Re: [WiX-users] LZMA compression?

2009-11-04 Thread Sascha Beaumont
Correct, it's all due to the compression algorithm :) We use "mszip" for internal beta builds, "high" for MSI-only releases for corporate customers (as well as for the 1Mb bootstrap EXE that later downloads an MSI payload), and finally an LZMA self-extracting EXE containing an MSI with compressio

Re: [WiX-users] LZMA compression?

2009-11-03 Thread Rob Mensching
PS: The Windows Installer .PCP files requires the File/@Id and File/@Sequence to be stable during the patching process. That is why the WiX toolset sorts the way it does, it ensures the MSIs will be able to be patched. Now, IIRC, pyro is smart enough to handle the File/@Sequence changes but the Fil

Re: [WiX-users] LZMA compression?

2009-11-03 Thread Rob Mensching
The Visual Studio team building the .NET Framework made similar observations. They've done a serious amount of work to shrink the size of the .NET Framework 4.0 and I'm hoping we can get some of their observations (which seem to be identical to yours) into WiX v4.0. Also, I am investigating what i

Re: [WiX-users] LZMA compression?

2009-11-03 Thread Christopher Painter
> Actually, yes. However, even more worrisome to me are the > complaints > I've *not* received from people who simply decided it was > too big and > didn't bother downloading it. > > > Doing the simplest thing that could possibly work is > generally the > > best approach with installers. Ever not

Re: [WiX-users] LZMA compression?

2009-11-03 Thread Richard
In article <162de7480911021842v75b9ecc1j99622cf647134...@mail.gmail.com>, "Wesley W. Terpstra" writes: > On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 11:41 PM, Richard wrote: > > In article <162de7480911020831o4b123747xc933d27b4fbf8...@mail.gmail.com>, > > =A0 =A0"Wesley W. Terpstra" =A0writes: > >> [...] For

Re: [WiX-users] LZMA compression?

2009-11-02 Thread Wesley W. Terpstra
On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 11:41 PM, Richard wrote: > In article <162de7480911020831o4b123747xc933d27b4fbf8...@mail.gmail.com>, >    "Wesley W. Terpstra"  writes: >> [...] For such a big >> savings in download-time I think that's a reasonable trade-off. > > Have you been receiving complaints about do

Re: [WiX-users] LZMA compression?

2009-11-02 Thread Richard
In article <162de7480911020831o4b123747xc933d27b4fbf8...@mail.gmail.com>, "Wesley W. Terpstra" writes: > [...] For such a big > savings in download-time I think that's a reasonable trade-off. Have you been receiving complaints about download times? Doing the simplest thing that could poss

Re: [WiX-users] LZMA compression?

2009-11-02 Thread Wesley W. Terpstra
On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 7:14 PM, Pally Sandher wrote: > Could be worth feature requesting for something like Burn but taking > modern internet connections into consideration I don't see many people > being that bothered about it if they have to put that amount of effort > in to make it work. Many

Re: [WiX-users] LZMA compression?

2009-11-02 Thread Pally Sandher
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Re: [WiX-users] LZMA compression?

2009-11-02 Thread Wesley W. Terpstra
On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 3:30 PM, Pally Sandher wrote: > Try using "mszip" instead of "high" for compression on your media tag & > see if that changes the size of the cab file. It does. It becomes 99MB, i.e. bigger. > If you want your > files be installed without any extra work you're going to hav

Re: [WiX-users] LZMA compression?

2009-11-02 Thread Pally Sandher
otland Science Park, Glasgow G20 0SP Email Disclaimer -Original Message- From: Wesley W. Terpstra [mailto:wes...@terpstra.ca] Sent: 02 November 2009 03:27 To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [WiX-users] LZMA compression? I have an msi package which comes out to 77MB when compress

[WiX-users] LZMA compression?

2009-11-01 Thread Wesley W. Terpstra
I have an msi package which comes out to 77MB when compression is set to "high". Inspecting the msi file shows that the space is almost entirely consumed by the contained cab file. If I take the same files in that cab file and compress them with 7zip it comes out to 27MB. Normally I wouldn't care t