*sigh* this was supposed to be off-list.
On Tuesday 25 November 2014 00:36:13 Peter Wu wrote:
On Monday 24 November 2014 23:45:11 Andreas Sikkema wrote:
Here's an example, a forum that I use quite frequently. When I set
Firefox to Dutch, The links for Login and Registration get translated to
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I know it's a bit late, but I felt I had a reasonable use-case:
On 06/11/14 19:54 , Guy Harris wrote:
So presumably many of the non-native-English users you know run in mixed
mode. Why do they do that?
For years I was forced by corporate IT to use the Dutch version of
Windows. It was
On Monday 24 November 2014 23:45:11 Andreas Sikkema wrote:
Here's an example, a forum that I use quite frequently. When I set
Firefox to Dutch, The links for Login and Registration get translated to
Aanmelden and Registreren. In my mind, Aanmelden and Registreren both
mean Registration. So now
On 11/07/14 11:51, Guy Harris wrote:
On Nov 7, 2014, at 5:30 AM, Fulko Hew fulko@gmail.com wrote:
Here's my take on the subject (not that it happens often) ...
Sometimes I may find myself having to use someone else's computer in
some other country. That machine has been set to the local
Thus wrote Guy Harris (g...@alum.mit.edu):
In the best of all possible worlds, the only people who would have a
reason to use something other than the system language would be people
testing translations or reproducing bugs and testing fixes
and that's definitely something that we'll have to
On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 3:58 PM, Guy Harris g...@alum.mit.edu wrote:
... snip ...
I'm *really* trying to understand the reasons why an additional select the
language
option, over and above a system select the language option, is useful,
and whether it's useful in *all* environments or only
On Nov 6, 2014, at 10:59 PM, Michal Labedzki michal.labed...@tieto.com wrote:
Ability to change language is needed. But the real question is those
names should be translated or not. For example KDE do that.
Do you mean that all the languages' names are translated into the *current*
language?
On Nov 7, 2014, at 5:30 AM, Fulko Hew fulko@gmail.com wrote:
Here's my take on the subject (not that it happens often) ...
Sometimes I may find myself having to use someone else's computer in
some other country. That machine has been set to the local country and
language and keyboard.
On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 5:37 PM, Guy Harris g...@alum.mit.edu wrote:
On Nov 6, 2014, at 10:59 PM, Michal Labedzki michal.labed...@tieto.com
wrote:
Ability to change language is needed. But the real question is those
names should be translated or not. For example KDE do that.
Do you mean
On Nov 7, 2014, at 12:23 PM, Guy Harris g...@alum.mit.edu wrote:
On Nov 7, 2014, at 12:10 PM, Alexis La Goutte alexis.lagou...@gmail.com
wrote:
You need to fix this issue... actually, it is possible to translate
the list of language...
Is there any good reason why having a list of
On Nov 7, 2014, at 12:10 PM, Alexis La Goutte alexis.lagou...@gmail.com wrote:
You need to fix this issue... actually, it is possible to translate
the list of language...
Is there any good reason why having a list of language that, for example, goes
English
French
On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 7:00 PM, Pascal Quantin pascal.quan...@gmail.com wrote:
2014-11-05 18:31 GMT+01:00 Guy Harris g...@alum.mit.edu:
On Nov 5, 2014, at 2:30 AM, Pascal Quantin pascal.quan...@gmail.com
wrote:
2014-11-05 11:12 GMT+01:00 Michal Labedzki michal.labed...@tieto.com:
In what ways is it used that its disappearance would be a big loss rather
than, at most, a minor loss?
For me: big loss
How to inform user that Wireshark support some translations if you
remove user choose of it? It will be big problem for users.
I check some applications:
assistant,
Hi,
I am also in favor of letting the user decide about language used on
runtime. Let the default language set be the system language.
One use case that is probably not so rare, is that You have a system
language that is not supported yet by Wireshark. User should be able to
choose from available
On Nov 6, 2014, at 1:32 AM, Alexis La Goutte alexis.lagou...@gmail.com wrote:
Like other no English people, i want to have the choose to select the
language on Gui.
For me, it is a not a problem to have a option to choose the language
(there is a lot of option/preference on Wireshark...)
On Nov 6, 2014, at 1:35 AM, Michal Labedzki michal.labed...@tieto.com wrote:
In what ways is it used that its disappearance would be a big loss rather
than, at most, a minor loss?
For me: big loss
How to inform user that Wireshark support some translations if you
remove user choose of
Guy Harris wrote:
but in home I want to
use Italian Wireshark and sometimes Polish/English. Set language in
GUI is really helpful.
Is the ability to set the language on a *per-application* basis, rather than
on a system-wide basis, really helpful to very many users?
It doesn't seem so to me,
I have LC_ALL=en_GB.UTF8, but KDE and Firefox set to Polish. So
Wireshark needs to be set to Polish too.
So some applications I have in Polish, other in English. I think it is
common case if you are not native English. By the way Guy, are you
native English? (what languages do you know?)
There is
Hi Guy,
What the problem to have a setting for select language ?
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On Nov 6, 2014, at 5:58 AM, Alexis La Goutte alexis.lagou...@gmail.com wrote:
What the problem to have a setting for select language ?
It's One More Setting, and clutters the preferences GUI.
If the vast majority of users would always use their system-wide language
setting, with the users
On Nov 6, 2014, at 3:57 AM, Michal Labedzki michal.labed...@tieto.com wrote:
I have LC_ALL=en_GB.UTF8, but KDE and Firefox set to Polish. So
Wireshark needs to be set to Polish too.
So some applications I have in Polish, other in English.
So why do you work in a mixed mode like that?
I
On Nov 6, 2014, at 11:04 AM, Pascal Quantin pascal.quan...@gmail.com wrote:
And as I said in an earlier email, letting a user manually select the
language in an application is common practice on Windows.
So what are some examples of applications that support this?
Hi Guy,
Right now, iTunes, SoftMaker Office, Shareaza, RealPlayer, and Google
Chrome are the most apparent examples (from memory) of relatively-popular
applications for Windows that expose a preference in their configuration
GUIs, to support changing the program language on-the-fly.
I'm sure
2014-11-06 20:33 GMT+01:00 Guy Harris g...@alum.mit.edu:
On Nov 6, 2014, at 11:04 AM, Pascal Quantin pascal.quan...@gmail.com
wrote:
And as I said in an earlier email, letting a user manually select the
language in an application is common practice on Windows.
So what are some examples
On Nov 6, 2014, at 11:44 AM, Pascal Quantin pascal.quan...@gmail.com wrote:
2014-11-06 20:33 GMT+01:00 Guy Harris g...@alum.mit.edu:
On Nov 6, 2014, at 11:04 AM, Pascal Quantin pascal.quan...@gmail.com wrote:
And as I said in an earlier email, letting a user manually select the
language
2014-11-06 21:58 GMT+01:00 Guy Harris g...@alum.mit.edu:
On Nov 6, 2014, at 11:44 AM, Pascal Quantin pascal.quan...@gmail.com
wrote:
2014-11-06 20:33 GMT+01:00 Guy Harris g...@alum.mit.edu:
On Nov 6, 2014, at 11:04 AM, Pascal Quantin pascal.quan...@gmail.com
wrote:
And as I said in
On Nov 6, 2014, at 2:47 PM, Pascal Quantin pascal.quan...@gmail.com wrote:
2014-11-06 21:58 GMT+01:00 Guy Harris g...@alum.mit.edu:
I'm *really* trying to understand the reasons why an additional select the
language option, over and above a system select the language option, is
useful,
On Nov 6, 2014, at 10:49 AM, Guy Harris g...@alum.mit.edu wrote:
If the vast majority of users would always use their system-wide language
setting, with the users who don't being, for example, developers working on
translations, and there's a way to, for example, override it with an
Ability to change language is needed. But the real question is those
names should be translated or not. For example KDE do that. KDE also
provide two options: System language (Polish); No language (standard),
where second one I assume is language in C++ code. If names will be
translated - how to
Hi Guy
The answer is yes. I live in italy, but I use linux in english. I switch to
en or it for the specific purpose of the moment. With auto-detect I could't
do that. For my daily use I switch to EN. To develop/test wireshark italian
translation I switch to IT.
I don't know if this scenario
Hi Dario,
2014-11-05 9:31 GMT+01:00 Dario Lombardo dario.lombardo...@gmail.com:
Hi Guy
The answer is yes. I live in italy, but I use linux in english. I switch to
en or it for the specific purpose of the moment. With auto-detect I could't
do that. For my daily use I switch to EN. To
On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 10:52 AM, Bálint Réczey bal...@balintreczey.hu
wrote:
Please run LC_ALL=it_IT wireshark instead of asking the project to
keep the language-switching feature.
Thanks for your suggestion.
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Please run LC_ALL=it_IT wireshark
Does it work on Windows? I do not remember to know anyone GUI
application without option to change language by GUI. Do you know how
to change locale after running application? (QEvent::LocaleChange ?)
If this is not possible then dynamic change application
2014-11-05 11:12 GMT+01:00 Michal Labedzki michal.labed...@tieto.com:
Please run LC_ALL=it_IT wireshark
Does it work on Windows? I do not remember to know anyone GUI
application without option to change language by GUI. Do you know how
to change locale after running application?
Hi Pascal,
2014-11-05 11:30 GMT+01:00 Pascal Quantin pascal.quan...@gmail.com:
2014-11-05 11:12 GMT+01:00 Michal Labedzki michal.labed...@tieto.com:
Please run LC_ALL=it_IT wireshark
Does it work on Windows? I do not remember to know anyone GUI
application without option to change
On Nov 5, 2014, at 2:30 AM, Pascal Quantin pascal.quan...@gmail.com wrote:
2014-11-05 11:12 GMT+01:00 Michal Labedzki michal.labed...@tieto.com:
Please run LC_ALL=it_IT wireshark
Does it work on Windows? I do not remember to know anyone GUI
application without option to change language by
On Nov 5, 2014, at 2:12 AM, Michal Labedzki michal.labed...@tieto.com wrote:
Please run LC_ALL=it_IT wireshark
Does it work on Windows? I do not remember to know anyone GUI
application without option to change language by GUI.
So how do developers on Windows who have their system
2014-11-05 18:31 GMT+01:00 Guy Harris g...@alum.mit.edu:
On Nov 5, 2014, at 2:30 AM, Pascal Quantin pascal.quan...@gmail.com
wrote:
2014-11-05 11:12 GMT+01:00 Michal Labedzki michal.labed...@tieto.com:
Please run LC_ALL=it_IT wireshark
Does it work on Windows? I do not remember to
I.e., are there reasons, on any platforms, to set the Language preference to
anything other than Auto-Detect? As far as I know, on all supported platforms
(Windows, OS X, UN*Xes other than OS X) the Qt system locale gets the locale
information from the appropriate place on the OS. Is there
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