RE: Witango-Talk: Studio Feature Request

2007-09-26 Thread Wolf, Gene
Hi Bill, When I want to join (Using MSSQL) across databases I use the Direct DBMS in Witango. Works just fine. I figure if I can do it in a direct DMBS that a standard select statement should do it as well. I mean, it's just generating the SQL code so if it can link between tables in the same

RE: Witango-Talk: variables getting muxed

2007-09-26 Thread WebDude
Okay... I need a cookie education then, I guess. I use cookies on some of my forums strictly to remember just a username. On this site, however, there are a bit more variables to be remembered. login lname fname password logged department security officebranch etc. etc. So, if you kind

Re: Witango-Talk: variables getting muxed

2007-09-26 Thread William M Conlon
Witango 5+ handles the setup of the session cookie containing @USERREFERENCE for you, and this is preferred over using @USERREFERENCEARGUMENT in the URL. See the old discussion threads for an explanation, but one of the reasons is to avoid 'session hijacking'. So if you eliminate

Re: Witango-Talk: variables getting muxed

2007-09-26 Thread Stefan Gonick
Session cookies are easier to set in assignment actions. View properties on the assignment action and you'll see the needed options there. Stefan At 10:21 AM 9/26/2007, you wrote: Okay... I need a cookie education then, I guess. I use cookies on some of my forums strictly to remember just a

Re: Witango-Talk: variables getting muxed

2007-09-26 Thread Roland Dumas
I'm thinking you really mean to be using user scope variables rather than cookies. On Sep 26, 2007, at 7:21 AM, WebDude wrote: Okay... I need a cookie education then, I guess. I use cookies on some of my forums strictly to remember just a username. On this site, however, there are a

RE: Witango-Talk: variables getting muxed

2007-09-26 Thread WebDude
Okay... A few more details. I am using Witango2000. Not sure if this is a problem. Also, the problem is just with this one client. I removed all the @USERREFERENCEARGUMENT tags in all urls. All users are surfing through a firewall and are showing up with the same IP address. The hijacks appear

Re: Witango-Talk: variables getting muxed

2007-09-26 Thread William M Conlon
That's very important, because the precedence of the user key was changed from T2000 to W5. But I think it's your app logic, not the userkey (cookie or @userreferenceargument: You say that you can log in as two distinct users using the same session key (cookie). You gave one example of

RE: Witango-Talk: variables getting muxed

2007-09-26 Thread Jesse Parker
I have experienced a lifetime supply of issues like this with several different technologies. In basically all cases the root cause turns out to be aggresive cacheing by the proxy. Try adding lines like this in the HTTP header: Pragma: no-cache Expires: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 12:00:00 GMT (date not

Re: Witango-Talk: variables getting muxed

2007-09-26 Thread Roland Dumas
There were ancient discussion threads on this subject, of defeating caches and preventing session hijacking. In addition to the no-cache headers, making sure the userref isn't in the URL, and such, you can also add a random variable to the URL to help defeat the proxy caches. Just add a

Re: Witango-Talk: variables getting muxed

2007-09-26 Thread Beverly Voth
I'll have to echo this advise. It solved our problems! Come to think of it, it was probably Jesse that taught me this eons ago... :D -- Beverly VothTier3 Data Web Services Group, LLC 606-864-0041 http://www.tier3web.com/xml.htm Web Design Hosting *

Re: Witango-Talk: variables getting muxed

2007-09-26 Thread Robert Garcia
Making sure the userref was not in the URL, was POST v5 fix, I don't think this will help, and maybe make worse. I don't remember all the discussions we had, but I am pretty sure, it was determined by all of our testing, with v5 plus, especially v5.5, remove from URL, but I don't think

RE: Witango-Talk: variables getting muxed

2007-09-26 Thread Scott Cadillac
My experience has been basically identical to Jesse's. Plus, from very early days with Tango 4, once I figured out how to control my HTTP headers I never used the @USERREFERENCEARGUMENT in any of my applications - and the ones that are still running today are without issue. When NOT using

RE: Witango-Talk: variables getting muxed

2007-09-26 Thread WebDude
Thanks guys. And yes, I found hundreds of posts on cookies in some of the old Tango and Witango threads. I actually learned quite a bit. As for upgrading, its not in the cards this week... However, you all make a good point and an upgrade is going to have to come soon ;-) I need to get things

RE: Witango-Talk: variables getting muxed

2007-09-26 Thread Scott Cadillac
Hi John, Yes, but just make sure there are no line-breaks inside the value attribute (other than the @CRLF's). All the best. Scott, On Wed, September 26, 2007 3:17 pm, WebDude [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Thanks guys. And yes, I found hundreds of posts on cookies in some of the old Tango and

Re: Witango-Talk: variables getting muxed

2007-09-26 Thread Ben Johansen
you might want to throw a @purgeresults just in front of that and place it in its own results action and make sure it is the first action that the taf see to ensure no other header gets sent Ben On Sep 26, 2007, at 11:17 AM, WebDude wrote: Thanks guys. And yes, I found hundreds of posts on

RE: Witango-Talk: variables getting muxed

2007-09-26 Thread WebDude
Okay... I will give this a shot. As a side note, their IT guy verified that they were caching pages on their end. He configured their firewall to not cache any requests from the site's IP or domain. I am going to add this httpheader change too and see what happens. I'll keep you all posted. And

RE: Witango-Talk: variables getting muxed

2007-09-26 Thread WebDude
How do I do that? Like this?... @purgeresults@ASSIGN local$httpHeader VALUE=Content-Type: text/html@CRLFCache-Control: no-cache, max-age=0, must-revalidate, proxy-revalidate@CRLFPragma: no-cache@CRLF@USERREFERENCECOOKIE@CRLF -Original Message- From: Ben Johansen [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: Witango-Talk: variables getting muxed

2007-09-26 Thread Ben Johansen
you could also add to the url at the end r=@random 999 999 this helps to thwart cache Ben On Sep 26, 2007, at 11:39 AM, WebDude wrote: Okay... I will give this a shot. As a side note, their IT guy verified that they were caching pages on their end. He configured their firewall to not

Re: Witango-Talk: variables getting muxed

2007-09-26 Thread Ben Johansen
yes you also need to make sure that there are 2 CRLF's at the end, so you either add another @CRLF to this and clear white space after (put cursor at end and hit delete a bunch ;-) or leave as is and delete all white space at end and then hit CRLF once. Ben On Sep 26, 2007, at 11:40 AM,

RE: Witango-Talk: variables getting muxed

2007-09-26 Thread WebDude
Well, now I am confused. I have this in a text file right now, all on one line. Are you saying I should add another @CRLF at the end and then make sure I clear all the whitespace? So it would look like this? (no line breaks)... @purgeresults@ASSIGN local$httpHeader VALUE=Content-Type:

Re: Witango-Talk: variables getting muxed

2007-09-26 Thread Ben Johansen
yeah, in html pages sent out there has to be a blank line starting with CRLF between Header and Content since you are making the header you need to provide the blank line. that is what the 2nd CRLF does Ben On Sep 26, 2007, at 12:22 PM, WebDude wrote: Well, now I am confused. I have this in

RE: Witango-Talk: variables getting muxed

2007-09-26 Thread WebDude
Okay Ben and Scott, I added the header change to several pages and checked it with a header checker. Status 200 with no errors and I see the values I changed... HTTP/1.1 200 OK = Server = Microsoft-IIS/5.0 Date = Wed, 26 Sep 2007 19:53:20 GMT X-Powered-By = ASP.NET Content-Type = text/html

Re: Witango-Talk: variables getting muxed

2007-09-26 Thread Scott Cadillac
Hi John, Remove the last @CRLF. If you read the Witango documentation, the @USERREFERENCECOOKIE metatag already includes a @CRLF. My original code was correct. Scott, On Wed, September 26, 2007 4:26 pm, Ben Johansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: yeah, in html pages sent out there has to be a

Re: Witango-Talk: variables getting muxed

2007-09-26 Thread Ben Johansen
Sorry, didn't mean any implication, just that the dbl crlf are needed that is good to know on the userrefcookie Ben On Sep 26, 2007, at 1:07 PM, Scott Cadillac wrote: Hi John, Remove the last @CRLF. If you read the Witango documentation, the @USERREFERENCECOOKIE metatag already includes a

Re: Witango-Talk: variables getting muxed

2007-09-26 Thread Scott Cadillac
No problem Ben, I had done my homework on this one a long time ago. This number of line-returns is important, because although html output will accept more than 2 line-returns between the HTTP header and the content, binary and some xml (ajax) output will not. Hope you're doing well buddy.

Witango-Talk: How can I tell Witango to use a movie stored in a NON web root ???

2007-09-26 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I have movies in a directory outside the Web-Root. How can Witango load this mowies for playing. I don't like to use as file storage http.//webroot/dir/file... I like only to use the fixed path like C:\\dir\mowie.avi otherwise everybody can read the path... Any suggestions ? regards Daniel

Witango-Talk: Translating between XML Character sets

2007-09-26 Thread Jason Schulz
We're running 5.5.0020, and having an issue with inserting UTF8 from an Ajax front end into the database via Witango. Witango appears to be converting the double byte characters into two Latin1 characters, which breaks things. Does anyone have a way of handling this? Thanks, Jason.

Re: Witango-Talk: Translating between XML Character sets

2007-09-26 Thread Robert Garcia
Try having the ajax front end, base64 the text before it gets to witango, and have the DB decode the base64 on insert. I have spent years working through text encoding issues, especially witango. I think there is also a new version of the server, or maybe its in 020, there is a