Re: [Wireshark-dev] Future of Wireshark's Debian packaging scripts in the main repository

2023-11-22 Thread Gerald Combs
I think this falls well within the scope of the steering committee, and would be a good first exercise. On 11/22/23 3:45 AM, Roland Knall wrote: Hi I would recommend that we bring this topic before the technical steering committee. As of right now, that committee needs to be formed in

Re: [Wireshark-dev] Future of Wireshark's Debian packaging scripts in the main repository

2023-11-22 Thread João Valverde
On 22/11/23 15:37, John Thacker wrote: On Wed, Nov 22, 2023 at 9:40 AM João Valverde wrote: There are a myriad issues I have touched upon. To recap, in my opinion, if we want to provide public shared libraries (libwireshark, wiretap, wsutil... for what I don't know) we should

Re: [Wireshark-dev] Future of Wireshark's Debian packaging scripts in the main repository

2023-11-22 Thread John Thacker
On Wed, Nov 22, 2023 at 10:37 AM John Thacker wrote: > > I think moving the packaging assets to the packaging directory and telling > people to symbolically link it to build Debian, as we've been doing, is a > relatively minor imposition for the Debian folks, but my understanding is > that the

Re: [Wireshark-dev] Future of Wireshark's Debian packaging scripts in the main repository

2023-11-22 Thread John Thacker
On Wed, Nov 22, 2023 at 9:40 AM João Valverde wrote: > > There are a myriad issues I have touched upon. To recap, in my opinion, if > we want to provide public shared libraries (libwireshark, wiretap, > wsutil... for what I don't know) we should do a better job of that > collectively as a

Re: [Wireshark-dev] Future of Wireshark's Debian packaging scripts in the main repository

2023-11-22 Thread João Valverde
On 22/11/23 14:39, João Valverde wrote: On 22/11/23 13:12, Pascal Quantin wrote: Hi Joao, Le mer. 22 nov. 2023 à 14:01, João Valverde a écrit : You are free to participate in the discussion or not. But I really don't care to wait for the new committee that is pretty much

Re: [Wireshark-dev] Future of Wireshark's Debian packaging scripts in the main repository

2023-11-22 Thread João Valverde
On 22/11/23 13:12, Pascal Quantin wrote: Hi Joao, Le mer. 22 nov. 2023 à 14:01, João Valverde a écrit : You are free to participate in the discussion or not. But I really don't care to wait for the new committee that is pretty much exactly the same as the old committee, as far

Re: [Wireshark-dev] Future of Wireshark's Debian packaging scripts in the main repository

2023-11-22 Thread João Valverde
On 22/11/23 13:23, Martin Mathieson via Wireshark-dev wrote: Pretty sure I'm not adding anything useful here, but I was only vaguely aware of debian packaging support.  If I'm sharing builds with colleagues, I use Windows packaging, or for Ubuntu we tend to set CMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX, build

Re: [Wireshark-dev] Future of Wireshark's Debian packaging scripts in the main repository

2023-11-22 Thread João Valverde
On 22/11/23 13:29, Pascal Quantin wrote: Le mer. 22 nov. 2023 à 14:25, João Valverde a écrit : On 22/11/23 13:12, Pascal Quantin wrote: Hi Joao, Le mer. 22 nov. 2023 à 14:01, João Valverde a écrit : You are free to participate in the discussion or not. But I

Re: [Wireshark-dev] Future of Wireshark's Debian packaging scripts in the main repository

2023-11-22 Thread Pascal Quantin
Le mer. 22 nov. 2023 à 14:25, João Valverde a écrit : > > On 22/11/23 13:12, Pascal Quantin wrote: > > Hi Joao, > > Le mer. 22 nov. 2023 à 14:01, João Valverde a écrit : > >> You are free to participate in the discussion or not. But I really don't >> care to wait for the new committee that is

Re: [Wireshark-dev] Future of Wireshark's Debian packaging scripts in the main repository

2023-11-22 Thread João Valverde
On 22/11/23 13:12, Pascal Quantin wrote: Hi Joao, Le mer. 22 nov. 2023 à 14:01, João Valverde a écrit : You are free to participate in the discussion or not. But I really don't care to wait for the new committee that is pretty much exactly the same as the old committee, as far as

Re: [Wireshark-dev] Future of Wireshark's Debian packaging scripts in the main repository

2023-11-22 Thread Martin Mathieson via Wireshark-dev
Pretty sure I'm not adding anything useful here, but I was only vaguely aware of debian packaging support. If I'm sharing builds with colleagues, I use Windows packaging, or for Ubuntu we tend to set CMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX, build the 'install' target and transfer it as a tarball. On Wed, Nov 22,

Re: [Wireshark-dev] Future of Wireshark's Debian packaging scripts in the main repository

2023-11-22 Thread João Valverde
So you want to discuss how to make it easier? We can do that. How do you feel about the CPack Debian Generator? On 22/11/23 12:38, Anders Broman wrote: Hi, I think that if you look at the commit history I have made my fair share of updating the list in the past. I was just trying to make

Re: [Wireshark-dev] Future of Wireshark's Debian packaging scripts in the main repository

2023-11-22 Thread Pascal Quantin
Hi Joao, Le mer. 22 nov. 2023 à 14:01, João Valverde a écrit : > You are free to participate in the discussion or not. But I really don't > care to wait for the new committee that is pretty much exactly the same as > the old committee, as far as I can tell. > > Anyway silence is another

Re: [Wireshark-dev] Future of Wireshark's Debian packaging scripts in the main repository

2023-11-22 Thread João Valverde
You are free to participate in the discussion or not. But I really don't care to wait for the new committee that is pretty much exactly the same as the old committee, as far as I can tell. Anyway silence is another Wireshark project classic. At least you tried to bring something to the

Re: [Wireshark-dev] Future of Wireshark's Debian packaging scripts in the main repository

2023-11-22 Thread Anders Broman
Hi, I think that if you look at the commit history I have made my fair share of updating the list in the past. I was just trying to make the point that some found it useful to be able to build Deb packages and it might be more fruitful to discuss how that could be made easier? I think today the

Re: [Wireshark-dev] Future of Wireshark's Debian packaging scripts in the main repository

2023-11-22 Thread Roland Knall
Hi I would recommend that we bring this topic before the technical steering committee. As of right now, that committee needs to be formed in January and this topic is exactly why we are going to have the committee in the first place. The process is in the final steps and should be finished by the

Re: [Wireshark-dev] Future of Wireshark's Debian packaging scripts in the main repository

2023-11-22 Thread João Valverde
Maybe you´d like to volunteer to maintain the Wireshark Debian assets? Since you've got the experience and actually use it? There are loads of lintian warnings waiting to be fixed, or there were until recently. Maybe you'd like to start there, and be more active staying on top of the

Re: [Wireshark-dev] Future of Wireshark's Debian packaging scripts in the main repository

2023-11-22 Thread João Valverde
Really important work there... nothing gets me out of bed like suppressing someone else's future potential needs using crappy tools and methodologies. This isn't a criticism of Debian. Use the Debian system if you like it, don't use it if you don't. It is a criticism of Debian in Wireshark,