[WSG] MSN goes valid

2005-03-14 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
Today I installed a new version of HTML validator Firefox extension (http://users.skynet.be/mgueury/mozilla/) and went to search.msn.com. I got green checkmark both on the start page and on results page -- checking with validator.w3.org confirms - MSN search are now valid pages. microsoft.com

Re: [WSG] MSN goes valid

2005-03-14 Thread Jan Brasna
See http://stopdesign.com/log/2005/01/31/msn-goes-css.html -- Jan Brasna aka JohnyB :: www.alphanumeric.cz | www.janbrasna.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some

[WSG] Quoting Code Snippets - whitespace and wordwrap

2005-03-14 Thread Alan Trick
In response to the earlier conversation: Is it possible to put a css attributes on an elemtent that will respect spaces, but still wordwrap? I tried copying the textarea css in forms.css onto a test div and viewing it in firefox to se if that would do it, but firefox controls it's textarea

[WSG] Float help

2005-03-14 Thread Keith Ellis
Hi all, This is my virgin post to this group after reading many months worth of posts so hopefully somebody will give me the tweak I need here. #container #pageHeader #headerLeft (where logo is bg-image) #nav #headerRight #pageContent #pageFooter

Re: [WSG] Float help

2005-03-14 Thread Donna Jones
Keith: I'm so new at this I'm surprised to be answering, but one thing that is wrong is that you don't have a proper doc type. you have !doctype html public -//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en you need to have it with the full uri. like such !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01

Re: [WSG] Float help

2005-03-14 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Keith Ellis wrote: http://techvisioneer.com/clients/wshein/demo/admin/test/NewDesign.htm I have a fairly simple header/content/footer layout except the height of the logo in the header is greater than the desired height of the header itself. My goal is to have the logo fixed in the upper left

[WSG] Re: Float help

2005-03-14 Thread Keith Ellis
Georg, I haven't tested this yet since I'm at the day job right now but why would I need the margin style? Keith [ISO-8859-1] Gunlaug Sørtun writes: Keith Ellis wrote: http://techvisioneer.com/clients/wshein/demo/admin/test/NewDesign.htm I have a fairly simple header/content/footer layout

Re: [WSG] Re: Float help

2005-03-14 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Keith Ellis wrote: Georg, I haven't tested this yet since I'm at the day job right now but why would I need the margin style? Yes, that's what makes the whole thing work-- once you've made the changes to your html-code. Those margins are repositioning the div back to where it is in your original.

Re: [WSG] SXSW session on accessible flash on fawnyblog

2005-03-14 Thread Jan Brasna
Nice, thanx. Can someone post more links from SXSWi? I know about http://www.happycog.com/clients/sxsw/ + http://photomatt.net/2005/03/12/zeldman-keynote/ http://scribbling.net/sxsw05/ http://www.andybudd.com/sxsw05/ http://blog.fawny.org/category/events/sxsw2005/ -- Jan Brasna aka JohnyB ::

Re: [WSG] SXSW session on accessible flash on fawnyblog

2005-03-14 Thread Jan Brasna
Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/jflint/ -- Jan Brasna aka JohnyB :: www.alphanumeric.cz | www.janbrasna.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on

Re: [WSG] SXSW session on accessible flash on fawnyblog

2005-03-14 Thread Jan Brasna
http://joeclark.org/sxsw/ -- Jan Brasna aka JohnyB :: www.alphanumeric.cz | www.janbrasna.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list

RE: [WSG] Redundant Code

2005-03-14 Thread Mary Ann
Hi, Sarah- I printed out your test site because I thought it was so very clean and attractive and I wanted to study your use of styles in creating it. However, the page is wider than my printer's page size so some text is lost along the left side. For instance, Checkout in the navigation

Re[2]: [WSG] Redundant Code

2005-03-14 Thread Chris Dawes
HelloMary, use mozilla firefox : then use the "Fit to page" feature in print preview. Dawesi Tuesday,March15,2005,10:05:12AM,youwrote: Hi,Sarah- IprintedoutyourtestsitebecauseIthoughtitwassoverycleanand attractiveandIwantedtostudyyouruseofstylesincreatingit.

RE: [WSG] Redundant Code

2005-03-14 Thread Paul Novitski
At 03:05 PM 3/14/2005, Mary Ann wrote: I see you have set the container width at 760px. Does anyone know what is the maximum number of pixels for page width in order to avoid truncating the text along the left side of a print job? Even Microsoft's support pages suffer from this same

Re: [WSG] Redundant Code

2005-03-14 Thread Sigurd Magnusson
Don't know the maximum number of pixels a page can have; it very likely depends on the user agent. I would have thought the most robust way is to have a fluid design; which led me to an idea--having a fluid design only in the print media type :P I wonder if anyone's done that?? Or you could

RE: [WSG] Redundant Code

2005-03-14 Thread Jonathan Bloy
On Monday, March 14, 2005 5:44pm, Sigurd Magnusson wrote: Don't know the maximum number of pixels a page can have; it very likely depends on the user agent. I would have thought the most robust way is to have a fluid design; which led me to an idea--having a fluid design only in the print media

[WSG] ActiveMatter

2005-03-14 Thread absalom
I know this might be slightly off toic, but the CMS listserv on WSG won't allow me to subscribe: Sorry, the mailing list cms@webstandardsgroup.org does not allow subscriptions. I'm currently part of a major project to roll out the ActiveMatter CMS. Now I'm wondering if anyone has any confirmed

RE: [WSG] Redundant Code

2005-03-14 Thread Sarah Peeke (XERT)
Hi Mary Ann Seems as though everyone has pipped me to the post! I printed out your test site because I thought it was so very clean and attractive and I wanted to study your use of styles in creating it. You (and others) may be interested in the following links which have helped me with this

[WSG] CMS List

2005-03-14 Thread Peter Firminger
You are using them old command method to subscribe and this has been disabled. Log into the WSG site and change your email prefs to include the CMS list. P I know this might be slightly off toic, but the CMS listserv on WSG won't allow me to subscribe: Sorry, the mailing list

RE: [WSG] Redundant Code

2005-03-14 Thread Mary Ann
Thank you, everyone- Wow . . . you guys are great! Mary Ann -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Sarah Peeke (XERT) Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 7:13 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: RE: [WSG] Redundant Code Hi Mary Ann Seems as though

Re: [WSG] Redundant Code

2005-03-14 Thread russ - maxdesign
2. I have used a modification of one of Russ' tutorials for the #header and #subnav - to float the menu elements left and right. Is there a cleaner way to achieve this other than to apply a class to *every* li tag? The most powerful way to achieve this (but not supported by IE) would be to

Re: [WSG] Redundant Code

2005-03-14 Thread Sarah Peeke (XERT)
Hi Russ Thanks very much for your reply. The most powerful way to achieve this (but not supported by IE) would be to use adjacent sibling selectors so no classes were used at all. For example: #subnav ul li, #subnav ul li + li { background: yellow; } #subnav ul li + li + li, #subnav ul li

Re: [WSG] Redundant Code

2005-03-14 Thread russ - maxdesign
I have subsequently used display: none; on the headers. Is this OK, or would you recommend your suggestion as being more standards-based? display: none has known issues for screen readers: http://www.alistapart.com/articles/fir/ The absolute method, which I have since heard referred to as

[WSG] Asterisks in W3C spec

2005-03-14 Thread Sigurd Magnusson
I keep seeing asterisks in the W3C spec but cannot see a glossary anywhere. As an example, with the img element in xhtml 1.1, the attributes 'src' and 'alt' are both marked with an asterisk. Why? http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml-modularization/abstract_modules.html#s_imagemodule (I realise img is

Re: [WSG] Asterisks in W3C spec

2005-03-14 Thread russ - maxdesign
Here are some: Joe Clark's serialised book (covers all three - title, alt and longdesc) http://joeclark.org/book/sashay/serialization/Chapter06.html Writing good ALT text (covers all three - title, alt and longdesc) http://www.gawds.org/show.php?contentid=28 The alt and title attributes (covers

[WSG] SXSW session on accessible flash on fawnyblog

2005-03-14 Thread Rebecca Cox
http://blog.fawny.org/2005/03/13/sxsw2005-13d/ Transcript, commentary on first 30 mins or so of chat on accessible flash.. Wish I could've gone to SXSW! ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See