Re: [WISPA] tower erection question

2008-12-15 Thread eje
Wasn't it Rick Kunse (not sure spelling of last name the guy with the speed 
boat?
I just did the base for a 120ft tower. Concrete, rebar, dirt work ran $8200 
could gotten it a little cheaper but that guy was taking way to long on a 
different job so went with another company that cost a bit more but got it done 
fast and did a great job. 

That was for 10 cu feet of concrete. In a single pour into one single hole. For 
a 200ft either you have a giant slab or three piers. 

/Eje
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-Original Message-
From: Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net

Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 23:35:00 
To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower erection question


Note, At WISPCON II, I think it was Jeremy, that did a session about his 
experience installing a 200ft self standing tower, that he got put up for 
$25k, all costs included.  (allthough that is the lowest i've ever seen 
reported)

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
From: Eric Rogers ecrog...@precisionds.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 7:36 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower erection question


 That seems awful cheap to me...I would expect at least $50k or more.  A
 200' self-supporting tower cost me about $65k and I did all of the leg
 work.

 If you have a tower crew, I would expect $15k for labor, $2000 for
 earthwork, and I don't know the concrete requirements so maybe $1000,
 $3000-5000 for fencing, $7000 for lighting, $5k for paperwork and
 variances (don't forget to notify the FAA, EPA, and some Indian
 preservation group).  I figure roughly $33k just for construction.  That
 is not including a building and steel (tower price).  The paperwork is
 the hardest part to get completed.  It isn't hard work, just busy work.

 Thanks,

 Eric Rogers
 Precision Data Solutions, LLC
 (317) 831-3000 x200

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Mike Hammett
 Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 3:21 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower erection question

 So more or less a turn key tower?


 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com



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 From: chris cooper ccoo...@intelliwave.com
 Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 10:22 AM
 To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: [WISPA] tower erection question

 Ok, pretty general question I know, but does anyone have a ball park
 figure for erection of a 300' Rohn 65G - earthwork, steel and
 construction?



 Thanks

 Chris




 
 
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Re: [WISPA] tower erection question

2008-12-15 Thread Mike Hammett
That would have been Rick Kunze.  http://www.do-it-yourself-tower.com/

Where is he, anyway?  I haven't heard from him in a long itme...


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From: Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net
Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 10:35 PM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower erection question

 Note, At WISPCON II, I think it was Jeremy, that did a session about his
 experience installing a 200ft self standing tower, that he got put up for
 $25k, all costs included.  (allthough that is the lowest i've ever seen
 reported)

 Tom DeReggi
 RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
 IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


 - Original Message - 
 From: Eric Rogers ecrog...@precisionds.com
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 7:36 AM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower erection question


 That seems awful cheap to me...I would expect at least $50k or more.  A
 200' self-supporting tower cost me about $65k and I did all of the leg
 work.

 If you have a tower crew, I would expect $15k for labor, $2000 for
 earthwork, and I don't know the concrete requirements so maybe $1000,
 $3000-5000 for fencing, $7000 for lighting, $5k for paperwork and
 variances (don't forget to notify the FAA, EPA, and some Indian
 preservation group).  I figure roughly $33k just for construction.  That
 is not including a building and steel (tower price).  The paperwork is
 the hardest part to get completed.  It isn't hard work, just busy work.

 Thanks,

 Eric Rogers
 Precision Data Solutions, LLC
 (317) 831-3000 x200

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Mike Hammett
 Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 3:21 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower erection question

 So more or less a turn key tower?


 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com



 --
 From: chris cooper ccoo...@intelliwave.com
 Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 10:22 AM
 To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: [WISPA] tower erection question

 Ok, pretty general question I know, but does anyone have a ball park
 figure for erection of a 300' Rohn 65G - earthwork, steel and
 construction?



 Thanks

 Chris




 
 
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Re: [WISPA] tower erection question

2008-12-15 Thread Tom DeReggi

Nope, the presentation I was referring to was WISPCONII day 3.

Specialized - Building Your Own Tower - Learn how to select a site, pick 
the right tower, get construction approval, order all the components, and 
actually install your own communications tower. Also in this presentation 
the attendee will discover how to select the proper cell structure to cover 
those areas of interest to the WISP. Site selection based on coverage area 
desired, interference from competitors, and much more will be discussed.
Panelists: Jeremy Anthony Kinsey - CEO  Co Founder,  Bella Mia, Inc 
(Mia.Net)


Moderator: TBA


Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net

To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 10:17 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower erection question



That would have been Rick Kunze.  http://www.do-it-yourself-tower.com/

Where is he, anyway?  I haven't heard from him in a long itme...


-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com



--
From: Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net
Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 10:35 PM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower erection question


Note, At WISPCON II, I think it was Jeremy, that did a session about his
experience installing a 200ft self standing tower, that he got put up for
$25k, all costs included.  (allthough that is the lowest i've ever seen
reported)

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
From: Eric Rogers ecrog...@precisionds.com

To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 7:36 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower erection question



That seems awful cheap to me...I would expect at least $50k or more.  A
200' self-supporting tower cost me about $65k and I did all of the leg
work.

If you have a tower crew, I would expect $15k for labor, $2000 for
earthwork, and I don't know the concrete requirements so maybe $1000,
$3000-5000 for fencing, $7000 for lighting, $5k for paperwork and
variances (don't forget to notify the FAA, EPA, and some Indian
preservation group).  I figure roughly $33k just for construction.  That
is not including a building and steel (tower price).  The paperwork is
the hardest part to get completed.  It isn't hard work, just busy work.

Thanks,

Eric Rogers
Precision Data Solutions, LLC
(317) 831-3000 x200

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 3:21 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower erection question

So more or less a turn key tower?


-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com



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From: chris cooper ccoo...@intelliwave.com
Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 10:22 AM
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] tower erection question


Ok, pretty general question I know, but does anyone have a ball park
figure for erection of a 300' Rohn 65G - earthwork, steel and
construction?



Thanks

Chris








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Re: [WISPA] tower erection question

2008-12-15 Thread Mike Hammett
Odd, I swear that was Rick.  Oh well...


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From: Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 11:44 AM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower erection question

 Nope, the presentation I was referring to was WISPCONII day 3.

 Specialized - Building Your Own Tower - Learn how to select a site, pick
 the right tower, get construction approval, order all the components, and
 actually install your own communications tower. Also in this presentation
 the attendee will discover how to select the proper cell structure to 
 cover
 those areas of interest to the WISP. Site selection based on coverage area
 desired, interference from competitors, and much more will be discussed.
 Panelists: Jeremy Anthony Kinsey - CEO  Co Founder,  Bella Mia, Inc
 (Mia.Net)

 Moderator: TBA


 Tom DeReggi
 RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
 IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


 - Original Message - 
 From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 10:17 AM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower erection question


 That would have been Rick Kunze.  http://www.do-it-yourself-tower.com/

 Where is he, anyway?  I haven't heard from him in a long itme...


 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com



 --
 From: Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net
 Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 10:35 PM
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower erection question

 Note, At WISPCON II, I think it was Jeremy, that did a session about his
 experience installing a 200ft self standing tower, that he got put up 
 for
 $25k, all costs included.  (allthough that is the lowest i've ever seen
 reported)

 Tom DeReggi
 RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
 IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


 - Original Message - 
 From: Eric Rogers ecrog...@precisionds.com
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 7:36 AM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower erection question


 That seems awful cheap to me...I would expect at least $50k or more.  A
 200' self-supporting tower cost me about $65k and I did all of the leg
 work.

 If you have a tower crew, I would expect $15k for labor, $2000 for
 earthwork, and I don't know the concrete requirements so maybe $1000,
 $3000-5000 for fencing, $7000 for lighting, $5k for paperwork and
 variances (don't forget to notify the FAA, EPA, and some Indian
 preservation group).  I figure roughly $33k just for construction. 
 That
 is not including a building and steel (tower price).  The paperwork is
 the hardest part to get completed.  It isn't hard work, just busy work.

 Thanks,

 Eric Rogers
 Precision Data Solutions, LLC
 (317) 831-3000 x200

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Mike Hammett
 Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 3:21 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower erection question

 So more or less a turn key tower?


 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com



 --
 From: chris cooper ccoo...@intelliwave.com
 Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 10:22 AM
 To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: [WISPA] tower erection question

 Ok, pretty general question I know, but does anyone have a ball park
 figure for erection of a 300' Rohn 65G - earthwork, steel and
 construction?



 Thanks

 Chris




 
 
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Re: [WISPA] tower erection question

2008-12-15 Thread Tom DeReggi
My understanding is that  Rick also did a session, but it was a second one 
at a different season of WISPCON, I think.

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 12:58 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower erection question


 Odd, I swear that was Rick.  Oh well...


 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com



 --
 From: Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net
 Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 11:44 AM
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower erection question

 Nope, the presentation I was referring to was WISPCONII day 3.

 Specialized - Building Your Own Tower - Learn how to select a site, pick
 the right tower, get construction approval, order all the components, and
 actually install your own communications tower. Also in this presentation
 the attendee will discover how to select the proper cell structure to
 cover
 those areas of interest to the WISP. Site selection based on coverage 
 area
 desired, interference from competitors, and much more will be discussed.
 Panelists: Jeremy Anthony Kinsey - CEO  Co Founder,  Bella Mia, Inc
 (Mia.Net)

 Moderator: TBA


 Tom DeReggi
 RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
 IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


 - Original Message - 
 From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 10:17 AM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower erection question


 That would have been Rick Kunze.  http://www.do-it-yourself-tower.com/

 Where is he, anyway?  I haven't heard from him in a long itme...


 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com



 --
 From: Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net
 Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 10:35 PM
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower erection question

 Note, At WISPCON II, I think it was Jeremy, that did a session about 
 his
 experience installing a 200ft self standing tower, that he got put up
 for
 $25k, all costs included.  (allthough that is the lowest i've ever seen
 reported)

 Tom DeReggi
 RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
 IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


 - Original Message - 
 From: Eric Rogers ecrog...@precisionds.com
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 7:36 AM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower erection question


 That seems awful cheap to me...I would expect at least $50k or more. 
 A
 200' self-supporting tower cost me about $65k and I did all of the leg
 work.

 If you have a tower crew, I would expect $15k for labor, $2000 for
 earthwork, and I don't know the concrete requirements so maybe $1000,
 $3000-5000 for fencing, $7000 for lighting, $5k for paperwork and
 variances (don't forget to notify the FAA, EPA, and some Indian
 preservation group).  I figure roughly $33k just for construction.
 That
 is not including a building and steel (tower price).  The paperwork is
 the hardest part to get completed.  It isn't hard work, just busy 
 work.

 Thanks,

 Eric Rogers
 Precision Data Solutions, LLC
 (317) 831-3000 x200

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] 
 On
 Behalf Of Mike Hammett
 Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 3:21 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower erection question

 So more or less a turn key tower?


 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com



 --
 From: chris cooper ccoo...@intelliwave.com
 Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 10:22 AM
 To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: [WISPA] tower erection question

 Ok, pretty general question I know, but does anyone have a ball park
 figure for erection of a 300' Rohn 65G - earthwork, steel and
 construction?



 Thanks

 Chris




 
 
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Re: [WISPA] tower erection question

2008-12-15 Thread Mike Hammett
ah.  Yeah, I'm not sure if I was at WISPCON 2 or not...  3 may have been my 
earliest, actually.


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--
From: Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 1:42 PM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower erection question

 My understanding is that  Rick also did a session, but it was a second one
 at a different season of WISPCON, I think.

 Tom DeReggi
 RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
 IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


 - Original Message - 
 From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 12:58 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower erection question


 Odd, I swear that was Rick.  Oh well...


 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com



 --
 From: Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net
 Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 11:44 AM
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower erection question

 Nope, the presentation I was referring to was WISPCONII day 3.

 Specialized - Building Your Own Tower - Learn how to select a site, pick
 the right tower, get construction approval, order all the components, 
 and
 actually install your own communications tower. Also in this 
 presentation
 the attendee will discover how to select the proper cell structure to
 cover
 those areas of interest to the WISP. Site selection based on coverage
 area
 desired, interference from competitors, and much more will be discussed.
 Panelists: Jeremy Anthony Kinsey - CEO  Co Founder,  Bella Mia, Inc
 (Mia.Net)

 Moderator: TBA


 Tom DeReggi
 RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
 IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


 - Original Message - 
 From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 10:17 AM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower erection question


 That would have been Rick Kunze.  http://www.do-it-yourself-tower.com/

 Where is he, anyway?  I haven't heard from him in a long itme...


 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com



 --
 From: Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net
 Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 10:35 PM
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower erection question

 Note, At WISPCON II, I think it was Jeremy, that did a session about
 his
 experience installing a 200ft self standing tower, that he got put up
 for
 $25k, all costs included.  (allthough that is the lowest i've ever 
 seen
 reported)

 Tom DeReggi
 RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
 IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


 - Original Message - 
 From: Eric Rogers ecrog...@precisionds.com
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 7:36 AM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower erection question


 That seems awful cheap to me...I would expect at least $50k or more.
 A
 200' self-supporting tower cost me about $65k and I did all of the 
 leg
 work.

 If you have a tower crew, I would expect $15k for labor, $2000 for
 earthwork, and I don't know the concrete requirements so maybe $1000,
 $3000-5000 for fencing, $7000 for lighting, $5k for paperwork and
 variances (don't forget to notify the FAA, EPA, and some Indian
 preservation group).  I figure roughly $33k just for construction.
 That
 is not including a building and steel (tower price).  The paperwork 
 is
 the hardest part to get completed.  It isn't hard work, just busy
 work.

 Thanks,

 Eric Rogers
 Precision Data Solutions, LLC
 (317) 831-3000 x200

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 On
 Behalf Of Mike Hammett
 Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 3:21 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower erection question

 So more or less a turn key tower?


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 From: chris cooper ccoo...@intelliwave.com
 Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 10:22 AM
 To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: [WISPA] tower erection question

 Ok, pretty general question I know, but does anyone have a ball park
 figure for erection of a 300' Rohn 65G - earthwork, steel and
 construction?



 Thanks

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Re: [WISPA] tower erection question

2008-12-15 Thread Eje Gustafsson
Yeah that is right. I slept since then. Only one that I could think of was
Rick that had done one but yes Jeremy did one to I think it was at an
earlier WISPCon then Rick. I think Rick did his on WISPCon III. 

/ Eje

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 1:42 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower erection question

My understanding is that  Rick also did a session, but it was a second one 
at a different season of WISPCON, I think.

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 12:58 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower erection question


 Odd, I swear that was Rick.  Oh well...


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 --
 From: Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net
 Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 11:44 AM
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower erection question

 Nope, the presentation I was referring to was WISPCONII day 3.

 Specialized - Building Your Own Tower - Learn how to select a site, pick
 the right tower, get construction approval, order all the components, and
 actually install your own communications tower. Also in this presentation
 the attendee will discover how to select the proper cell structure to
 cover
 those areas of interest to the WISP. Site selection based on coverage 
 area
 desired, interference from competitors, and much more will be discussed.
 Panelists: Jeremy Anthony Kinsey - CEO  Co Founder,  Bella Mia, Inc
 (Mia.Net)

 Moderator: TBA


 Tom DeReggi
 RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
 IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


 - Original Message - 
 From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 10:17 AM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower erection question


 That would have been Rick Kunze.  http://www.do-it-yourself-tower.com/

 Where is he, anyway?  I haven't heard from him in a long itme...


 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com



 --
 From: Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net
 Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 10:35 PM
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower erection question

 Note, At WISPCON II, I think it was Jeremy, that did a session about 
 his
 experience installing a 200ft self standing tower, that he got put up
 for
 $25k, all costs included.  (allthough that is the lowest i've ever seen
 reported)

 Tom DeReggi
 RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
 IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


 - Original Message - 
 From: Eric Rogers ecrog...@precisionds.com
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 7:36 AM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower erection question


 That seems awful cheap to me...I would expect at least $50k or more. 
 A
 200' self-supporting tower cost me about $65k and I did all of the leg
 work.

 If you have a tower crew, I would expect $15k for labor, $2000 for
 earthwork, and I don't know the concrete requirements so maybe $1000,
 $3000-5000 for fencing, $7000 for lighting, $5k for paperwork and
 variances (don't forget to notify the FAA, EPA, and some Indian
 preservation group).  I figure roughly $33k just for construction.
 That
 is not including a building and steel (tower price).  The paperwork is
 the hardest part to get completed.  It isn't hard work, just busy 
 work.

 Thanks,

 Eric Rogers
 Precision Data Solutions, LLC
 (317) 831-3000 x200

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] 
 On
 Behalf Of Mike Hammett
 Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 3:21 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower erection question

 So more or less a turn key tower?


 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com



 --
 From: chris cooper ccoo...@intelliwave.com
 Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 10:22 AM
 To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: [WISPA] tower erection question

 Ok, pretty general question I know, but does anyone have a ball park
 figure for erection of a 300' Rohn 65G - earthwork, steel and
 construction?



 Thanks

 Chris






 
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Re: [WISPA] tower erection question

2008-12-15 Thread Tom DeReggi

Yep, Ricks session was WispCon3


Specialized - Do It Yourself Tower Installations - A Case History - This is 
a step by step trials and tribulations of one WISPs experience in erecting 
his own, large tower.


Panelists: Rick Kunze

Moderator: Jeremy Kinsey



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- Original Message - 
From: Eje Gustafsson e...@wisp-router.com

To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 2:50 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower erection question



Yeah that is right. I slept since then. Only one that I could think of was
Rick that had done one but yes Jeremy did one to I think it was at an
earlier WISPCon then Rick. I think Rick did his on WISPCon III.

/ Eje

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 1:42 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower erection question

My understanding is that  Rick also did a session, but it was a second one
at a different season of WISPCON, I think.

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net

To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 12:58 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower erection question



Odd, I swear that was Rick.  Oh well...


-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com



--
From: Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 11:44 AM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower erection question


Nope, the presentation I was referring to was WISPCONII day 3.

Specialized - Building Your Own Tower - Learn how to select a site, pick
the right tower, get construction approval, order all the components, 
and
actually install your own communications tower. Also in this 
presentation

the attendee will discover how to select the proper cell structure to
cover
those areas of interest to the WISP. Site selection based on coverage
area
desired, interference from competitors, and much more will be discussed.
Panelists: Jeremy Anthony Kinsey - CEO  Co Founder,  Bella Mia, Inc
(Mia.Net)

Moderator: TBA


Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net

To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 10:17 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower erection question



That would have been Rick Kunze.  http://www.do-it-yourself-tower.com/

Where is he, anyway?  I haven't heard from him in a long itme...


-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com



--
From: Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net
Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 10:35 PM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower erection question


Note, At WISPCON II, I think it was Jeremy, that did a session about
his
experience installing a 200ft self standing tower, that he got put up
for
$25k, all costs included.  (allthough that is the lowest i've ever 
seen

reported)

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
From: Eric Rogers ecrog...@precisionds.com

To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 7:36 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower erection question



That seems awful cheap to me...I would expect at least $50k or more.
A
200' self-supporting tower cost me about $65k and I did all of the 
leg

work.

If you have a tower crew, I would expect $15k for labor, $2000 for
earthwork, and I don't know the concrete requirements so maybe $1000,
$3000-5000 for fencing, $7000 for lighting, $5k for paperwork and
variances (don't forget to notify the FAA, EPA, and some Indian
preservation group).  I figure roughly $33k just for construction.
That
is not including a building and steel (tower price).  The paperwork 
is

the hardest part to get completed.  It isn't hard work, just busy
work.

Thanks,

Eric Rogers
Precision Data Solutions, LLC
(317) 831-3000 x200

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
On
Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 3:21 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower erection question

So more or less a turn key tower?


-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com



--
From: chris cooper ccoo...@intelliwave.com
Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 10:22 AM
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] tower erection question


Ok, pretty general question I know, but does anyone have a ball park
figure for erection of a 300' Rohn 65G - earthwork, steel and
construction

Re: [WISPA] tower erection question

2008-12-14 Thread Eric Rogers
That seems awful cheap to me...I would expect at least $50k or more.  A
200' self-supporting tower cost me about $65k and I did all of the leg
work.

If you have a tower crew, I would expect $15k for labor, $2000 for
earthwork, and I don't know the concrete requirements so maybe $1000,
$3000-5000 for fencing, $7000 for lighting, $5k for paperwork and
variances (don't forget to notify the FAA, EPA, and some Indian
preservation group).  I figure roughly $33k just for construction.  That
is not including a building and steel (tower price).  The paperwork is
the hardest part to get completed.  It isn't hard work, just busy work.

Thanks,

Eric Rogers
Precision Data Solutions, LLC
(317) 831-3000 x200

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 3:21 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower erection question

So more or less a turn key tower?


-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com



--
From: chris cooper ccoo...@intelliwave.com
Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 10:22 AM
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] tower erection question

 Ok, pretty general question I know, but does anyone have a ball park
 figure for erection of a 300' Rohn 65G - earthwork, steel and
 construction?



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Re: [WISPA] tower erection question

2008-12-14 Thread Jim Patient
Hey Chris,

There are a pile of tower guys on the yahoo tower-pro list that are 
looking for work.  You might want to hit them up for a price.  
http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/Tower-pro/

Jim

chris cooper wrote:
 Ok, pretty general question I know, but does anyone have a ball park
 figure for erection of a 300' Rohn 65G - earthwork, steel and
 construction?

  

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Re: [WISPA] tower erection question

2008-12-14 Thread lakeland
A self supporting tower is more expensive to install sue to base requirements 
and construction techniques. When I quoted installation pricing I was quoting 
concrete and steel. I am not talking about zoning, fencing, shelters, or the 
cost of lighting systems. The number I quoted is foundation with anchor points 
and putting steel up. Most crews with a gin pole can raise 300' of 65G in 3 
days. We are not talking rocket science here. And will probably do it with 3 
guys. So  3 Guys x 5 days x $800 per man is $12K. Add another $3 -$5K for 
foundation.

$20K MAYBE

Its only 65G

Bob 
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-Original Message-
From: Eric Rogers ecrog...@precisionds.com

Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 07:36:37 
To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower erection question


That seems awful cheap to me...I would expect at least $50k or more.  A
200' self-supporting tower cost me about $65k and I did all of the leg
work.

If you have a tower crew, I would expect $15k for labor, $2000 for
earthwork, and I don't know the concrete requirements so maybe $1000,
$3000-5000 for fencing, $7000 for lighting, $5k for paperwork and
variances (don't forget to notify the FAA, EPA, and some Indian
preservation group).  I figure roughly $33k just for construction.  That
is not including a building and steel (tower price).  The paperwork is
the hardest part to get completed.  It isn't hard work, just busy work.

Thanks,

Eric Rogers
Precision Data Solutions, LLC
(317) 831-3000 x200

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 3:21 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower erection question

So more or less a turn key tower?


-
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Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 10:22 AM
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] tower erection question

 Ok, pretty general question I know, but does anyone have a ball park
 figure for erection of a 300' Rohn 65G - earthwork, steel and
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Re: [WISPA] tower erection question

2008-12-14 Thread Eric Rogers
It looks like we are saying the same thing, just differently...I said
foundation and tower construction would be roughly $17-20k.  My
guestimate was for a turn-key, you provide the tower sections and when
it is complete, your antennas are in the air.  I re-read his email and
it was only for tower construction, earthwork, and steel, not for the
remainder services (though they are required for a 300' tower).

Respectfully,

Eric Rogers
Precision Data Solutions, LLC
(317) 831-3000 x200


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of lakel...@gbcx.net
Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 11:07 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower erection question

A self supporting tower is more expensive to install sue to base
requirements and construction techniques. When I quoted installation
pricing I was quoting concrete and steel. I am not talking about zoning,
fencing, shelters, or the cost of lighting systems. The number I quoted
is foundation with anchor points and putting steel up. Most crews with a
gin pole can raise 300' of 65G in 3 days. We are not talking rocket
science here. And will probably do it with 3 guys. So  3 Guys x 5
days x $800 per man is $12K. Add another $3 -$5K for foundation.

$20K MAYBE

Its only 65G

Bob 
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-Original Message-
From: Eric Rogers ecrog...@precisionds.com

Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 07:36:37 
To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower erection question


That seems awful cheap to me...I would expect at least $50k or more.  A
200' self-supporting tower cost me about $65k and I did all of the leg
work.

If you have a tower crew, I would expect $15k for labor, $2000 for
earthwork, and I don't know the concrete requirements so maybe $1000,
$3000-5000 for fencing, $7000 for lighting, $5k for paperwork and
variances (don't forget to notify the FAA, EPA, and some Indian
preservation group).  I figure roughly $33k just for construction.  That
is not including a building and steel (tower price).  The paperwork is
the hardest part to get completed.  It isn't hard work, just busy work.

Thanks,

Eric Rogers
Precision Data Solutions, LLC
(317) 831-3000 x200

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 3:21 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower erection question

So more or less a turn key tower?


-
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Subject: [WISPA] tower erection question

 Ok, pretty general question I know, but does anyone have a ball park
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Re: [WISPA] tower erection question

2008-12-12 Thread lakeland
$15-18K maybe a little less if you are out in the woods.

-B-
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Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2008 11:22:16 
To: 'WISPA General List'wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] tower erection question


Ok, pretty general question I know, but does anyone have a ball park
figure for erection of a 300' Rohn 65G - earthwork, steel and
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Re: [WISPA] tower erection question

2008-12-12 Thread Josh Luthman
Just curious - why would it be cheaper in the woods?

On 12/12/08, lakel...@gbcx.net lakel...@gbcx.net wrote:
 $15-18K maybe a little less if you are out in the woods.

 -B-
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Re: [WISPA] tower erection question

2008-12-12 Thread Mike Hammett
So more or less a turn key tower?


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