Re: [WiX-users] How can I use DefaultVersion for unversioned files?

2010-06-21 Thread Bob Arnson
On 6/19/2010 4:06 AM, Stefan Kuhr wrote:
 is it possible to use the DefaultVersion attribute for unversioned files?

No. DefaultVersion just sets the File.Version column. See the MSI SDK 
doc for the File table for limitations.

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Re: [WiX-users] Set package name dynamically

2010-06-21 Thread Bob Arnson
On 6/21/2010 5:49 PM, Matt Johnson wrote:
 Is this a safe approach?

No. It's undocumented internal MSI data. Every time somebody mucks with 
it, there's one more reason the MSI team has to waste time supporting 
broken apps instead of moving the platform forward.

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Re: [WiX-users] How to add a warning dialog?

2010-06-21 Thread Bob Arnson
On 6/21/2010 5:36 AM, Bijay Agarwal wrote:
 I have to check for the presence of a product. If the product is absent I 
 need to use a warning msg and then continue the installation without exiting.


Check the WiX setup source code; it has a warning dialog like you're 
describing.

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Re: [WiX-users] MaintenanceWelcomeDlg bitmaps

2010-06-16 Thread Bob Arnson
On 6/15/2010 4:33 AM, Óscar Alberto wrote:
 I have created a msi with customized bitmaps (the company logo and all
 that stuff). While doing a normal installation, the images looks good;
 the problem comes when I try to make a patch: the msp file continues
 using the default bitmaps.


Check a verbose log to see if the Binary table is being updated. A patch 
might not be able to update the bitmaps soon enough to be shown in the 
UI in the target .msi.

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Re: [WiX-users] Can we control registration of Components from a COM DLL

2010-06-12 Thread Bob Arnson
On 6/8/2010 1:47 AM, vijay chander wrote:
 Here i'm trying to attain functionality through COM DLL which would be
 similar to installation using the following command:
 msiexec /i sampleInstaller.msi PROPNAME=1 /qb

http://www.joyofsetup.com/2007/05/30/feature-conditions-and-ui/

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Re: [WiX-users] Odd ProcessComponents behavior in an upgrade

2010-06-12 Thread Bob Arnson
On 6/11/2010 4:05 PM, Alan Sinclair wrote:
 Unavoidably in AppV2.MSI Myfile.inf has moved to a new component, CompB,
 with new GUID.


That violates component rules, so all bets are off. 
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa367849%28VS.85%29.aspx

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Re: [WiX-users] Am I doing something wrong, or is this a bug?

2010-06-12 Thread Bob Arnson
On 6/8/2010 12:20 PM, bpackard wrote:
 embedded, the other may not be. When the Package is set to Compressed=yes
 the external file cannot be found - the msi expects it to be in the
 SourceRoot, even though it is supposed to be in a subordinate folder.

That's how MSI works with loose files in an otherwise-compressed package.

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Re: [WiX-users] Candle is ignoring preprocessor arguments

2010-06-12 Thread Bob Arnson
On 6/8/2010 6:22 PM, Adam Langley wrote:
 C:\Program Files\Windows Installer XML v3\bin\candle.exe 
 -dTasks=D:\TFSBuild\Temp\Product\Installers_v1.0_Trunk\Sources\Tasks\


Put quotes around the entire -d argument.

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Re: [WiX-users] WiX 3.0 error with .net 4

2010-06-12 Thread Bob Arnson
On 6/9/2010 9:04 PM, John Ketchpaw wrote:
 Using this config file,


WiX v3.5 contains an updated .config file for SfxCA.

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Re: [WiX-users] minor upgrade and RemoveExistingProducts

2010-06-07 Thread Bob Arnson
On 6/7/2010 8:10 AM, warne warne wrote:
 Hi, is it any way possible possible to do a minor upgrade and automatically 
 remove related products in the background?

No, that's a major upgrade.

 The scenario is I made some bug fixes to our product that dont seem to 
 warrant a major upgrade. My version numbers are only going from, say,  2.0.1 
 to 2.0.2.

http://www.joyofsetup.com/2008/12/29/neither-more-nor-less/

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Re: [WiX-users] Feature Selection Using ADLOCAL property in WiX

2010-06-07 Thread Bob Arnson
On 6/7/2010 2:48 AM, Bijay Agarwal wrote:
 Property Id=ADDLOCAL Value=ALL/


The MSI doc says you should not set ADDLOCAL to all. Use AddLocal in 
Publish elements instead. Then check a verbose log to see which features 
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Re: [WiX-users] Use a custom localization file to overwrite default for error code

2010-06-07 Thread Bob Arnson
On 6/7/2010 12:13 PM, pmarkey wrote:
 Is there a way to ensure the system will use the custom version of Error1730
 instead of the default version found in the WixUI_en-us.wxl file without
 modifying the default version directly?


Just include it without the Overridable attribute; it will override the 
one in WixUI_en-us.wxl.

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Re: [WiX-users] Optional Custom Actions?

2010-06-07 Thread Bob Arnson
On 6/7/2010 8:58 PM, Manuel Aude wrote:
 Property Id=DOTNET35SP1INSTSomeDir\dotnetfx35.exe/Property


That won't work -- you can't install the .NET Framework as a custom action.

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Re: [WiX-users] Detach Databases on Uninstall

2010-06-03 Thread Bob Arnson
On 6/2/2010 7:06 PM, Nathan Zaugg wrote:
 I think I now have some insight.  The reason I can't connect is
 because WIX detected that SQL Server was using a file that was
 included in the installation and stopped SQL Server during the
 uninstall.


WiX doesn't do that (unless you tell it to) but MSI might. Check a 
verbose log to see what happened when.

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Re: [WiX-users] Stopping/deleting a DIFxApp driver when uninstalling

2010-06-03 Thread Bob Arnson
On 6/2/2010 10:47 AM, Bruce Cran wrote:

   ServiceControl Id=sctp_service Name=Sctp Start=install Stop=both 
 Remove=uninstall/


That might work but note that MSI explicitly says it doesn't support 
drivers as services.

 The sctp service (a kernel driver) works without problems during installation 
 but it never gets stopped or removed during uninstallation.

As I recall, that's usually handled via flags in an .inf file; DifxApp 
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Re: [WiX-users] Files repaired on Modify

2010-06-02 Thread Bob Arnson
On 6/2/2010 3:25 AM, Rob Hamflett wrote:
 I'm seeing some behaviour I don't understand.  If you modify an installation, 
 but don't actually add
 or remove any features, then I thought nothing happened.  If I delete a 
 folder before the modify,
 then the installer repairs it. I'm not seeing anything in the log thought 
 that indicates why this is
 happening.

See InstallValidate logging for what MSI plans to do.
 How would I detect that the installer is actually doing something?  I have 
 conditons based on a
 feature being installed (feature=3), a feature being removed (feature=2) 
 and a feature being
 repaired (REINSTALL  feature).  This all works pretty well, but not for 
 this instance.  Would I
 have to have conditions based on the components instead?


Yes, custom actions should be declarative and use component states like 
all the MSI actions. Features are just convenient collections of 
components; when it comes to installing/repairing/etc, MSI works on the 
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Re: [WiX-users] Custom dialogs - once more

2010-05-27 Thread Bob Arnson
On 5/27/2010 5:14 AM, xx wrote:
 author a dialog with a sequence number of -1 reveals that the Wix
 publish dialog  tag refuses to take negative numbers. Unless I missed
 something, I suspect that I may probably be able to replace any dialog,
 but not the ExitDialog, UserExit and FatalError dialogs, because those
 three have negative Sequence numbers.

Take a look at the source for those dialogs; the Show element supports 
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Re: [WiX-users] Component with feature condition not actioned

2010-05-27 Thread Bob Arnson
On 5/26/2010 12:14 PM, Nick Ramirez wrote:
 Anyone know more about the -1 action state during the UI portion?


http://www.joyofsetup.com/2008/04/09/feature-states-in-component-conditions/

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Re: [WiX-users] Writing own Wix Extension

2010-04-29 Thread Bob Arnson
On 4/29/2010 3:57 AM, vunder wrote:
 this.schema =
 LoadXmlSchemaHelper(Assembly.GetExecutingAssembly(),
 Microsoft.Tools.WindowsInstallerXml.Extensions.Xsd.InterBase.xsd);

Check your extension assembly using ILDasm or Reflector to make sure the 
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Re: [WiX-users] WiX 3.5 Source Code

2010-04-29 Thread Bob Arnson
On 4/27/2010 1:56 AM, Neil Sleightholm wrote:
 Also, which do you think should work - building from the zip or cvs or
 both?
CVS

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Re: [WiX-users] PropertyRef WIX_SUITE_WH_SERVER

2010-04-29 Thread Bob Arnson
On 4/26/2010 7:18 PM, gapearce wrote:
 I think you need to check one more bit.  The example you linked to
 previously doesn't check the suite name.


It does:

if (VER_SUITE_WH_SERVER == (ovix.wSuiteMask  VER_SUITE_WH_SERVER))
{
 WcaSetIntProperty(LWIX_SUITE_WH_SERVER, 1);
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Re: [WiX-users] calling DLL function from InstallUISequence

2010-04-29 Thread Bob Arnson
On 4/27/2010 11:23 AM, glenneroo wrote:
 InstallUISequence
 Custom Action=ReadConfigFiles After=InstallDirDlg /
 Show Dialog=ServerConfigDialog After=ReadConfigFiles /
 /InstallUISequence


Once the UI sequence starts the modal wizard pages, processing is 
controlled by control events, not sequence scheduling. Use DoAction 
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Re: [WiX-users] ServiceInstall does nothing in WiX 3.5?

2010-04-29 Thread Bob Arnson
On 4/28/2010 1:35 AM, Navid Azimi-Garakani wrote:
 MSI (s) (24:DC) [22:30:46:016]: Doing action: InstallServices
 MSI (s) (24:DC) [22:30:46:016]: Note: 1: 2205 2:  3: ActionText
 Action start 22:30:46: InstallServices.
 Action ended 22:30:46: InstallServices. Return value 1.


That's the log from the script generation phase; check later in the log 
for the execution phase.
 The sequence conditions were updated as such:


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Re: [WiX-users] Multiple Versions of Features?

2010-04-29 Thread Bob Arnson
On 4/26/2010 10:42 PM, Navid Azimi-Garakani wrote:
 Is this late enough so upgrade does not modify anything outside of the 
 feature?

Yes, if none of the components in those features was updated.

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Re: [WiX-users] What does Light do?

2010-04-26 Thread Bob Arnson
On 4/26/2010 10:53 AM, Nick Ramirez wrote:
 I've looked through the source code for Light and I think I've generally got
 a good idea about the order of things. I'm just not sure we've found all the
 ways to optimize.


Difficult to say without really knowing your system. In general, 
bottom-up optimization will produce fewer gains than a design 
optimization. For example, what about using language packs? That way, 
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Re: [WiX-users] PropertyRef WIX_SUITE_WH_SERVER

2010-04-26 Thread Bob Arnson
On 4/25/2010 6:41 PM, gapearce wrote:
 Thanks for the hint, Bob.  I ran the installer and produced a log, but I
 don't see anything obviously wrong in there.  (But I'm a noob).  I ran this
 on a WH Server, using V3.0.5419 of WiX, and it prevents me from installing.


Which release of WHS? I tested the code back when I added it, and I 
believe that was in the WHS RTM timeframe. The CA uses the same code 
recommended by the SDK, so I'm not sure why it would stop working...Can 
you try it out? 
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms724451%28VS.85%29.aspx

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Re: [WiX-users] Checkbox tree for file type association

2010-04-26 Thread Bob Arnson
On 4/26/2010 2:21 AM, Lisa Gracias wrote:
 I know the Winamp installer uses NSIS, but does Wix (or rather, Windows
 Installer) have something similar that would let me create a checkbox tree?

Nope. You can get a feature tree or you can get checkboxes but not even 
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Re: [WiX-users] WiX 3.5 Source Code

2010-04-26 Thread Bob Arnson
On 4/25/2010 4:17 PM, Neil Sleightholm wrote:
 The details are here
 http://neilsleightholm.blogspot.com/2008/10/how-to-create-wix-build-mach
 ine.html, they are all broken in CVS for 3.5 and not in the binaries zip
 at all.

That's the same as in v3.0, right? Like I said, any that are missing 
from the binaries .zip file would be a bug.

 If space is the issue then either CVS needs to be fixed or the
 files should be available for download in another form. I have raised
 this as a bug before but the interest in fixing it seems to be limited.


CVS should be fixed. If v3.5 broke the fixed v3.0 binary files, please 
enter a bug for Rob.

 I realise I am in a minority of people that want to build the WiX source
 but it does suffer from works on my machine.


Well, we don't use the .zip files so we rely on users to report issues. 
We can't fix the space problem directly, but we (Rob) can fix the CVS 
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Re: [WiX-users] Multiple Versions of Features?

2010-04-26 Thread Bob Arnson
On 4/26/2010 2:22 PM, Navid Azimi-Garakani wrote:
 Is it possible to upgrade only a specific feature within an MSI?

No, but if you use late scheduling for RemoveExistingProducts, 
components that are unchanged in the upgrade product won't be modified 
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Re: [WiX-users] Speeding up Light command

2010-04-25 Thread Bob Arnson
On 4/22/2010 12:45 PM, Pally Sandher wrote:
 If only I could get the same sort of improvements out of msimsp.exe too


They don't have multiple cabs, so the same approach doesn't work.

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Re: [WiX-users] illegal MsiFileHash entries

2010-04-25 Thread Bob Arnson
On 4/23/2010 6:24 PM, Alan Sinclair wrote:
  File Id=lwf.cat CompanionFile=lwf.inf Name=lwf.cat Vital=yes
  Source=Z:\sdk\install\lwf.cat /


Can you file a bug? Companion files should be versioned files; ICE60 
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Re: [WiX-users] PropertyRef WIX_SUITE_WH_SERVER

2010-04-25 Thread Bob Arnson
Check a verbose log for the WixQueryOsInfo custom action.

On 4/22/2010 6:34 PM, gapearce wrote:
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Re: [WiX-users] WiX 3.5 Source Code

2010-04-25 Thread Bob Arnson
On 4/25/2010 8:26 AM, Neil Sleightholm wrote:
 Rob, could I suggest that as a first step we (I don't mind helping if that 
 helps) get the source zip file working? At the moment it is not complete and 
 that is why I use CVS. Also, as of 3.5.1623.0 it fails to build due to 
 missing/incorrect files.


Which? We still have the limited-space issue, which is why we 
intentionally exclude large binaries, which are available both in CVS 
and from the binaries .zip. If there are other source files missing, 
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Re: [WiX-users] heat.exe: Add attribute Win64=yes to Component elements?

2010-04-25 Thread Bob Arnson
On 4/22/2010 7:29 PM, Sascha Beaumont wrote:
 No, heat doesn't harvest 64-bit information.

 I just do a find/replace (sed would work from the command line if it
 needs scripting)

 Find: Guid=*
 Replace: Guid=* Win64=yes


If you use the -arch switch, Candle will do that for you.

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Re: [WiX-users] Light performance with cabinets and merge modules

2010-04-25 Thread Bob Arnson
On 4/21/2010 8:41 PM, Nick K wrote:
 If I create merge modules, and then place each merge module into its own .cab 
 (for the final .msi), will that tell light not to un-pack and re-pack all the 
 files?

No. Merge modules have their own embedded .cabs but their files need to 
be sequenced based on how their components are merged in.

 Or, alternately, will I see more performance improvement if I assign a 
 RAMdisk or similar?

Sure. Binding takes two kinds of resources: i/o, to collect the files 
and write them out; and CPU, if you compress the .cabs.

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Re: [WiX-users] Change Existing Service User Account

2010-04-25 Thread Bob Arnson
On 4/21/2010 7:08 AM, stevenjly...@hbosplc.com wrote:
 Will ServiceInstall 'update' an existing service?

Probably, but note that it will also uninstall the service when the 
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Re: [WiX-users] How do you extract COM registration info from a 64-bit DLL or TLB?

2010-04-25 Thread Bob Arnson
On 4/22/2010 1:08 PM, Younie, Bradford wrote:
 Now, I need to produce a 64-bit version of the same product, but I build it 
 all on a 32-bit computer. When heat tries to harvest the data from the 64-bit 
 DLL and TLB, it fails. I understand why it fails: it can't load the 64-bit 
 DLL on a 32-bit system. But is there a way around it?


Don't harvest the 64-bit component; harvest the 32-bit and use the same 
authoring compiled for 64-bit.

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Re: [WiX-users] What does Light do?

2010-04-25 Thread Bob Arnson
On 4/22/2010 1:57 PM, Nick Ramirez wrote:
 We'd like to optimize our calls to Light and any info about the order of
 things would really help.


It would also be implementation-dependent and likely to change. What are 
you looking to optimize?

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Re: [WiX-users] Speeding up Light command

2010-04-17 Thread Bob Arnson
On 4/17/2010 5:53 AM, S.P wrote:
 I want to create an install package with WiX,but light command is very very 
 slow. It takes about 5 hours to run and create the install package. My 
 install package will copy 45478 files and 2190 folder on system.So it 
 includes a large number of files to copy.Could you please help me if there is 
 anyway to speed this up, without increasing the size of the resulting file?

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Re: [WiX-users] Customizing the dialog sequencing to form loops

2010-04-17 Thread Bob Arnson
On 4/16/2010 6:43 PM, Vishwajit Walke wrote:
 LicenseDlg -  SharePointversionDlg -  SharePointWebAppPortDlg -  Initiates 
 Spawn dialog on certain condition -  PortNotAvailableDlg

  From this SpawnDialog PortNotAvailableDlg, I've two options :


 1.   Click Next To Navigate to next Custom Dialog and that is 
 SharePointAdminSetupDlg

 2.   Click Back To Return to the dialog SharePointWebAppPortDlg


A spawned dialog can't start another wizard-style sequence. It should 
simply return to go back to the dialog under the spawn.

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Re: [WiX-users] Problem with build order under MSBuild 4.0

2010-04-16 Thread Bob Arnson
On 4/14/2010 5:08 PM, Sironi, Mark wrote:
 I did some digging in the Wix2010.targets file and found the below
 target, ResolveProjectReferences.  It looks like the secondMSBuild/
 command should be invoked to actually build the project (based on the
 comments).  However when the build runs via MSBuild,
 BuildProjectReferences is blank at this point (despite being true pretty
 much everywhere else in the build), which causes the secondMSBuild/
 to get skipped.  I haven't tried it yet, but I bet if I force that task
 to run everything will work.


Please file a bug; sounds like something's getting lost somewhere.

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Re: [WiX-users] Install x64-DLL

2010-04-16 Thread Bob Arnson
On 4/16/2010 9:04 AM, Thomas Kehl wrote:
 Mmhh - this isn't a warning - ist an error - I cannot compile it with this. 
 Is there a switch, that I can handle this as a warning and ignore it?


It's not supported -- that's why it's an error. The MSI SDK is clear 
that 32-bit packages cannot contain 64-bit components.

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Re: [WiX-users] Deferred custom action creates directories in the installation directory

2010-04-16 Thread Bob Arnson
On 4/14/2010 11:07 AM, Dariel Marlow wrote:
 That's exactly why it is of concern; it doesn't remove the temp directory 
 after running. The other is not a native-code custom action, both are managed.

Probably one is run from an installed assembly and the other is in the 
Binary table? Please file a bug on the directory not getting deleted.

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Re: [WiX-users] Deferred custom action creates directories in the installation directory

2010-04-14 Thread Bob Arnson
On 4/13/2010 9:52 PM, Dariel Marlow wrote:
 I have another installer that is running with elevated privileges and its 
 deferred custom actions are executing from the windows\installer directory. I 
 can't find why one runs from the program files directory while the other runs 
 from windows installer directory. Is there a setting or a way to specify?


The other is probably a native-code custom action; MSI uses its own 
directory for temporary files. Is there a reason it matters where it 
runs from? DTF appears to always clean up the directories it creates.

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Re: [WiX-users] Uninstall problems

2010-04-14 Thread Bob Arnson
On 4/14/2010 9:26 AM, Johann Taferl, T-AU wrote:
 try using the windows installer clean up to delete the entry in your 
 software list.


Avoid MsiZap at all costs: It modifies MSI's knowledge of what's 
installed but doesn't actually remove any resources. Instead of mucking 
around with trying to clean up, just use virtual machines: 
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Re: [WiX-users] To set property with the value of another property, use a CustomAction with Property and Value attributes?!

2010-04-14 Thread Bob Arnson
On 4/14/2010 2:58 AM, Erich Nurr wrote:
 now only the defined value ( - ) will be set and not the Value of the
 Property which should be like:
 c:\Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v2.0.50727\aspnet_regiis.exe


You're not setting that property; you're setting the property 
ASPNETREGIIS. Don't confuse properties, which are an MSI concept, with 
preprocessor variables, which are a WiX concept. Let's try this from 
another angle: What are you trying to do? There might be a better way 
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Re: [WiX-users] Disable feature when feature already installed

2010-04-14 Thread Bob Arnson
On 4/13/2010 10:02 PM, puyo puy wrote:
 Thanks for your quick response.  Is that possible to detect the spelling check
 feature and display “Feature already installed” when it already installed by
 other product?


AFAIK, the feature tree control doesn't support that.

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Re: [WiX-users] Crash in Votive project build

2010-04-13 Thread Bob Arnson
On 4/13/2010 6:23 AM, John Aldridge wrote:
 That seems to have done the trick... no crashes for a week now, and we
 were getting one every few days. Thank you!

Good to know but you shouldn't have to; there's a bug lurking there. 
Could you turn on verbose MSBuild logging and capture another failure? 
That should be good enough in a bug report to get the MSBuild/Votive 
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Re: [WiX-users] Deferred custom action creates directories in the installation directory

2010-04-13 Thread Bob Arnson
On 4/13/2010 6:11 PM, Dariel Marlow wrote:
 When running the deferred custom action, a directory is created in the 
 installation directory. The log files says that the custom action is being 
 extracted to a temporary folder. Why is it not doing this in the typical temp 
 directory?


Security: It ensures that the CA DLL is run from an appropriately ACL'd 
directory, so a nonprivileged user can't overwrite a DLL that the MSI 
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Re: [WiX-users] To set property with the value of another property, use a CustomAction with Property and Value attributes?!

2010-04-13 Thread Bob Arnson
On 4/13/2010 10:43 AM, Erich Nurr wrote:
 Warning   2   The 'ASPNETREGIIS' Property contains '[ASPNETREGIIS]' 
 in its value
 which is an illegal reference to another property.  If this value is a
 string literal, not a property reference, please ignore this warning.  To
 set a property with the value of another property, use a CustomAction with
 Property and Value attributes.

 i runned the msi file and looked into the logfile and the [ASPNETREGIIS] is
 empty like the warning told it.
 How to fix this? and why it doesnt work like the code with
 ExeCommand=[ASPNETREGIIS] ?

Like the warning says, you can't do that. The reason is that the value 
of a property is a literal, while the ExeCommand attribute value is of 
type Formatted. That's required to have MSI format the string.

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Re: [WiX-users] Disable feature when feature already installed

2010-04-13 Thread Bob Arnson
On 4/13/2010 8:18 PM, puyo puy wrote:
 I got

 multiple  products that will deploy the same feature.  For example Word, 
 Excel and PowerPoint standalone MSI will deploy
 spelling check feature.  If any of these
 products already installed spelling check feature, running other products 
 setup
 will disable the spelling check feature but need to keep reference count.


That's based on components, not features. As long as you follow the 
components rules, installing a feature with the same components as 
another product is essentially a no-op except for increment the 
component reference count.

 I try the following code to disable Spelling Check feature
 when it already installed but these codes never works, Spelling Check always
 enable, even it already installed.

Because features are local to the product being installed; the feature 
hasn't been installed for this product so the install state is absent.

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Re: [WiX-users] Issue using ps:snapin versus installutil.exe

2010-04-13 Thread Bob Arnson
On 4/12/2010 10:27 AM, Michael Clark wrote:
 I have a PowerShell snapin that I'd like to use the ps:SnapIn however
 when I use it my SnapIn gets registered with the wrong name and version
 number. If I use the InstallUtil.exe program the snapin gets registered
 properly. Anyone have any Idea as to what might be wrong?


Most likely, your InstallUtil self-registration code does something 
differently. What does it look like?

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Re: [WiX-users] RegistrySearch on two properties

2010-04-13 Thread Bob Arnson
On 4/13/2010 10:38 AM, Rodney Schuler wrote:
RegistrySearch Id=TheirProductName Root=HKLM
 Key=Software\TheirCompany\TheirProduct\[THEIRCURVER]\[THEIRCURLANG]
 Name=ProductName Type=raw/RegistrySearch


You can't rely on using the results of one AppSearch in another like 
that because there's no guaranteed order to how the rows in the 
AppSearch table are processed. Some AppSearches can be chained together 
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Re: [WiX-users] Uninstall problems

2010-04-13 Thread Bob Arnson
On 4/13/2010 9:04 AM, Jeffrey Bindinga wrote:
 Where should I be looking in this case?

Verbose log. It will show you what MSI decided to do with each feature 
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Re: [WiX-users] Heat: How to generate preferred layout style?

2010-04-12 Thread Bob Arnson
On 4/11/2010 11:21 PM, jeff00seattle wrote:
 I read within some blog pertaining to WiX, is that the preferred layout
 style is to separate the definition of the directory Directory from the file
 components that are within it by using DirectoryRef, and listing the
 components within these.


For ease of authoring, which doesn't really apply to Heat.

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Re: [WiX-users] How to resolve WiX Warning: Too Many Components within Feature ?

2010-04-12 Thread Bob Arnson
On 4/12/2010 1:01 AM, Sascha Beaumont wrote:
 Are you planning to support installation on Win9x systems?

 If so, then yes you should address this warning. However if you're not
 planning to support Win9x systems you can safely ignore this
 limitation.
ICE47 is suppressed by default in WiX v3.5 -- it doesn't apply to 
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Re: [WiX-users] can we use wix 3.0.5419 release candiate for Wix 3.0 with Visual studio 2010

2010-04-12 Thread Bob Arnson
On 4/12/2010 7:48 AM, MYFLEX wrote:
 what are the steps i should follow to work with visual studio 2010?


Download WiX v3.5 from http://wix.sourceforge.net/releases/. WiX v3.0 
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Re: [WiX-users] Remove the license page

2010-04-12 Thread Bob Arnson
On 4/12/2010 7:15 AM, Pally Sandher wrote:
 No problem. It's only been posted to the list 5 times in the last 3
 months  it's only the 3rd result when searching for WiX Remove license
 dialog on Google so it's easy to never have come across it before.


Hey, it's #2 on Bing.

*http://letmebingthatforyou.com/?q=WiX Remove license dialog 
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Re: [WiX-users] How to resolve WiX Warning: Too Many Componentswithin Feature ?

2010-04-12 Thread Bob Arnson
On 4/12/2010 8:00 AM, Benjamin Podszun wrote:
 (Maybe related: Why is heat generating a component per file anyway?


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Re: [WiX-users] installlocation at runtime with customaction

2010-04-12 Thread Bob Arnson
On 4/12/2010 3:26 PM, lewisv wrote:
 I figure a custom action called after costinitialize could get the locations
 just fine. Even return the default directories as needed. My question though
 is how to organize the directory xml, and put my directories in there.

If you're setting the target directories via custom action, the 
hierarchy in your authoring doesn't matter; you'll overwrite the defaults.

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Re: [WiX-users] Version of WiX that groks .NET 4.0 assemblies?

2010-04-12 Thread Bob Arnson
On 4/12/2010 5:35 PM, Dan Thompson (SBS) wrote:
 What's the roadmap for 3.5? Like, when will it be released? I'm hesitant to 
 ship an MSI built by a non-release version of WiX.

When it's ready is the stock answer. 
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Re: [WiX-users] 64-bit WiX

2010-04-12 Thread Bob Arnson
On 4/12/2010 9:33 PM, Navid Azimi-Garakani wrote:
 I realize that this has been a long standing 
 issuehttp://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_name=9EE4B5B02235CB43ACFE2376CC2F11F0D03891%40ntxbeus04.exchange.xchg
   but I am working on getting the WiX toolset to compile and run as 64-bit 
 processes. This is necessary because we're running into a 
 BadImageFormatException when trying to invoke WiX via a 64-bit MSBuild 
 process.
How are you doing that? The shipping wix.targets already supports 64-bit 
MSBuild.

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Re: [WiX-users] Heat

2010-04-11 Thread Bob Arnson
On 4/10/2010 12:01 PM, Thomas Svare wrote:
 Thanks Bob.  We've got some dll's that support the current versions of
 MS Exchange and we only build the 64 bit versions.

Yep, that's a use case that Heat doesn't currently cover. It's only 
going to get more important as time goes on, but it's a non-trivial 
effort to port all the 32-bit native code needed. Unfortunately, 
nobody's offered to pick up the work so it stays in the queue...

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Re: [WiX-users] Changed Package/@InstallPrivileges attribute

2010-04-10 Thread Bob Arnson
On 4/9/2010 4:21 PM, Jan Bilek wrote:
 We are executing one application (as a deferred CA with Impersonate
 attribute set to 'No') during the installation process to create a
 registry key with permissions for user who started the installation.


1. Per-machine installers should avoid setting permissions based on the 
user -- how else can other users get the same functionality?
2. Don't use a custom action for that -- use 
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Re: [WiX-users] Run ca on install fail

2010-04-10 Thread Bob Arnson
On 4/9/2010 10:34 AM, Scharp, Craig wrote:
 I would like to run a custom action that runs if the install fails.  Has 
 anyone successfully done that? I f so, any suggestions would be great.


See Custom/@OnExit in WiX.chm and InstallExecuteSequence Table in the 
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Re: [WiX-users] how to use heat to harvest VS projects

2010-04-10 Thread Bob Arnson
On 4/8/2010 5:27 PM, Neil Sleightholm wrote:
 But there wouldn't be any project references as they are external
 assemblies.


OK. Feel free to file the bug; there are others in the triage team that 
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Re: [WiX-users] Searching for existing files but only once

2010-04-10 Thread Bob Arnson
On 4/9/2010 3:52 PM, Castro, Edwin G. (Hillsboro) wrote:
 Therefore, when one has a question one needs to formulate it so that the 
 question demonstrates understanding. A general format for a question is I'm 
 trying to ... I have tried ... I read that ... I don't understand why ... Can 
 you point me to ... In other words, provide the context that shows that 
 you've done your homework and that all the ideas haven't clicked yet. With 
 this context it is much easier for those of us that want to provide help to 
 do so because we understand the context better and we know what you have 
 already discovered on your own. Many times all we need to do is confirm what 
 you already thought was the case. In other cases, we can point you to other 
 documentation that can help.


I'd add that it's useful to ask about the goal you're trying to reach, 
rather than the particular solution you've chosen. It's especially 
common with MSI that the normal I'm a developer who writes code to 
solve problems approach has yielded a solution that can be accomplished 
more easily by fitting in with the MSI model. And RTFM works well there.

And, of course, here's a link to How To Ask Questions The Smart Way: 
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html. Full of snark and 
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Re: [WiX-users] Changed Package/@InstallPrivileges attribute

2010-04-10 Thread Bob Arnson
On 4/9/2010 8:15 AM, Pally Sandher wrote:
 InstallPrivileges can only be set to either limited or elevated. I'm
 assuming you mean InstallScope in which case yes that's all it does
 according to the documentation -


InstallScope controls the package elevation bit (equivalent to 
InstallPrivileges) and the ALLUSERS property. I added it because it was 
an easy mistake to set InstallPrivileges=elevated and forget to set 
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Re: [WiX-users] How to set the file properties for the MSI generated by WiX

2010-04-10 Thread Bob Arnson
On 4/8/2010 9:46 PM, Patrick van der Velde wrote:
 I've noticed that the MSI files created by WiX have some of their file
 properties (e.g. Authors, Revision number etc.) set to values that
 must be produced by WiX.  However I'm uncertain how to go about
 setting those values.

They're set by attributes in the Package element or by WiX when they 
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Re: [WiX-users] WiX cannot install certificate - Error 26352 installing certificate

2010-04-10 Thread Bob Arnson
On 4/9/2010 8:06 AM, Andy Clugston wrote:
 You sure?  Still looks closed.


I hate bad Web apps. Open now.

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Re: [WiX-users] Problems during upgrade

2010-04-10 Thread Bob Arnson
On 4/9/2010 4:41 AM, Simon wrote:
 the file: c:\users\[USER]\AppData\Local\Temp\IXP000.tmp\ is not a valid
 installation package for the product

 Does anyone have an idea what could be causing this?

Check a verbose log. Sounds like the upgrade needed the original package 
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Re: [WiX-users] Heat

2010-04-10 Thread Bob Arnson
On 4/9/2010 12:46 PM, Thomas Svare wrote:
 SelfReg.  How do I harvest registration information from 64 bit dlls?


Heat doesn't support 64-bit DLLs. Use it on the 32-bit version; unless 
it's a horribly-written DLL, the self-reg info will be essentially the 
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Re: [WiX-users] Forcing conditional feature install

2010-04-08 Thread Bob Arnson
On 4/7/2010 9:55 PM, Jeff Perrigo wrote:
 I am trying to do an admin install of an MSI with a conditional feature and I 
 need the feature to be installed regardless of the condition.

As documented, admin installs install all features except those with 
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Re: [WiX-users] Votive Missing Project Templates (VS 2008 SP1)

2010-04-08 Thread Bob Arnson
On 4/6/2010 6:31 PM, Alex Ivanoff wrote:
 3.5.1602 still no project/item templates in VS 2008 SP1.

There's no bug on that issue. Please file one with details.

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Re: [WiX-users] Wix 3.0 with VS2010

2010-04-08 Thread Bob Arnson
On 4/8/2010 6:58 AM, Rhodes, John wrote:
 Does anyone know if  there any issues or even if its possible to run Wix 3.0 
 integrated with VS2010?
No, WiX v3.0 doesn't support it. There are no breaking changes in the 
core toolset, so I'd recommend v3.5 over trying to hack bits of it into 
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Re: [WiX-users] how to use heat to harvest VS projects

2010-04-08 Thread Bob Arnson
On 4/6/2010 5:23 PM, Neil Sleightholm wrote:
 I have checked this again and using heat with the options -pog:Binaries
 -pog:Satellites -pog:Content the referenced assemblies are not
 included.

I thought they'd end up as Content.

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Re: [WiX-users] WiX cannot install certificate - Error 26352 installing certificate

2010-04-08 Thread Bob Arnson
On 4/7/2010 7:49 AM, Andy Clugston wrote:
 WixIIsExtension.dll version:  3.0.5217.0


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Re: [WiX-users] Action: 'DuplicateFiles' in InstallExecuteSequence table must come after the 'InstallFiles' action.

2010-04-08 Thread Bob Arnson
On 4/6/2010 1:04 PM, Michael Schlitt wrote:
 I believe you have make something in the Component section point to a KeyPath 
 and if there is not something in the Component Section that points to KeyPath 
 then create a Registy Key that does this for you.


This occurs when the package doesn't install any files. It's fixed in 
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Re: [WiX-users] run executable during install

2010-04-08 Thread Bob Arnson
On 4/7/2010 1:16 PM, Andrew Ziem wrote:
 My MSI installs an application called SideCIC.EXE. It needs to
 initialize a Windows Event Viewer container which can be done if I run
 'SideCIC.EXE /initialize'.

WiX includes the EventSource element to create event sources without the 
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Re: [WiX-users] how to use heat to harvest VS projects

2010-04-08 Thread Bob Arnson
On 4/8/2010 4:54 PM, Neil Sleightholm wrote:
 Afraid not, Content just includes icons, images etc (mainly useful for
 web apps). I have checked this with 3.0 and 3.5. I feel this is quite a
 big hole in the project harvester, is it worth a bug report?


You can try.g I don't think it's a bug as such, given that project 
references to those projects would still harvest their output.

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Re: [WiX-users] Launching two Processes after a WiX installation

2010-04-08 Thread Bob Arnson
On 4/8/2010 11:08 AM, Xmun wrote:
 Is there a way to launch two applications?

WiX provides the custom actions to launch one; if you want two, you need 
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Re: [WiX-users] C++ Custom Action Dll not running on Windows Server 2008 R2

2010-04-08 Thread Bob Arnson
On 4/8/2010 1:14 PM, Sam Domonkos wrote:
 I know this is not specifically WiX 3.5, but I have a custom action that
 will run on XP 32bit, Windows7 32 and 64bit, but will not run on Windows
 Server 2008 R2.

Use Dependency Walker to see if the DLL has dependencies you're not 
accounting for. Otherwise, generic advice: use a verbose log to see how 
far your code gets. (You didn't say how it fails so it's difficult to be 
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Re: [WiX-users] WiX cannot install certificate - Error 26352 installing certificate

2010-04-08 Thread Bob Arnson
On 4/8/2010 9:55 AM, Andy Clugston wrote:
 Upgrading to the RTM (5419) did not help.  Same issues.


I reopened the old bug. Please attach sample authoring and a verbose log 
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Re: [WiX-users] Annoying dialog in the beginning of installation

2010-04-05 Thread Bob Arnson
I added another request: I got a report that the bug occurs most often 
on Virtual PC virtual machines and it seems to be a common issue on 
various blogs.

On 4/4/2010 2:50 PM, Bob Arnson wrote:
 Please see http://www.joyofsetup.com/2010/04/04/bug-hunting/ for 
 details how you can help track down the bug.

 On 4/3/2010 4:58 PM, s...@pacaccess.com wrote:
 I have a similar problem.  It doesn't happen 100% of the time, and it
 doesn't have anything to do with large number of files (I only have 2 
 I'm
 installing and I've been told it's a bug).

 I haven't found a workaround so I added a custom string file
 (CustomStrings.wxl) to my project and added:

 ?xml version=1.0 encoding=utf-8?
 WixLocalization Culture=en-us
 xmlns=http://schemas.microsoft.com/wix/2006/localization;
 String Id=WaitForCostingDlgTextDue to a bug in MSI, you are now
 seeing this message.  Please ignore and continue./String
 /WixLocalization

 If anyone has a better solution, I'm all ears...


 Jeff



 On 4/2/2010 6:08 PM, Rajendra Magar wrote:
 Whenever I try to install my msi, I get a popup dialog with the 
 message
 Please wait while the installer finishes determining you disk space
 requirements. and Return button.
 This is right after I accept the terms in the License Agreement
 followed by Install. The dialog stays until I hit Return and pops
 back up when I hit Install again. The installation eventually starts
 but I have to go through the same loop of seeing the dialog and
 returning from it at least 5-7 times. Could you please tell me what
 could be causing this behavior? I have a merge module (about 250M) 
 that
 is part of the msi. Could the merge module be the reason?
 If you have a lot of files and/or components, it might take MSI a long
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Re: [WiX-users] Annoying dialog in the beginning of installation

2010-04-04 Thread Bob Arnson
Please see http://www.joyofsetup.com/2010/04/04/bug-hunting/ for details 
how you can help track down the bug.

On 4/3/2010 4:58 PM, s...@pacaccess.com wrote:
 I have a similar problem.  It doesn't happen 100% of the time, and it
 doesn't have anything to do with large number of files (I only have 2 I'm
 installing and I've been told it's a bug).

 I haven't found a workaround so I added a custom string file
 (CustomStrings.wxl) to my project and added:

 ?xml version=1.0 encoding=utf-8?
 WixLocalization Culture=en-us
 xmlns=http://schemas.microsoft.com/wix/2006/localization;
   String Id=WaitForCostingDlgTextDue to a bug in MSI, you are now
 seeing this message.  Please ignore and continue./String
 /WixLocalization

 If anyone has a better solution, I'm all ears...


 Jeff




 On 4/2/2010 6:08 PM, Rajendra Magar wrote:
  
 Whenever I try to install my msi, I get a popup dialog with the message
 Please wait while the installer finishes determining you disk space
 requirements. and Return button.
 This is right after I accept the terms in the License Agreement
 followed by Install. The dialog stays until I hit Return and pops
 back up when I hit Install again. The installation eventually starts
 but I have to go through the same loop of seeing the dialog and
 returning from it at least 5-7 times. Could you please tell me what
 could be causing this behavior? I have a merge module (about 250M) that
 is part of the msi. Could the merge module be the reason?

 If you have a lot of files and/or components, it might take MSI a long
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Re: [WiX-users] Annoying dialog in the beginning of installation

2010-04-03 Thread Bob Arnson
On 4/2/2010 6:08 PM, Rajendra Magar wrote:
 Whenever I try to install my msi, I get a popup dialog with the message 
 Please wait while the installer finishes determining you disk space 
 requirements. and Return button.
 This is right after I accept the terms in the License Agreement followed by 
 Install. The dialog stays until I hit Return and pops back up when I hit 
 Install again. The installation eventually starts but I have to go through 
 the same loop of seeing the dialog and returning from it at least 5-7 times. 
 Could you please tell me what could be causing this behavior? I have a merge 
 module (about 250M) that is part of the msi. Could the merge module be the 
 reason?

If you have a lot of files and/or components, it might take MSI a long 
time to finish costing. If you wait 10-15 seconds before clicking 
Install, do you get the same behavior?

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Re: [WiX-users] Crash in Votive project build

2010-04-03 Thread Bob Arnson
On 4/1/2010 6:55 AM, John Aldridge wrote:
 I have a Votive(MSI) project in Visual Studio which sometimes crashes
 right at the end of the build with the traceback


Try setting the RunWixToolsOutOfProc property in your .wixproj file and 
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Re: [WiX-users] First run notepad with my.cfg and only then start the service

2010-04-03 Thread Bob Arnson
On 4/1/2010 9:28 AM, Viv Coco wrote:
 shown to the user to modify as needed (I give the user the chance to
 change it by running notepad.exe with my conf file during installing)

You can't run UI during InstallExecuteSequence. You should let the user 
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Re: [WiX-users] how to use heat to harvest VS projects

2010-03-31 Thread Bob Arnson
On 3/31/2010 8:41 AM, Neil Sleightholm wrote:
 Afraid not that only gets the primary output not referenced assemblies.


Aren't they in the content output group?

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Re: [WiX-users] Bug with components which contain only XMLConfig elements?

2010-03-31 Thread Bob Arnson
On 3/31/2010 6:06 AM, Pally Sandher wrote:
 gives the same error (as expected). I can work around this simply by
 adding a RegistryValue to each component  setting it as the KeyPath for
 those components but does anyone know if this is expected behaviour or a
 bug with these types of components?

Keypaths must be resources MSI knows about. XmlConfig isn't.g So yes, 
another resource is a good idea, or including XmlConfig only in another 
component with a known keypath (e.g., a file you're modifying with 
XmlConfig).

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Re: [WiX-users] WixUI_InstallDir suggests wrong Program Files directory for norwegian version of Windows

2010-03-31 Thread Bob Arnson
On 3/30/2010 9:11 AM, Trond Andersen wrote:
 Directory Id=ProgramFilesFolder


ProgramFilesFolder provides the default. Check a verbose log to see what 
MSI thinks the Program Files folder is named.

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Re: [WiX-users] Wix 2.0: if some dll file(s) deleted, then we'll get Error 2836 in Repair mode

2010-03-31 Thread Bob Arnson
On 3/31/2010 2:31 PM, little.forest wrote:
 Actually we asked the vendor first, but they told us sorry, we don't support 
 Wix...


They don't have to support WiX, just MSI.

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Re: [WiX-users] WiX 3.0: Bug in LIGHT

2010-03-31 Thread Bob Arnson
On 3/31/2010 8:55 AM, Markus Karg wrote:
 tried to link it using LIGHT. LIGHT says that there is a duplicate in
 that fragment, so we checked the fragment. In fact, there is no
 duplicate:


What's the exact error message?

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Re: [WiX-users] Version of WiX that groks .NET 4.0 assemblies?

2010-03-31 Thread Bob Arnson
On 3/31/2010 6:50 PM, Dan Thompson (SBS) wrote:
 We are upgrading our toolset to use .NET 4.0, but I found that light.exe 
 failed, because it thought that a particular file was not a valid assembly. 
 Not surprising, since light.exe probably uses standard reflection APIs, and 
 can't grok a .NET 4.0 binary. Has anyone started building WiX for .NET 4.0?


Grab the latest WiX v3.5 build.

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Re: [WiX-users] WiX, Votive, installed files and incremental builds

2010-03-31 Thread Bob Arnson
On 3/31/2010 4:07 AM, Michael Bednarek wrote:
 However, what about keeping track of additional files like config files, text 
 files, etc for your application?

There's nothing in WiX to communicate with build systems about the 
payloads. Feel free to file a feature request -- or implement it! -- it 
would be a good feature.

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Re: [WiX-users] netfx:NativeImage action issues

2010-03-31 Thread Bob Arnson
Please keep wix-users on the thread so everyone can participate.

You can reschedule overridable custom actions by including them 
(optionally with a new condition) in your InstallExecuteSequence (and 
other *Sequence elements).

On 3/30/2010 11:13 AM, Christopher Hughes wrote:

 Hi Bob,

 You state that it is possible to disable the NativeImage action with a 
 condition by overriding it:

 /  Is it possible to disable the NativeImage action with a condition?/

 /Yes. It's overridable, so you can re-schedule NetFxScheduleNativeImage /

 /with a condition./

  I have spent some time trying to figure out how to do this, but I am 
 not getting anywhere. Do you need to modify the WIX source code or can 
 it be overridden in my WIX solution? I would  much appreciate it if 
 you could point me in the right direction.


 Regards,

 Christopher Hughes


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Re: [WiX-users] Error 2812 when Navigating Through Custom Dialogs

2010-03-29 Thread Bob Arnson
On 3/28/2010 1:40 PM, Vishwajit Walke wrote:
Publish Dialog=SharePointWebAppNameAndPortDlg Control=Back 
 Event=Newdialog Value=SharepointVersion1/Publish

...
 Note : The error description for the code 2812 is The event[2] is not 
 recognized in the Windows Installer Error Message Table.


Events are case-sensitive. You have a typo.

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Re: [WiX-users] Cndl0099 when using v3.5

2010-03-29 Thread Bob Arnson
On 3/29/2010 11:34 AM, Jeff Yates wrote:
 I had wix 3.0 installed and built four wix projects in vs 2008 sp1; 1
 library and 3 installers referencing that wixlib. I compiled alll with
 pedantic warning level. Everything worked. Now, I have installed the beta of
 3.5 and the installers fail to build, citing error cndl0099 in the
 autogenerated wixlib wxs file.

 Is this a bug or do I need to edit my source?


Hard to say. What does the authoring that causes the error look like?

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Re: [WiX-users] how to use heat to harvest VS projects

2010-03-29 Thread Bob Arnson
On 3/29/2010 3:56 PM, Neil Sleightholm wrote:
 I am afraid that is how heat works, it only finds the primary output and
 no referenced assemblies. If you want the referenced assemblies then you
 have to heat those projects or files independently.


Or use the -pog switch, right?

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Re: [WiX-users] light .h file extension shenanigans

2010-03-29 Thread Bob Arnson
On 3/29/2010 12:52 AM, si wrote:
 So it appears light is doing something funky based on the .h file
 extension. Is there any way to avoid this?


WiX includes .h files and they work. Anything else odd?

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