Re: [wpkg-users] x64 - x86 mixed evironment-how to get rid of wrapper.js

2009-10-29 Thread Rainer Meier
Hi Riccardo

Riccardo Marcon wrote:
 i am going to switch to last stable wpkg to handle winxp / winxp x64
 environement: i don't want to use wrapper.js since it runs wpkg thru
 cmd.exe and this leaves cmd.exe window exposed to users. so users can
 feel free to close cmd.exe window...

There is a 64-bit version of WPKG client available. The problem when invoking
wpkg.js with 32-bit WPKG client is that invoking
%WINDIR%\System32\cscript.exe will make Windows re-directing the path to
%WINDIR%\SysWOW64\cscript.exe which contains the 32-bit binary.

The real system32 folder which contains the 64-bit binaries (damn, which sick
brain invented this re-direction...) is only accessible to 64-bit processes.
That's why you need to invoke the 64-bit cscript.exe from a real 64-bit process
(I used cmd.exe).

Alternatively you can use 64-bit WPKG client which will be able to launch the
real 64-bit process from system32\cscript.exe. In this case no wrapper is needed
at all and wpkg.js will be able to access all 64-bit paths and registry entries.

So wpkg.js fully supports 64-bit systems when cscript.exe is launched either by
64-bit WPKG client or any other 64-bit process.

br,
Rainer

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Re: [wpkg-users] How to not show WPKGMessage?

2009-10-29 Thread luca_manganelli
wpkg-users-boun...@lists.wpkg.org scritti il 28/10/2009 16.52.43

 Why would you like to disable the message box at shutdown?

Because it shows the window message everytime. And sometimes when there are
network problems (i.e. samba server down, etc) the WPKGMessage.exe remains
stuck and never closes.

 This will be the only way for keeping users from pushing the power
 button to force a shutdown.
 Aborting the installations will result in an unstable system.

No, because I will invoke a my application that shows a progress message
box, different by application.

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Re: [wpkg-users] x64 - x86 mixed evironment-how to get rid of wrapper.js

2009-10-29 Thread Riccardo Marcon
thanks Rainer,

Rainer Meier wrote:
 
 The real system32 folder which contains the 64-bit binaries (damn, which 
 sick
 brain invented this re-direction...) is only accessible to 64-bit processes.
 That's why you need to invoke the 64-bit cscript.exe from a real 64-bit 
 process
 (I used cmd.exe).

i didn't know about folder redirection...

 
 Alternatively you can use 64-bit WPKG client which will be able to launch the
 real 64-bit process from system32\cscript.exe. In this case no wrapper is 
 needed
 at all and wpkg.js will be able to access all 64-bit paths and registry 
 entries.
 

i don't use wpkg client, i am activating wpkg.js thru GPO:
anyway your suggestion is truly the easyest viable alternative, i  will
follow it.
it will be not so practical setting the layout of cmds to a minimum size
or to switch  exec with run in wrapper.js.
i will be exploring for something like rundll* hack.

thanks again
riccardo

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Re: [wpkg-users] x64 - x86 mixed evironment-how to get rid of wrapper.js

2009-10-29 Thread Pendl Stefan

 i don't use wpkg client, i am activating wpkg.js thru GPO:
 anyway your suggestion is truly the easyest viable
 alternative, i  will
 follow it.
 it will be not so practical setting the layout of cmds to a
 minimum size
 or to switch  exec with run in wrapper.js.
 i will be exploring for something like rundll* hack.

 thanks again
 riccardo


Then there is nothing to take care of, no tweaks needed at all.

The startup and logon scripts are always run in native mode, none of them is 
run in 32-bit mode on a 64-bit machine.

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[wpkg-users] Forcing a second reboot...

2009-10-29 Thread Marco Gaiarin

I'm moving in my organization from symantec corporate edition to
kaspersky as AV solution.

I'm doing some tests with WPKG, disinstalling old AV and installing new
one.
I'm using WPKG 'install on shutdown'.

I've done some test, and:

 - symantec are correctly removed
 - then, kaspersky network client got installed
 - then kaspersky AV fail saying 'reboot needed before installing'

after that, machine shut down/reboot, but at next startup... the
machine are without AV until next shutdown. I cannot keep machines an
entire day without AV... ;(((

I've tried to add to 'network agent' installation a row like:

install cmd='schtasks /create /tn KNA forced reboot /sc ONSTART /ru 
SYSTEM /tr shutdown /r /t 5 /f' /

but does not work, probably because the 'shutdown' executed on startup
are ignored (the scheduled task are correctly installed and work runned
by hand).


How can i force a reboot at next boot? ONLOGON will suffice?

Thanks.
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Re: [wpkg-users] Forcing a second reboot...

2009-10-29 Thread luca_manganelli
wpkg-users-boun...@lists.wpkg.org scritti il 29/10/2009 12.23.53

 I'm doing some tests with WPKG, disinstalling old AV and installing new
 one.
 I'm using WPKG 'install on shutdown'.

So do us.

 I've done some test, and:

 - symantec are correctly removed
 - then, kaspersky network client got installed
 - then kaspersky AV fail saying 'reboot needed before installing'

 after that, machine shut down/reboot, but at next startup... the
 machine are without AV until next shutdown. I cannot keep machines an
 entire day without AV... ;(((

 How can i force a reboot at next boot? ONLOGON will suffice?

The problem is that if you force a reboot IMMEDIATELY at the next login
screen, the WPKGMessage.exe window will remain stuck because the Windows
Network subsystem is not completely initialized.

Have you tried to launch  ...\wpkg.js /synchronize /nonotify /sendStatus ?

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Re: [wpkg-users] Forcing a second reboot...

2009-10-29 Thread Pendl Stefan

 I've tried to add to 'network agent' installation a row like:

   install cmd='schtasks /create /tn KNA forced reboot
 /sc ONSTART /ru SYSTEM /tr shutdown /r /t 5 /f' /

 but does not work, probably because the 'shutdown' executed on startup
 are ignored (the scheduled task are correctly installed and
 work runned
 by hand).


 How can i force a reboot at next boot? ONLOGON will suffice?

 Thanks.
 --

I would use ONIDLE with a delay of 5 minutes and remove the task with the 
installation of the new AV.

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