Re: [WISPA] Good Backhaul?

2005-12-23 Thread Matt Larsen - Lists
General List *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Good Backhaul? Paul, Merry Christmas Happy New Year to you and your family. How would you compare StraOS/VX to Mikrotik RouterOS? -Original Message- From: Paul Hendry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 03:52 PM To: ''WISPA

Re: [WISPA] Good Backhaul?

2005-12-23 Thread Mark Nash
- Original Message - From: Matt Larsen - Lists [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, December 23, 2005 6:20 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Good Backhaul? I would echo Pauls sentiments, exactly. StarOS has been great for me, and seems to get the most out

Re: [WISPA] Good Backhaul?

2005-12-23 Thread Ron Wallace
ROFLMAO-Original Message-From: David E. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Friday, December 23, 2005 10:29 AMTo: 'WISPA General List'Subject: Re: [WISPA] Good Backhaul?Ron Wallace wrote: That is exactly what I needed to hear, regarding the 2 OSs. Now a second Q, what is the difference

Re: [WISPA] Good Backhaul?

2005-12-23 Thread David E. Smith
Mark Nash wrote: What hardware is preferred to run the StarOS on? Most interested in the AP, but for CPE as well? The neat thing about StarOS is that it's Linux-based, so it'll probably run on just about any old computer you've got sitting in the closet. :D If your traffic will stay under,

RE: [WISPA] Good Backhaul?

2005-12-23 Thread Paul Hendry
To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Good Backhaul? Ron Wallace wrote: That is exactly what I needed to hear, regarding the 2 OSs. Now a second Q, what is the difference between the WRAP and WAR boards? In the good ole USA these days, a WAR board may take on many definitions. And since

Re: [WISPA] Good Backhaul?

2005-12-23 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
Message - From: George [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 10:22 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Good Backhaul? I do not believe you laying fiber is at all a bad sign to your customers. You have been on the cutting edge of technology

Re: [WISPA] Good Backhaul?

2005-12-23 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: John Scrivner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 8:35 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA

Re: [WISPA] Good Backhaul?

2005-12-22 Thread John Scrivner
I am seeing a future that is very much a mix of fiber, coax, wireless and twisted pair. Somewhat like it is now. I think we will see some ultra-high bandwidth roll-outs over all mediums that dwarf what we see in most situations today. I do see an emerging gravitation toward fiber / wireless as

Re: [WISPA] Good Backhaul?

2005-12-22 Thread noc.kl.terranova.net
VIA with StarOS on 5.2/5.3 will get 100Mb. WAR board might do same. - cw John Scrivner wrote: I need some feedback from the collective. I am looking for a backhaul radio link for my main tower. 5.8 Ghz is fully utilized at this location. It is only a 1500 foot shot. I would like at least 50

Re: [WISPA] Good Backhaul?

2005-12-22 Thread John Scrivner
Have you actually seen these speeds? I have never seen a Star OS installation do more than about 17 meg aggregate. If you have seen this then by all means please share the details of the actual hardware used and configuration if you do not mind. Thank you, Scriv noc.kl.terranova.net wrote:

RE: [WISPA] Good Backhaul?

2005-12-22 Thread Paul Hendry
PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Scrivner Sent: 22 December 2005 18:14 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Good Backhaul? Have you actually seen these speeds? I have never seen a Star OS installation do more than about 17 meg aggregate. If you have seen this then by all means please share

Re: [WISPA] Good Backhaul?

2005-12-21 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
Agreed, but if you can do it for 2 grand why spend 12? If the ebay radios are reliable, then skip the fiber in my opinion. Might as well take the 10 grand that is left over and install another 25 subs. ;) George wrote: I do not believe you laying fiber is at all a bad sign to your

RE: [WISPA] Good Backhaul?

2005-12-21 Thread G.Villarini
, December 21, 2005 2:34 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Good Backhaul? Agreed, but if you can do it for 2 grand why spend 12? If the ebay radios are reliable, then skip the fiber in my opinion. Might as well take the 10 grand that is left over and install another 25 subs

Re: [WISPA] Good Backhaul?

2005-12-21 Thread George
Money wise you may be right, not sure of the entire situation that john is involved with. But the focus today is on fiber. And how the community you serve perceives your company is very important. We talked about fiber in 2001 and today people still ask us when the fiber is going to be

RE: [WISPA] Good Backhaul?

2005-12-20 Thread G.Villarini
John , Youre best and cheap option here is a 38 ghz lic. Backhaul. For around $1000 or less you can buy the whole DS3 link with antennas, youll need to buy a pair of DS3 to Ethernet converters if you want Ethernet (around $1500 or less for the pair). The license lease is around $500 anually

RE: [WISPA] Good Backhaul?

2005-12-20 Thread Cliff Leboeuf
Ditto! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of G.Villarini Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 5:36 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Good Backhaul? John , Youre best and cheap option here is a 38 ghz lic. Backhaul. For around $1000

Re: [WISPA] Good Backhaul?

2005-12-20 Thread Travis Johnson
AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Good Backhaul? Hi, We have used a Terabridge 5345 (now Proxim) and have been very happy. 45mbps full duplex, 10/100 ethernet, external antenna connectors, web and snmp management, 2ms latency (even at full load), etc. The 5345 is 5.3ghz and the 5845 is 5.8ghz. The only

Re: [WISPA] Good Backhaul?

2005-12-20 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
Anytime the budget allows it I run wires. Wireless is great but there's no guarantee of service as it's unlicensed. Yes we can do a very good job by buying good gear and being smart about the design etc. But. Also, anytime you can use wires you free up valuable spectrum for ptmp

Re: [WISPA] Good Backhaul?

2005-12-20 Thread Travis Johnson
@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 5:24 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Good Backhaul? Ditto! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of G.Villarini Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 5:36 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Good Backhaul

Re: [WISPA] Good Backhaul?

2005-12-20 Thread Dylan Oliver
On 12/20/05, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A.OK.I've watch for them some but never seen any actually show up. I see you're going for one now! Good luck bidding. Best,-- Dylan OliverPrimaverity, LLC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org

RE: [WISPA] Good Backhaul?

2005-12-20 Thread Jason Lee
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Good Backhaul? Anytime the budget allows it I run wires. Wireless is great but there's no guarantee of service as it's unlicensed. Yes we can do a very good job by buying good gear and being smart about the design etc. But. Also, anytime you can use wires you free up

RE: [WISPA] Good Backhaul?

2005-12-20 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
60ghz Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC 114 S. Walnut St. Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 9:29 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Good

Re: [WISPA] Good Backhaul?

2005-12-20 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 8:23 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Good Backhaul? Search on ebay for 38ghz. There are quite

Re: [WISPA] Good Backhaul?

2005-12-20 Thread Bob Moldashel
He can do a Proxim GigaLink for $10K. Fiber interface, 1.25Gb. -B- Tom DeReggi wrote: For around $1000 a month I think you can get a 1 gbps wireless link from Gigabeam, that would work for that distance I think. Atlas has been working great for us, using 5.3 for that short distance, you

Re: [WISPA] Good Backhaul?

2005-12-20 Thread Tom DeReggi
Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Bob Moldashel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 2:54 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Good Backhaul? He can do a Proxim GigaLink for $10K. Fiber interface

Re: [WISPA] Good Backhaul?

2005-12-20 Thread Bob Moldashel
Tom DeReggi wrote: Who can do one for $10K? However, isn't Proxim's gear 60 Ghz, right? There is a big difference between the capabilties of 60Ghz vs 70Ghz of Gigabeam. 60Ghz is effected much larger by Oxygen absorbion. so... 60Ghz- reliable to half mile. 70Ghz - reliable to 2.5 miles. Tom

Re: [WISPA] Good Backhaul?

2005-12-20 Thread Jeffrey Thomas
I would second that- you can usually find good quality ( stratex for example ) used backhauls on ebay for around a few grand. - Jeff On Dec 20, 2005, at 3:35 AM, G.Villarini wrote: John , Youre best and cheap option here is a 38 ghz lic. Backhaul. For around $1000 or less you can buy

Re: [WISPA] Good Backhaul?

2005-12-19 Thread Travis Johnson
Hi, We have used a Terabridge 5345 (now Proxim) and have been very happy. 45mbps full duplex, 10/100 ethernet, external antenna connectors, web and snmp management, 2ms latency (even at full load), etc. The 5345 is 5.3ghz and the 5845 is 5.8ghz. The only issue will be the price... brand new

Re: [WISPA] Good Backhaul?

2005-12-19 Thread Tom DeReggi
For around $1000 a month I think you can get a 1 gbps wireless link from Gigabeam, that would work for that distance I think. Atlas has been working great for us, using 5.3 for that short distance, you likely can get the full 54 mbps. We are getting about 36 mbps throughout for a 14 mile link

Re: [WISPA] Good Backhaul?

2005-12-19 Thread Tom DeReggi
Broadband - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 12:20 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Good Backhaul? Hi, We have used a Terabridge 5345 (now Proxim) and have been very happy. 45mbps full duplex, 10/100

RE: [WISPA] Good Backhaul?

2005-12-19 Thread CHUCK PROFITO
Why not a laser? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Scrivner Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 9:09 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject:[WISPA] Good Backhaul? I need some feedback from the collective. I am looking for a