to be fixed, please let us know. thanks, Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Dawn DiPietro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 3:07 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] the straight scoop on CALEA Marlon, I do hope it was proofread and edited before it was posted to the website. Regards, Dawn DiPietro Marlon K. Schafer wrote: I've asked that it be posted to the FCC committee part of the wispa site. When I get a link I'll pass it along. laters, marlon - Original Message - From: Adam Greene [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 4:47 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] the straight scoop on CALEA Marlon, All I can say is, this is great. Thanks so much to you guys (and gal) for doing this work. For me, this CALEA safe harbor work you are doing alone makes me feel justified in paying to be a member of WISPA. I probably would not even have become conscious in a serious way of CALEA without the help of WISPA. I expect our dues don't even cover your expenses for this work, so all I can say is thanks. Question: have you considered posting this document on the WISPA website so that we can publish links to it? For example, I'd like to share this info with opencalea.org mailing list; I think it would benefit them and the larger community. Also thanks to Clint for his recent posts, in particular the contact info of the fellow at the FBI who we can work with to test our compliance. Best regards, Adam --- Adam Greene VP, Operations Webjogger Internet Services http://www.webjogger.net (845) 757-4000 x134 - Original Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Principal WISPA Member List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2007 11:46 AM Subject: [WISPA] the straight scoop on CALEA Hi All, As many of you know, WISPA sent a team to Quantico to talk to the FBI's CALEA team first hand. We went down with a compilation of most of the questions that people had asked on all of the lists we could find. Here are the main questions and answers as worked out between WISPs and the FBI's CALEA team. As you can see, there is NO reason to panic. There is NO data storage requirement other than what's needed to deal with the specific warrant. There is no requirement to use an expensive TTP solution etc. Heck, they won't even toss you in jail for that free open hotspot you have! I hope people sleep better after having read this. Special thanks to Mike, Eric, Martha, Brent and Marty for all of the hours and hours and hours that they have put into this doc. Not to mention the money and time they put into the trip to Virginia! Great job guys (and gal), many many thanks. The deadline to be compliant is coming up in May. There are a couple of mechanisms that look like they'll allow you guys to be compliant very quickly and without going broke in the process. Image Stream has been deeply involved with this and a couple of other efforts that WISPA is working on in regards to CALEA. As is Butch Evens. Both have
Re: [WISPA] the straight scoop on CALEA
Dawn, Let's get constructive about this please. I saw this document edited, debated, discussed and refined continuously several times by several people over at the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list. This document was not a flippant attempt at resolving the issues. It was the culmination of a great deal of work by many people here and I applaud the effort. Dawn, please send us a post with the document you saw the errors in and comment where changes are needed and we will make them. Scriv Dawn DiPietro wrote: Marlon, Ok, maybe I have not seen the latest iteration of the document you posted to the list. The one I saw had misspellings and punctuation errors. So if that is not the same document I apologize. To say it was a bummer if you missed something is not the right attitude to take either. This day and age there is no reason why any document should have misspellings though. I have no doubts the committee worked hard on this issue. Regards, Dawn DiPietro Marlon K. Schafer wrote: Dawn, That doc was approved for dispersal by the FBI. There's not much in the way of edits that we can make without spoiling it's FBI approved status. And we did proof it. Many times. If we missed something that's a bummer. But it certainly doesn't take anything away from the content or it's accuracy. The team worked very hard to get this info together and they deserve lot of attaboys not nit picking. marlon - Original Message - From: Dawn DiPietro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 11:24 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] the straight scoop on CALEA Marlon, I am not on the WISPA FCC Committee and this should have been done before it got posted to the list to begin with. Either this committee has the time to do the job right or not at all. If something is done half assed then it will show in the finished product. Regards, Dawn DiPietro Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: Grin. As well as we can with the time available. If you see things that need to be fixed, please let us know. thanks, Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Dawn DiPietro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 3:07 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] the straight scoop on CALEA Marlon, I do hope it was proofread and edited before it was posted to the website. Regards, Dawn DiPietro Marlon K. Schafer wrote: I've asked that it be posted to the FCC committee part of the wispa site. When I get a link I'll pass it along. laters, marlon - Original Message - From: Adam Greene [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 4:47 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] the straight scoop on CALEA Marlon, All I can say is, this is great. Thanks so much to you guys (and gal) for doing this work. For me, this CALEA safe harbor work you are doing alone makes me feel justified in paying to be a member of WISPA. I probably would not even have become conscious in a serious way of CALEA without the help of WISPA. I expect our dues don't even cover your expenses for this work, so all I can say is thanks. Question: have you considered posting this document on the WISPA website so that we can publish links to it? For example, I'd like to share this info with opencalea.org mailing list; I think it would benefit them and the larger community. Also thanks to Clint for his recent posts, in particular the contact info of the fellow at the FBI who we can work with to test our compliance. Best regards, Adam --- Adam Greene VP, Operations Webjogger Internet Services http://www.webjogger.net (845) 757-4000 x134 - Original Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Principal WISPA Member List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2007 11:46 AM Subject: [WISPA] the straight scoop on CALEA Hi All, As many of you know, WISPA sent a team to Quantico to talk to the FBI's CALEA team first hand. We went down with a compilation of most of the questions that people had asked on all of the lists we could find. Here are the main questions and answers as worked out between WISPs and the FBI's CALEA team. As you can see, there is NO reason to panic. There is NO data storage requirement other than what's needed to deal with the specific warrant. There is no requirement to use an expensive TTP solution etc. Heck, they won't even toss you in jail for that free open hotspot you have! I hope people sleep better after having read this. Special thanks to Mike, Eric, Martha, Brent and Marty for all of the hours and hours and hours
Re: [WISPA] the straight scoop on CALEA
Scriv, The only document I saw was the word doc named wispa calea fbi q and a which was posted to the public list on March 31. If there has been work done on it since then the public list did not get a chance to see it. Regards, Dawn DiPietro John Scrivner wrote: Dawn, Let's get constructive about this please. I saw this document edited, debated, discussed and refined continuously several times by several people over at the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list. This document was not a flippant attempt at resolving the issues. It was the culmination of a great deal of work by many people here and I applaud the effort. Dawn, please send us a post with the document you saw the errors in and comment where changes are needed and we will make them. Scriv Dawn DiPietro wrote: Marlon, Ok, maybe I have not seen the latest iteration of the document you posted to the list. The one I saw had misspellings and punctuation errors. So if that is not the same document I apologize. To say it was a bummer if you missed something is not the right attitude to take either. This day and age there is no reason why any document should have misspellings though. I have no doubts the committee worked hard on this issue. Regards, Dawn DiPietro Marlon K. Schafer wrote: Dawn, That doc was approved for dispersal by the FBI. There's not much in the way of edits that we can make without spoiling it's FBI approved status. And we did proof it. Many times. If we missed something that's a bummer. But it certainly doesn't take anything away from the content or it's accuracy. The team worked very hard to get this info together and they deserve lot of attaboys not nit picking. marlon - Original Message - From: Dawn DiPietro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 11:24 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] the straight scoop on CALEA Marlon, I am not on the WISPA FCC Committee and this should have been done before it got posted to the list to begin with. Either this committee has the time to do the job right or not at all. If something is done half assed then it will show in the finished product. Regards, Dawn DiPietro Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: Grin. As well as we can with the time available. If you see things that need to be fixed, please let us know. thanks, Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Dawn DiPietro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 3:07 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] the straight scoop on CALEA Marlon, I do hope it was proofread and edited before it was posted to the website. Regards, Dawn DiPietro Marlon K. Schafer wrote: I've asked that it be posted to the FCC committee part of the wispa site. When I get a link I'll pass it along. laters, marlon - Original Message - From: Adam Greene [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 4:47 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] the straight scoop on CALEA Marlon, All I can say is, this is great. Thanks so much to you guys (and gal) for doing this work. For me, this CALEA safe harbor work you are doing alone makes me feel justified in paying to be a member of WISPA. I probably would not even have become conscious in a serious way of CALEA without the help of WISPA. I expect our dues don't even cover your expenses for this work, so all I can say is thanks. Question: have you considered posting this document on the WISPA website so that we can publish links to it? For example, I'd like to share this info with opencalea.org mailing list; I think it would benefit them and the larger community. Also thanks to Clint for his recent posts, in particular the contact info of the fellow at the FBI who we can work with to test our compliance. Best regards, Adam --- Adam Greene VP, Operations Webjogger Internet Services http://www.webjogger.net (845) 757-4000 x134 - Original Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Principal WISPA Member List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2007 11:46 AM Subject: [WISPA] the straight scoop on CALEA Hi All, As many of you know, WISPA sent a team to Quantico to talk to the FBI's CALEA team first hand. We went down with a compilation of most of the questions that people had asked on all of the lists we could find. Here are the main questions and answers as worked out between WISPs and the FBI's CALEA team. As you can see, there is NO reason to panic. There is NO data storage requirement other than what's needed to deal with the specific warrant
Re: [WISPA] the straight scoop on CALEA
Dawn DiPietro wrote: Scriv, The only document I saw was the word doc named wispa calea fbi q and a which was posted to the public list on March 31. If there has been work done on it since then the public list did not get a chance to see it. Regards, Dawn DiPietro Thats right Dawn, the public list is the one with the least of the privileges. George -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] the straight scoop on CALEA
membership has it's privileges! :) :) :) George Rogato wrote: Dawn DiPietro wrote: Scriv, The only document I saw was the word doc named wispa calea fbi q and a which was posted to the public list on March 31. If there has been work done on it since then the public list did not get a chance to see it. Regards, Dawn DiPietro Thats right Dawn, the public list is the one with the least of the privileges. George -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] the straight scoop on CALEA
I was only asking that you provide what you think needs corrections from what you read. Please feel free to send in the changes you would like to see. This document is published on 2 websites and we can easily make changes. Kindest regards, John Scrivner Dawn DiPietro wrote: Scriv, The only document I saw was the word doc named wispa calea fbi q and a which was posted to the public list on March 31. If there has been work done on it since then the public list did not get a chance to see it. Regards, Dawn DiPietro John Scrivner wrote: Dawn, Let's get constructive about this please. I saw this document edited, debated, discussed and refined continuously several times by several people over at the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list. This document was not a flippant attempt at resolving the issues. It was the culmination of a great deal of work by many people here and I applaud the effort. Dawn, please send us a post with the document you saw the errors in and comment where changes are needed and we will make them. Scriv Dawn DiPietro wrote: Marlon, Ok, maybe I have not seen the latest iteration of the document you posted to the list. The one I saw had misspellings and punctuation errors. So if that is not the same document I apologize. To say it was a bummer if you missed something is not the right attitude to take either. This day and age there is no reason why any document should have misspellings though. I have no doubts the committee worked hard on this issue. Regards, Dawn DiPietro Marlon K. Schafer wrote: Dawn, That doc was approved for dispersal by the FBI. There's not much in the way of edits that we can make without spoiling it's FBI approved status. And we did proof it. Many times. If we missed something that's a bummer. But it certainly doesn't take anything away from the content or it's accuracy. The team worked very hard to get this info together and they deserve lot of attaboys not nit picking. marlon - Original Message - From: Dawn DiPietro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 11:24 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] the straight scoop on CALEA Marlon, I am not on the WISPA FCC Committee and this should have been done before it got posted to the list to begin with. Either this committee has the time to do the job right or not at all. If something is done half assed then it will show in the finished product. Regards, Dawn DiPietro Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: Grin. As well as we can with the time available. If you see things that need to be fixed, please let us know. thanks, Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Dawn DiPietro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 3:07 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] the straight scoop on CALEA Marlon, I do hope it was proofread and edited before it was posted to the website. Regards, Dawn DiPietro Marlon K. Schafer wrote: I've asked that it be posted to the FCC committee part of the wispa site. When I get a link I'll pass it along. laters, marlon - Original Message - From: Adam Greene [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 4:47 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] the straight scoop on CALEA Marlon, All I can say is, this is great. Thanks so much to you guys (and gal) for doing this work. For me, this CALEA safe harbor work you are doing alone makes me feel justified in paying to be a member of WISPA. I probably would not even have become conscious in a serious way of CALEA without the help of WISPA. I expect our dues don't even cover your expenses for this work, so all I can say is thanks. Question: have you considered posting this document on the WISPA website so that we can publish links to it? For example, I'd like to share this info with opencalea.org mailing list; I think it would benefit them and the larger community. Also thanks to Clint for his recent posts, in particular the contact info of the fellow at the FBI who we can work with to test our compliance. Best regards, Adam --- Adam Greene VP, Operations Webjogger Internet Services http://www.webjogger.net (845) 757-4000 x134 - Original Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Principal WISPA Member List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2007 11:46 AM Subject: [WISPA] the straight scoop on CALEA Hi All, As many of you know, WISPA sent a team to Quantico to talk to the FBI's CALEA team first hand. We went down with a compilation of most of the questions that people had asked on all
Re: [WISPA] the straight scoop on CALEA
Marlon, I do hope it was proofread and edited before it was posted to the website. Regards, Dawn DiPietro Marlon K. Schafer wrote: I've asked that it be posted to the FCC committee part of the wispa site. When I get a link I'll pass it along. laters, marlon - Original Message - From: Adam Greene [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 4:47 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] the straight scoop on CALEA Marlon, All I can say is, this is great. Thanks so much to you guys (and gal) for doing this work. For me, this CALEA safe harbor work you are doing alone makes me feel justified in paying to be a member of WISPA. I probably would not even have become conscious in a serious way of CALEA without the help of WISPA. I expect our dues don't even cover your expenses for this work, so all I can say is thanks. Question: have you considered posting this document on the WISPA website so that we can publish links to it? For example, I'd like to share this info with opencalea.org mailing list; I think it would benefit them and the larger community. Also thanks to Clint for his recent posts, in particular the contact info of the fellow at the FBI who we can work with to test our compliance. Best regards, Adam --- Adam Greene VP, Operations Webjogger Internet Services http://www.webjogger.net (845) 757-4000 x134 - Original Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Principal WISPA Member List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2007 11:46 AM Subject: [WISPA] the straight scoop on CALEA Hi All, As many of you know, WISPA sent a team to Quantico to talk to the FBI's CALEA team first hand. We went down with a compilation of most of the questions that people had asked on all of the lists we could find. Here are the main questions and answers as worked out between WISPs and the FBI's CALEA team. As you can see, there is NO reason to panic. There is NO data storage requirement other than what's needed to deal with the specific warrant. There is no requirement to use an expensive TTP solution etc. Heck, they won't even toss you in jail for that free open hotspot you have! I hope people sleep better after having read this. Special thanks to Mike, Eric, Martha, Brent and Marty for all of the hours and hours and hours that they have put into this doc. Not to mention the money and time they put into the trip to Virginia! Great job guys (and gal), many many thanks. The deadline to be compliant is coming up in May. There are a couple of mechanisms that look like they'll allow you guys to be compliant very quickly and without going broke in the process. Image Stream has been deeply involved with this and a couple of other efforts that WISPA is working on in regards to CALEA. As is Butch Evens. Both have solutions that should work for folks if you get a warrant issued before the rest of the things we're working on are finished up. I'll release more info on what we're doing at the association level as soon as I can. Please know though, we have some very bright people deeply involved in things related to CALEA and it's impact on our businesses. The next phases will take several months though. Sincerely, Marlon K. Schafer FCC Committee Chairman www.wispa.org -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] the straight scoop on CALEA
Grin. As well as we can with the time available. If you see things that need to be fixed, please let us know. thanks, Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Dawn DiPietro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 3:07 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] the straight scoop on CALEA Marlon, I do hope it was proofread and edited before it was posted to the website. Regards, Dawn DiPietro Marlon K. Schafer wrote: I've asked that it be posted to the FCC committee part of the wispa site. When I get a link I'll pass it along. laters, marlon - Original Message - From: Adam Greene [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 4:47 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] the straight scoop on CALEA Marlon, All I can say is, this is great. Thanks so much to you guys (and gal) for doing this work. For me, this CALEA safe harbor work you are doing alone makes me feel justified in paying to be a member of WISPA. I probably would not even have become conscious in a serious way of CALEA without the help of WISPA. I expect our dues don't even cover your expenses for this work, so all I can say is thanks. Question: have you considered posting this document on the WISPA website so that we can publish links to it? For example, I'd like to share this info with opencalea.org mailing list; I think it would benefit them and the larger community. Also thanks to Clint for his recent posts, in particular the contact info of the fellow at the FBI who we can work with to test our compliance. Best regards, Adam --- Adam Greene VP, Operations Webjogger Internet Services http://www.webjogger.net (845) 757-4000 x134 - Original Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Principal WISPA Member List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2007 11:46 AM Subject: [WISPA] the straight scoop on CALEA Hi All, As many of you know, WISPA sent a team to Quantico to talk to the FBI's CALEA team first hand. We went down with a compilation of most of the questions that people had asked on all of the lists we could find. Here are the main questions and answers as worked out between WISPs and the FBI's CALEA team. As you can see, there is NO reason to panic. There is NO data storage requirement other than what's needed to deal with the specific warrant. There is no requirement to use an expensive TTP solution etc. Heck, they won't even toss you in jail for that free open hotspot you have! I hope people sleep better after having read this. Special thanks to Mike, Eric, Martha, Brent and Marty for all of the hours and hours and hours that they have put into this doc. Not to mention the money and time they put into the trip to Virginia! Great job guys (and gal), many many thanks. The deadline to be compliant is coming up in May. There are a couple of mechanisms that look like they'll allow you guys to be compliant very quickly and without going broke in the process. Image Stream has been deeply involved with this and a couple of other efforts that WISPA is working on in regards to CALEA. As is Butch Evens. Both have solutions that should work for folks if you get a warrant issued before the rest of the things we're working on are finished up. I'll release more info on what we're doing at the association level as soon as I can. Please know though, we have some very bright people deeply involved in things related to CALEA and it's impact on our businesses. The next phases will take several months though. Sincerely, Marlon K. Schafer FCC Committee Chairman www.wispa.org -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] the straight scoop on CALEA
Marlon, I am not on the WISPA FCC Committee and this should have been done before it got posted to the list to begin with. Either this committee has the time to do the job right or not at all. If something is done half assed then it will show in the finished product. Regards, Dawn DiPietro Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: Grin. As well as we can with the time available. If you see things that need to be fixed, please let us know. thanks, Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Dawn DiPietro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 3:07 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] the straight scoop on CALEA Marlon, I do hope it was proofread and edited before it was posted to the website. Regards, Dawn DiPietro Marlon K. Schafer wrote: I've asked that it be posted to the FCC committee part of the wispa site. When I get a link I'll pass it along. laters, marlon - Original Message - From: Adam Greene [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 4:47 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] the straight scoop on CALEA Marlon, All I can say is, this is great. Thanks so much to you guys (and gal) for doing this work. For me, this CALEA safe harbor work you are doing alone makes me feel justified in paying to be a member of WISPA. I probably would not even have become conscious in a serious way of CALEA without the help of WISPA. I expect our dues don't even cover your expenses for this work, so all I can say is thanks. Question: have you considered posting this document on the WISPA website so that we can publish links to it? For example, I'd like to share this info with opencalea.org mailing list; I think it would benefit them and the larger community. Also thanks to Clint for his recent posts, in particular the contact info of the fellow at the FBI who we can work with to test our compliance. Best regards, Adam --- Adam Greene VP, Operations Webjogger Internet Services http://www.webjogger.net (845) 757-4000 x134 - Original Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Principal WISPA Member List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2007 11:46 AM Subject: [WISPA] the straight scoop on CALEA Hi All, As many of you know, WISPA sent a team to Quantico to talk to the FBI's CALEA team first hand. We went down with a compilation of most of the questions that people had asked on all of the lists we could find. Here are the main questions and answers as worked out between WISPs and the FBI's CALEA team. As you can see, there is NO reason to panic. There is NO data storage requirement other than what's needed to deal with the specific warrant. There is no requirement to use an expensive TTP solution etc. Heck, they won't even toss you in jail for that free open hotspot you have! I hope people sleep better after having read this. Special thanks to Mike, Eric, Martha, Brent and Marty for all of the hours and hours and hours that they have put into this doc. Not to mention the money and time they put into the trip to Virginia! Great job guys (and gal), many many thanks. The deadline to be compliant is coming up in May. There are a couple of mechanisms that look like they'll allow you guys to be compliant very quickly and without going broke in the process. Image Stream has been deeply involved with this and a couple of other efforts that WISPA is working on in regards to CALEA. As is Butch Evens. Both have solutions that should work for folks if you get a warrant issued before the rest of the things we're working on are finished up. I'll release more info on what we're doing at the association level as soon as I can. Please know though, we have some very bright people deeply involved in things related to CALEA and it's impact on our businesses. The next phases will take several months though. Sincerely, Marlon K. Schafer FCC Committee Chairman www.wispa.org -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] the straight scoop on CALEA
We need more help on the fcc committee. Dawn DiPietro wrote: Marlon, I am not on the WISPA FCC Committee and this should have been done before it got posted to the list to begin with. Either this committee has the time to do the job right or not at all. If something is done half assed then it will show in the finished product. Regards, Dawn DiPietro Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: Grin. As well as we can with the time available. If you see things that need to be fixed, please let us know. thanks, Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Dawn DiPietro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 3:07 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] the straight scoop on CALEA Marlon, I do hope it was proofread and edited before it was posted to the website. Regards, Dawn DiPietro Marlon K. Schafer wrote: I've asked that it be posted to the FCC committee part of the wispa site. When I get a link I'll pass it along. laters, marlon - Original Message - From: Adam Greene [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 4:47 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] the straight scoop on CALEA Marlon, All I can say is, this is great. Thanks so much to you guys (and gal) for doing this work. For me, this CALEA safe harbor work you are doing alone makes me feel justified in paying to be a member of WISPA. I probably would not even have become conscious in a serious way of CALEA without the help of WISPA. I expect our dues don't even cover your expenses for this work, so all I can say is thanks. Question: have you considered posting this document on the WISPA website so that we can publish links to it? For example, I'd like to share this info with opencalea.org mailing list; I think it would benefit them and the larger community. Also thanks to Clint for his recent posts, in particular the contact info of the fellow at the FBI who we can work with to test our compliance. Best regards, Adam --- Adam Greene VP, Operations Webjogger Internet Services http://www.webjogger.net (845) 757-4000 x134 - Original Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Principal WISPA Member List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2007 11:46 AM Subject: [WISPA] the straight scoop on CALEA Hi All, As many of you know, WISPA sent a team to Quantico to talk to the FBI's CALEA team first hand. We went down with a compilation of most of the questions that people had asked on all of the lists we could find. Here are the main questions and answers as worked out between WISPs and the FBI's CALEA team. As you can see, there is NO reason to panic. There is NO data storage requirement other than what's needed to deal with the specific warrant. There is no requirement to use an expensive TTP solution etc. Heck, they won't even toss you in jail for that free open hotspot you have! I hope people sleep better after having read this. Special thanks to Mike, Eric, Martha, Brent and Marty for all of the hours and hours and hours that they have put into this doc. Not to mention the money and time they put into the trip to Virginia! Great job guys (and gal), many many thanks. The deadline to be compliant is coming up in May. There are a couple of mechanisms that look like they'll allow you guys to be compliant very quickly and without going broke in the process. Image Stream has been deeply involved with this and a couple of other efforts that WISPA is working on in regards to CALEA. As is Butch Evens. Both have solutions that should work for folks if you get a warrant issued before the rest of the things we're working on are finished up. I'll release more info on what we're doing at the association level as soon as I can. Please know though, we have some very bright people deeply involved in things related to CALEA and it's impact on our businesses. The next phases will take several months though. Sincerely, Marlon K. Schafer FCC Committee Chairman www.wispa.org -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] the straight scoop on CALEA
George, Sign me up and I will help where I can. Regards, Dawn DiPietro George Rogato wrote: We need more help on the fcc committee. Dawn DiPietro wrote: Marlon, I am not on the WISPA FCC Committee and this should have been done before it got posted to the list to begin with. Either this committee has the time to do the job right or not at all. If something is done half assed then it will show in the finished product. Regards, Dawn DiPietro Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: Grin. As well as we can with the time available. If you see things that need to be fixed, please let us know. thanks, Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Dawn DiPietro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 3:07 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] the straight scoop on CALEA Marlon, I do hope it was proofread and edited before it was posted to the website. Regards, Dawn DiPietro Marlon K. Schafer wrote: I've asked that it be posted to the FCC committee part of the wispa site. When I get a link I'll pass it along. laters, marlon - Original Message - From: Adam Greene [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 4:47 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] the straight scoop on CALEA Marlon, All I can say is, this is great. Thanks so much to you guys (and gal) for doing this work. For me, this CALEA safe harbor work you are doing alone makes me feel justified in paying to be a member of WISPA. I probably would not even have become conscious in a serious way of CALEA without the help of WISPA. I expect our dues don't even cover your expenses for this work, so all I can say is thanks. Question: have you considered posting this document on the WISPA website so that we can publish links to it? For example, I'd like to share this info with opencalea.org mailing list; I think it would benefit them and the larger community. Also thanks to Clint for his recent posts, in particular the contact info of the fellow at the FBI who we can work with to test our compliance. Best regards, Adam --- Adam Greene VP, Operations Webjogger Internet Services http://www.webjogger.net (845) 757-4000 x134 - Original Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Principal WISPA Member List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2007 11:46 AM Subject: [WISPA] the straight scoop on CALEA Hi All, As many of you know, WISPA sent a team to Quantico to talk to the FBI's CALEA team first hand. We went down with a compilation of most of the questions that people had asked on all of the lists we could find. Here are the main questions and answers as worked out between WISPs and the FBI's CALEA team. As you can see, there is NO reason to panic. There is NO data storage requirement other than what's needed to deal with the specific warrant. There is no requirement to use an expensive TTP solution etc. Heck, they won't even toss you in jail for that free open hotspot you have! I hope people sleep better after having read this. Special thanks to Mike, Eric, Martha, Brent and Marty for all of the hours and hours and hours that they have put into this doc. Not to mention the money and time they put into the trip to Virginia! Great job guys (and gal), many many thanks. The deadline to be compliant is coming up in May. There are a couple of mechanisms that look like they'll allow you guys to be compliant very quickly and without going broke in the process. Image Stream has been deeply involved with this and a couple of other efforts that WISPA is working on in regards to CALEA. As is Butch Evens. Both have solutions that should work for folks if you get a warrant issued before the rest of the things we're working on are finished up. I'll release more info on what we're doing at the association level as soon as I can. Please know though, we have some very bright people deeply involved in things related to CALEA and it's impact on our businesses. The next phases will take several months though. Sincerely, Marlon K. Schafer FCC Committee Chairman www.wispa.org -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe
RE: [WISPA] the straight scoop on CALEA
George, I would like to help. Not sure if I have skill set to be of service. Please contact me off list on what you want more people to do. Don Renner NetsurfUSA, Inc. 812-936-2525office 812-521-1876cell [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Rogato Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 4:13 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] the straight scoop on CALEA We need more help on the fcc committee. Dawn DiPietro wrote: Marlon, I am not on the WISPA FCC Committee and this should have been done before it got posted to the list to begin with. Either this committee has the time to do the job right or not at all. If something is done half assed then it will show in the finished product. Regards, Dawn DiPietro Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: Grin. As well as we can with the time available. If you see things that need to be fixed, please let us know. thanks, Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Dawn DiPietro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 3:07 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] the straight scoop on CALEA Marlon, I do hope it was proofread and edited before it was posted to the website. Regards, Dawn DiPietro Marlon K. Schafer wrote: I've asked that it be posted to the FCC committee part of the wispa site. When I get a link I'll pass it along. laters, marlon - Original Message - From: Adam Greene [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 4:47 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] the straight scoop on CALEA Marlon, All I can say is, this is great. Thanks so much to you guys (and gal) for doing this work. For me, this CALEA safe harbor work you are doing alone makes me feel justified in paying to be a member of WISPA. I probably would not even have become conscious in a serious way of CALEA without the help of WISPA. I expect our dues don't even cover your expenses for this work, so all I can say is thanks. Question: have you considered posting this document on the WISPA website so that we can publish links to it? For example, I'd like to share this info with opencalea.org mailing list; I think it would benefit them and the larger community. Also thanks to Clint for his recent posts, in particular the contact info of the fellow at the FBI who we can work with to test our compliance. Best regards, Adam --- Adam Greene VP, Operations Webjogger Internet Services http://www.webjogger.net (845) 757-4000 x134 - Original Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Principal WISPA Member List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2007 11:46 AM Subject: [WISPA] the straight scoop on CALEA Hi All, As many of you know, WISPA sent a team to Quantico to talk to the FBI's CALEA team first hand. We went down with a compilation of most of the questions that people had asked on all of the lists we could find. Here are the main questions and answers as worked out between WISPs and the FBI's CALEA team. As you can see, there is NO reason to panic. There is NO data storage requirement other than what's needed to deal with the specific warrant. There is no requirement to use an expensive TTP solution etc. Heck, they won't even toss you in jail for that free open hotspot you have! I hope people sleep better after having read this. Special thanks to Mike, Eric, Martha, Brent and Marty for all of the hours and hours and hours that they have put into this doc. Not to mention the money and time they put into the trip to Virginia! Great job guys (and gal), many many thanks. The deadline to be compliant is coming up in May. There are a couple of mechanisms that look like they'll allow you guys to be compliant very quickly and without going broke in the process. Image Stream has been deeply involved with this and a couple of other efforts that WISPA is working on in regards to CALEA. As is Butch Evens. Both have solutions that should work for folks if you get a warrant issued before the rest of the things we're working on are finished up. I'll release more info on what we're doing at the association level as soon as I can. Please know though, we have some very bright people deeply involved in things related to CALEA and it's impact on our businesses. The next phases will take several months though. Sincerely, Marlon K. Schafer FCC Committee Chairman www.wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] the straight scoop on CALEA
Dawn DiPietro wrote: George, Sign me up and I will help where I can. Regards, Dawn DiPietro Anyone who has interest in the fcc committee has to go through Marlon who chairs that committee. Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage) 42846865 (icq) [EMAIL PROTECTED] George -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] the straight scoop on CALEA
Oh great...now you tell me. ;-) George Rogato wrote: Dawn DiPietro wrote: George, Sign me up and I will help where I can. Regards, Dawn DiPietro Anyone who has interest in the fcc committee has to go through Marlon who chairs that committee. Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage) 42846865 (icq) [EMAIL PROTECTED] George -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] the straight scoop on CALEA
Marlon is a good guy. Does a nice job with the fcc stuff with the limited help he can get. I think his only concerns with the fcc committee is probably making sure the members actually have knowledge that they can contribute, rather than a venting list. Anyone who has interest, just get with Marlon and he'll talk to you about it. Dawn DiPietro wrote: Oh great...now you tell me. ;-) George Rogato wrote: Dawn DiPietro wrote: George, Sign me up and I will help where I can. Regards, Dawn DiPietro Anyone who has interest in the fcc committee has to go through Marlon who chairs that committee. Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage) 42846865 (icq) [EMAIL PROTECTED] George -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] the straight scoop on CALEA
Dawn, That doc was approved for dispersal by the FBI. There's not much in the way of edits that we can make without spoiling it's FBI approved status. And we did proof it. Many times. If we missed something that's a bummer. But it certainly doesn't take anything away from the content or it's accuracy. The team worked very hard to get this info together and they deserve lot of attaboys not nit picking. marlon - Original Message - From: Dawn DiPietro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 11:24 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] the straight scoop on CALEA Marlon, I am not on the WISPA FCC Committee and this should have been done before it got posted to the list to begin with. Either this committee has the time to do the job right or not at all. If something is done half assed then it will show in the finished product. Regards, Dawn DiPietro Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: Grin. As well as we can with the time available. If you see things that need to be fixed, please let us know. thanks, Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Dawn DiPietro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 3:07 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] the straight scoop on CALEA Marlon, I do hope it was proofread and edited before it was posted to the website. Regards, Dawn DiPietro Marlon K. Schafer wrote: I've asked that it be posted to the FCC committee part of the wispa site. When I get a link I'll pass it along. laters, marlon - Original Message - From: Adam Greene [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 4:47 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] the straight scoop on CALEA Marlon, All I can say is, this is great. Thanks so much to you guys (and gal) for doing this work. For me, this CALEA safe harbor work you are doing alone makes me feel justified in paying to be a member of WISPA. I probably would not even have become conscious in a serious way of CALEA without the help of WISPA. I expect our dues don't even cover your expenses for this work, so all I can say is thanks. Question: have you considered posting this document on the WISPA website so that we can publish links to it? For example, I'd like to share this info with opencalea.org mailing list; I think it would benefit them and the larger community. Also thanks to Clint for his recent posts, in particular the contact info of the fellow at the FBI who we can work with to test our compliance. Best regards, Adam --- Adam Greene VP, Operations Webjogger Internet Services http://www.webjogger.net (845) 757-4000 x134 - Original Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Principal WISPA Member List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2007 11:46 AM Subject: [WISPA] the straight scoop on CALEA Hi All, As many of you know, WISPA sent a team to Quantico to talk to the FBI's CALEA team first hand. We went down with a compilation of most of the questions that people had asked on all of the lists we could find. Here are the main questions and answers as worked out between WISPs and the FBI's CALEA team. As you can see, there is NO reason to panic. There is NO data storage requirement other than what's needed to deal with the specific warrant. There is no requirement to use an expensive TTP solution etc. Heck, they won't even toss you in jail for that free open hotspot you have! I hope people sleep better after having read this. Special thanks to Mike, Eric, Martha, Brent and Marty for all of the hours and hours and hours that they have put into this doc. Not to mention the money and time they put into the trip to Virginia! Great job guys (and gal), many many thanks. The deadline to be compliant is coming up in May. There are a couple of mechanisms that look like they'll allow you guys to be compliant very quickly and without going broke in the process. Image Stream has been deeply involved with this and a couple of other efforts that WISPA is working on in regards to CALEA. As is Butch Evens. Both have solutions that should work for folks if you get a warrant issued before the rest of the things we're working on are finished up. I'll release more info on what we're doing at the association level as soon as I can. Please know though, we have some very bright people deeply involved in things related to CALEA and it's impact on our businesses. The next phases will take several months though. Sincerely, Marlon K. Schafer FCC Committee Chairman www.wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] the straight scoop on CALEA
Yeah, there are only three or 4 people really on the committee at this point. Sure could use a few more. But I'm only looking for people that will take the time to study the issues etc. We need more workers. marlon - Original Message - From: George Rogato [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 5:42 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] the straight scoop on CALEA Marlon is a good guy. Does a nice job with the fcc stuff with the limited help he can get. I think his only concerns with the fcc committee is probably making sure the members actually have knowledge that they can contribute, rather than a venting list. Anyone who has interest, just get with Marlon and he'll talk to you about it. Dawn DiPietro wrote: Oh great...now you tell me. ;-) George Rogato wrote: Dawn DiPietro wrote: George, Sign me up and I will help where I can. Regards, Dawn DiPietro Anyone who has interest in the fcc committee has to go through Marlon who chairs that committee. Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage) 42846865 (icq) [EMAIL PROTECTED] George -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] the straight scoop on CALEA
I've asked that it be posted to the FCC committee part of the wispa site. When I get a link I'll pass it along. laters, marlon - Original Message - From: Adam Greene [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 4:47 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] the straight scoop on CALEA Marlon, All I can say is, this is great. Thanks so much to you guys (and gal) for doing this work. For me, this CALEA safe harbor work you are doing alone makes me feel justified in paying to be a member of WISPA. I probably would not even have become conscious in a serious way of CALEA without the help of WISPA. I expect our dues don't even cover your expenses for this work, so all I can say is thanks. Question: have you considered posting this document on the WISPA website so that we can publish links to it? For example, I'd like to share this info with opencalea.org mailing list; I think it would benefit them and the larger community. Also thanks to Clint for his recent posts, in particular the contact info of the fellow at the FBI who we can work with to test our compliance. Best regards, Adam --- Adam Greene VP, Operations Webjogger Internet Services http://www.webjogger.net (845) 757-4000 x134 - Original Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Principal WISPA Member List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2007 11:46 AM Subject: [WISPA] the straight scoop on CALEA Hi All, As many of you know, WISPA sent a team to Quantico to talk to the FBI's CALEA team first hand. We went down with a compilation of most of the questions that people had asked on all of the lists we could find. Here are the main questions and answers as worked out between WISPs and the FBI's CALEA team. As you can see, there is NO reason to panic. There is NO data storage requirement other than what's needed to deal with the specific warrant. There is no requirement to use an expensive TTP solution etc. Heck, they won't even toss you in jail for that free open hotspot you have! I hope people sleep better after having read this. Special thanks to Mike, Eric, Martha, Brent and Marty for all of the hours and hours and hours that they have put into this doc. Not to mention the money and time they put into the trip to Virginia! Great job guys (and gal), many many thanks. The deadline to be compliant is coming up in May. There are a couple of mechanisms that look like they'll allow you guys to be compliant very quickly and without going broke in the process. Image Stream has been deeply involved with this and a couple of other efforts that WISPA is working on in regards to CALEA. As is Butch Evens. Both have solutions that should work for folks if you get a warrant issued before the rest of the things we're working on are finished up. I'll release more info on what we're doing at the association level as soon as I can. Please know though, we have some very bright people deeply involved in things related to CALEA and it's impact on our businesses. The next phases will take several months though. Sincerely, Marlon K. Schafer FCC Committee Chairman www.wispa.org -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] the straight scoop on CALEA
Marlon, All I can say is, this is great. Thanks so much to you guys (and gal) for doing this work. For me, this CALEA safe harbor work you are doing alone makes me feel justified in paying to be a member of WISPA. I probably would not even have become conscious in a serious way of CALEA without the help of WISPA. I expect our dues don't even cover your expenses for this work, so all I can say is thanks. Question: have you considered posting this document on the WISPA website so that we can publish links to it? For example, I'd like to share this info with opencalea.org mailing list; I think it would benefit them and the larger community. Also thanks to Clint for his recent posts, in particular the contact info of the fellow at the FBI who we can work with to test our compliance. Best regards, Adam --- Adam Greene VP, Operations Webjogger Internet Services http://www.webjogger.net (845) 757-4000 x134 - Original Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Principal WISPA Member List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2007 11:46 AM Subject: [WISPA] the straight scoop on CALEA Hi All, As many of you know, WISPA sent a team to Quantico to talk to the FBI's CALEA team first hand. We went down with a compilation of most of the questions that people had asked on all of the lists we could find. Here are the main questions and answers as worked out between WISPs and the FBI's CALEA team. As you can see, there is NO reason to panic. There is NO data storage requirement other than what's needed to deal with the specific warrant. There is no requirement to use an expensive TTP solution etc. Heck, they won't even toss you in jail for that free open hotspot you have! I hope people sleep better after having read this. Special thanks to Mike, Eric, Martha, Brent and Marty for all of the hours and hours and hours that they have put into this doc. Not to mention the money and time they put into the trip to Virginia! Great job guys (and gal), many many thanks. The deadline to be compliant is coming up in May. There are a couple of mechanisms that look like they'll allow you guys to be compliant very quickly and without going broke in the process. Image Stream has been deeply involved with this and a couple of other efforts that WISPA is working on in regards to CALEA. As is Butch Evens. Both have solutions that should work for folks if you get a warrant issued before the rest of the things we're working on are finished up. I'll release more info on what we're doing at the association level as soon as I can. Please know though, we have some very bright people deeply involved in things related to CALEA and it's impact on our businesses. The next phases will take several months though. Sincerely, Marlon K. Schafer FCC Committee Chairman www.wispa.org -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
