Re: [WiX-users] Multi-language installer
The Windows Installer behavior has not changed. :( On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 7:26 AM, Dave Mateer dave_mat...@ntm.org wrote: Having already done some research, it appears that single-MSI multi-language installers are not supported by Windows Installer, and thus, not by WiX. However, the latest information I could find that actually looked definitive was from 2007, and I'm wondering if there has been any progress since that time, or if perhaps there is a solution for my very simple case. 99.9% of the payload in my installer is the same between the various languages. In fact, it is being called silently from a bootstrapper so I don't even care about UI transformation. The ONLY thing that needs to be translated is the product name as it appears in Add/Remove Programs and the shortcut (including the folder), i.e.: Product Name=!(loc.ProductName)/ Package Description=!(loc.ProductName)/ Directory Id=ProgramMenuFolder Directory Id=ApplicationProgramsFolder Name=!(loc.ProductName)/ /Directory DirectoryRef Id=ApplicationProgramsFolder Component Shortcut Name=!(loc.ProductName) /Component /DirectoryRef Is there any way to officially do this without duplicating the content? I have four languages to support, and the content is over 400 MB, so it would be a real waste to create four separate installers. The language of the application itself can be switched at runtime (using localization resource files), so we really want to create one DVD with our single installer. The most helpful workarounds I found (from 2007) are: http://jpassing.com/2007/06/14/authoring-multi-language-msi-packages/ http://wix.tramontana.co.hu/tutorial/transforms/morphing-installers Is this still the state of things? Would those transforms even work with non-UI transforms? Any better ideas? Thanks, Dave -- Keep Your Developer Skills Current with LearnDevNow! The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-d2d ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users -- virtually, Rob Mensching - http://RobMensching.com LLC -- Keep Your Developer Skills Current with LearnDevNow! The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-d2d ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
Re: [WiX-users] Multi-language installer
They may not be supported but I've done it in InstallShield with and without a Setup.EXE. http://www.installsite.org/pages/en/msi/articles/embeddedlang/ The setup.exe with lanuage selection and command line passing to specify the embedded language transform to use is the officially supported technique. The only thing that really sucks IMO is that you better not modify the UI from one build to another if you are doing Minor Upgrades as you can get into some nasty cached transform problem areas. Major Upgrades work fine though. From: Rob Mensching r...@robmensching.com Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 10:20 AM To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Multi-language installer The Windows Installer behavior has not changed. :( On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 7:26 AM, Dave Mateer dave_mat...@ntm.org wrote: Having already done some research, it appears that single-MSI multi-language installers are not supported by Windows Installer, and thus, not by WiX. However, the latest information I could find that actually looked definitive was from 2007, and I'm wondering if there has been any progress since that time, or if perhaps there is a solution for my very simple case. 99.9% of the payload in my installer is the same between the various languages. In fact, it is being called silently from a bootstrapper so I don't even care about UI transformation. The ONLY thing that needs to be translated is the product name as it appears in Add/Remove Programs and the shortcut (including the folder), i.e.: Product Name=!(loc.ProductName)/ Package Description=!(loc.ProductName)/ Directory Id=ProgramMenuFolder Directory Id=ApplicationProgramsFolder Name=!(loc.ProductName)/ /Directory DirectoryRef Id=ApplicationProgramsFolder Component Shortcut Name=!(loc.ProductName) /Component /DirectoryRef Is there any way to officially do this without duplicating the content? I have four languages to support, and the content is over 400 MB, so it would be a real waste to create four separate installers. The language of the application itself can be switched at runtime (using localization resource files), so we really want to create one DVD with our single installer. The most helpful workarounds I found (from 2007) are: http://jpassing.com/2007/06/14/authoring-multi-language-msi-packages/ http://wix.tramontana.co.hu/tutorial/transforms/morphing-installers Is this still the state of things? Would those transforms even work with non-UI transforms? Any better ideas? Thanks, Dave -- Keep Your Developer Skills Current with LearnDevNow! The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-d2d ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users -- virtually, Rob Mensching - http://RobMensching.com LLC -- Keep Your Developer Skills Current with LearnDevNow! The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-d2d ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users -- Keep Your Developer Skills Current with LearnDevNow! The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-d2d ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
Re: [WiX-users] Multi-language installer
If you really only want package name and shortcut localization, it may be possible to do with a few conditions in an English MSI and some property settings. See ARPCOMMENTS ProductName etc. How will you determine what language to use, will it be passed in from your bootstrapper or based on OS settings? -Original Message- From: Rob Mensching [mailto:r...@robmensching.com] Sent: 13 March 2012 15:13 To: General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset. Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Multi-language installer The Windows Installer behavior has not changed. :( On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 7:26 AM, Dave Mateer dave_mat...@ntm.org wrote: Having already done some research, it appears that single-MSI multi-language installers are not supported by Windows Installer, and thus, not by WiX. However, the latest information I could find that actually looked definitive was from 2007, and I'm wondering if there has been any progress since that time, or if perhaps there is a solution for my very simple case. 99.9% of the payload in my installer is the same between the various languages. In fact, it is being called silently from a bootstrapper so I don't even care about UI transformation. The ONLY thing that needs to be translated is the product name as it appears in Add/Remove Programs and the shortcut (including the folder), i.e.: Product Name=!(loc.ProductName)/ Package Description=!(loc.ProductName)/ Directory Id=ProgramMenuFolder Directory Id=ApplicationProgramsFolder Name=!(loc.ProductName)/ /Directory DirectoryRef Id=ApplicationProgramsFolder Component Shortcut Name=!(loc.ProductName) /Component /DirectoryRef Is there any way to officially do this without duplicating the content? I have four languages to support, and the content is over 400 MB, so it would be a real waste to create four separate installers. The language of the application itself can be switched at runtime (using localization resource files), so we really want to create one DVD with our single installer. The most helpful workarounds I found (from 2007) are: http://jpassing.com/2007/06/14/authoring-multi-language-msi-packages/ http://wix.tramontana.co.hu/tutorial/transforms/morphing-installers Is this still the state of things? Would those transforms even work with non-UI transforms? Any better ideas? Thanks, Dave -- Keep Your Developer Skills Current with LearnDevNow! The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-d2d ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users -- virtually, Rob Mensching - http://RobMensching.com LLC - - Keep Your Developer Skills Current with LearnDevNow! The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-d2d ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users SDL PLC confidential, all rights reserved. If you are not the intended recipient of this mail SDL requests and requires that you delete it without acting upon or copying any of its contents, and we further request that you advise us. SDL PLC is a public limited company registered in England and Wales. Registered number: 02675207. Registered address: Globe House, Clivemont Road, Maidenhead, Berkshire SL6 7DY, UK. -- Keep Your Developer Skills Current with LearnDevNow! The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-d2d ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
Re: [WiX-users] Multi-language installer
Transforms are transforms - they apply to the MSI file, not just the UI. I've changed Shortcut names, custom action conditions and (I'm pretty sure) ProductName using transforms. Phil W -Original Message- From: Dave Mateer [mailto:dave_mat...@ntm.org] Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 7:26 AM To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [WiX-users] Multi-language installer Having already done some research, it appears that single-MSI multi-language installers are not supported by Windows Installer, and thus, not by WiX. However, the latest information I could find that actually looked definitive was from 2007, and I'm wondering if there has been any progress since that time, or if perhaps there is a solution for my very simple case. 99.9% of the payload in my installer is the same between the various languages. In fact, it is being called silently from a bootstrapper so I don't even care about UI transformation. The ONLY thing that needs to be translated is the product name as it appears in Add/Remove Programs and the shortcut (including the folder), i.e.: Product Name=!(loc.ProductName)/ Package Description=!(loc.ProductName)/ Directory Id=ProgramMenuFolder Directory Id=ApplicationProgramsFolder Name=!(loc.ProductName)/ /Directory DirectoryRef Id=ApplicationProgramsFolder Component Shortcut Name=!(loc.ProductName) /Component /DirectoryRef Is there any way to officially do this without duplicating the content? I have four languages to support, and the content is over 400 MB, so it would be a real waste to create four separate installers. The language of the application itself can be switched at runtime (using localization resource files), so we really want to create one DVD with our single installer. The most helpful workarounds I found (from 2007) are: http://jpassing.com/2007/06/14/authoring-multi-language-msi-packages/ http://wix.tramontana.co.hu/tutorial/transforms/morphing-installers Is this still the state of things? Would those transforms even work with non-UI transforms? Any better ideas? Thanks, Dave -- Keep Your Developer Skills Current with LearnDevNow! The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-d2d ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users *** Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail, including any associated or attached files, is intended solely for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. This e-mail is confidential and may well also be legally privileged. If you have received it in error, you are on notice of its status. Please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and then delete this message from your system. Please do not copy it or use it for any purposes, or disclose its contents to any other person. This email comes from a division of the Invensys Group, owned by Invensys plc, which is a company registered in England and Wales with its registered office at 3rd Floor, 40 Grosvenor Place, London, SW1X 7AW (Registered number 166023). For a list of European legal entities within the Invensys Group, please go to http://www.invensys.com/en/legal/default.aspx. You may contact Invensys plc on +44 (0)20 3155 1200 or e-mail recept...@invensys.com. This e-mail and any attachments thereto may be subject to the terms of any agreements between Invensys (and/or its subsidiaries and affiliates) and the recipient (and/or its subsidiaries and affiliates). -- Keep Your Developer Skills Current with LearnDevNow! The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-d2d ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
Re: [WiX-users] Multi-language installer
On 13-Mar-12 10:26, Dave Mateer wrote: 99.9% of the payload in my installer is the same between the various languages. The canonical way is to have one language-neutral installer and n language-specific installers. Is there any way to officially do this without duplicating the content? I have four languages to support, and the content is over 400 MB, so it would be a real waste to create four separate installers. Another approach is to isolate language-neutral content into a shared external .cab file, so you have n installers but no duplicated content. -- sig://boB http://joyofsetup.com/ -- Keep Your Developer Skills Current with LearnDevNow! The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-d2d ___ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
