Re: [wpkg-users] Why VNC and not remote desktop? (was: Advice on remote assistance program to deploy)

2012-10-03 Thread Carlos R. Pasqualini
El mar, 02-10-2012 a las 18:29 +0200, heiko.hel...@horiba.com escribió:
  i would like to know why you install another program on windows if
 you
  have RemoteDesktop on windows and an excelente client on linux?
  
  I've made a special CD for installing XP, and it set's by default
 the
  remote access option. I combine it plus Wake on Lan capabilities and
  works great here...
  
 
 * For you to login to XP via RDP it requires the user in front of the
 PC to log out. 
 * During your session the user will only see the login screen. 
 
 This means 
 - you can't troubleshoot a user problem with the user showing you what
 went wrong 
 - you dismiss possible error screens that you were supposed to look at
 (not every user is able to mail you a screenshot - especially if mail
 isn't working ) 
 
 I know there's remote assistance available via the windows help menu
 - we tried that (because it's free!) but though it works pretty well
 once established, most times establishing the connection fails. And
 for non-expert users, it's still a bit complicated. 
 
 We used UltraVNCs QuickSupport tool for quite a while, but that
 needs a ton of bandwidth and crashes a lot. Now we're a happy
 TeamViewer customer. It just works, that's really really cool. 
 

I'm on an University, so Teamviewer is not an option (i can't rely on
such a service by security policy).

The way to support the user when they are actually using their desktops
it's a very good argument i would like to test.

As i can see, if we choose to not use RDP nor Teamviewer/Logmein/etc. we
have left only VNC.

¿which one do you recommends to do this job?

¿is there a way to authenticate with DSA/RSA or the like?


Thanks!


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Re: [wpkg-users] Why VNC and not remote desktop? (was: Advice on remote assistance program to deploy)

2012-10-03 Thread Carl van Eijk
Not free, but a great product I've used is Dameware.
http://www.dameware.com/

You could also cobble together a  very decent workable solution for free
with bginfo, vnc and remote desktop manager

BGinfo - for the user to determine their computer name/number
VNC - for the Control aspect
Remote Desktop Manager - for the central management aspect.

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb897557.aspx
http://www.tightvnc.com/
http://remotedesktopmanager.com/


Just my 2 cents.

C

On 3 October 2012 19:41, Carlos R. Pasqualini
pasquali...@fcal.uner.edu.arwrote:

 El mar, 02-10-2012 a las 18:29 +0200, heiko.hel...@horiba.com escribió:
   i would like to know why you install another program on windows if
  you
   have RemoteDesktop on windows and an excelente client on linux?
  
   I've made a special CD for installing XP, and it set's by default
  the
   remote access option. I combine it plus Wake on Lan capabilities and
   works great here...
  
 
  * For you to login to XP via RDP it requires the user in front of the
  PC to log out.
  * During your session the user will only see the login screen.
 
  This means
  - you can't troubleshoot a user problem with the user showing you what
  went wrong
  - you dismiss possible error screens that you were supposed to look at
  (not every user is able to mail you a screenshot - especially if mail
  isn't working )
 
  I know there's remote assistance available via the windows help menu
  - we tried that (because it's free!) but though it works pretty well
  once established, most times establishing the connection fails. And
  for non-expert users, it's still a bit complicated.
 
  We used UltraVNCs QuickSupport tool for quite a while, but that
  needs a ton of bandwidth and crashes a lot. Now we're a happy
  TeamViewer customer. It just works, that's really really cool.
 

 I'm on an University, so Teamviewer is not an option (i can't rely on
 such a service by security policy).

 The way to support the user when they are actually using their desktops
 it's a very good argument i would like to test.

 As i can see, if we choose to not use RDP nor Teamviewer/Logmein/etc. we
 have left only VNC.

 ¿which one do you recommends to do this job?

 ¿is there a way to authenticate with DSA/RSA or the like?


 Thanks!


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Re: [wpkg-users] Why VNC and not remote desktop? (was: Advice on remote assistance program to deploy)

2012-10-02 Thread Carlos R. Pasqualini
El lun, 01-10-2012 a las 10:52 +0200, Marco Cunico escribió:


Hi guys

i would like to know why you install another program on windows if you
have RemoteDesktop on windows and an excelente client on linux?

I've made a special CD for installing XP, and it set's by default the
remote access option. I combine it plus Wake on Lan capabilities and
works great here...

may be you have a different use case and can share with us your
experience.


Thanks!

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Re: [wpkg-users] Why VNC and not remote desktop? (was: Advice on remote assistance program to deploy)

2012-10-02 Thread heiko . helmle
 i would like to know why you install another program on windows if you
 have RemoteDesktop on windows and an excelente client on linux?
 
 I've made a special CD for installing XP, and it set's by default the
 remote access option. I combine it plus Wake on Lan capabilities and
 works great here...
 

* For you to login to XP via RDP it requires the user in front of the PC 
to log out. 
* During your session the user will only see the login screen.

This means 
- you can't troubleshoot a user problem with the user showing you what 
went wrong
- you dismiss possible error screens that you were supposed to look at 
(not every user is able to mail you a screenshot - especially if mail 
isn't working )

I know there's remote assistance available via the windows help menu - 
we tried that (because it's free!) but though it works pretty well once 
established, most times establishing the connection fails. And for 
non-expert users, it's still a bit complicated.

We used UltraVNCs QuickSupport tool for quite a while, but that needs a 
ton of bandwidth and crashes a lot. Now we're a happy TeamViewer customer. 
It just works, that's really really cool.

Best Regards
Heiko-
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