Re: [WSG] Unstyling named anchors

2005-10-31 Thread Mordechai Peller
Paul Noone wrote: I'd tinkered with a[name]:hover but I'm loathe to create a style for this. I don't think hiding them is th eoption either. Why not use a class () as a[name] doesn't yet work on IE, never mind any browser which doesn't understand jumping to an id. ***

Re: [WSG] Unstyling named anchors

2005-10-31 Thread Mordechai Peller
Gez Lemon wrote: The name attribute is formerly deprecated for...form...in XHTML 1.0, and deleted from XHTML 1.1. From , yes, but not from the various form elements such as , where it may in fact be required for proper functioning, though "valid" without. While I'm sure most of you know this,

Re: [WSG] Opera list positioning oddity

2005-10-31 Thread Joshua Street
Ah, no, nevermind. Managed to solve it just after I sent this :$ http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=96966 pointed me in the right direction... getting rid of position:fixed on #prinav li worked (leftover from an earlier iteration). I don't know if this bug has a name, though... jus

[WSG] Opera list positioning oddity

2005-10-31 Thread Joshua Street
Hi all, Just done on a site that is near-pixel perfect in (I think) everything but Opera, which does something weird with the nav (rendering the site unusable). I have absolutely no idea why, though. IE was showing some quirky behaviours but I managed to make Firefox (and Konqueror) display in th

RE: [WSG] Unstyling named anchors

2005-10-31 Thread Geoff Pack
Martin J. Lambert wrote: > Actually, when using XHTML Strict, "name" is not a valid attribute for > anchors. You can use the "id" attribute to get the same jump-to-that- > section-of-the-page behaviour, but this will work with *any* element, > not just anchors. Since you don't want the appearanc

Re: [WSG] to border or not to border, that is the question

2005-10-31 Thread heretic
Hi, > However, today I disabled styles on a fairly complicated table and realized > it made very little sense without any demarcation between the cells. > It would be simple enough to do http://www.200ok.com.au/> --- The future has arrived; it's just not --- evenly distributed. - William Gibson **

Re: [WSG] to border or not to border, that is the question

2005-10-31 Thread Christian Montoya
> > It would be simple enough to do And table, td, th, thead, tbody, tfoot {border:none;} > > And then add them back as needed. > > What do you think? Is it a good idea? Should I turn around and run away from > adding some presentational markup in my pages? I think it's find to have border="1" in

Re: [WSG] help on making this link validate

2005-10-31 Thread csslist
thanks,the way its written im not sure if i can or not, i will try though :)From: "Patrick H. Lauke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 6:30 PMTo: wsg@webstandardsgroup.orgSubject: Re: [WSG] help on making this link validatecsslist wrote:> I need to get this email link to validate, i

RE: [WSG] help on making this link validate

2005-10-31 Thread Paul Noone
You could just try hex encoding the address. There are several utilities available that will convert an email (or any other address) to its hexadecimal value. It's not bulletproof but, then, what is. And it validates.   FYI, Smarty (PHP template system) has this built-in. From: [EMAIL PROT

Re: [WSG] help on making this link validate

2005-10-31 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
csslist wrote: I need to get this email link to validate, i am using a coldfusion function to do this and I tried encoding it to a url safe line (urlencodedformat) but jacks it, any other ideas? or any good ideas for hiding emails from spammers that can use a dynamic email address.. http://

Re: [WSG] Unstyling named anchors

2005-10-31 Thread Thierry Koblentz
Paul Noone wrote: > Well now I'm totally confused. Ah...can anyone spell Dreamweaver? :\ > a-HEM. Big sorry there. > >> What make you think you can't leave them empty? > > Assumptions based on a code rewrite. Is that not the case? In which > case can it be self-containg and self-closing too? > >

[WSG] help on making this link validate

2005-10-31 Thread csslist
I need to get this email link to validate, i am using a coldfusion function to do this and I tried encoding it to a url safe  line (urlencodedformat) but jacks it, any other ideas?or any good ideas for hiding emails from spammers that can use a dynamic email address..http://65.36.226.10/content/con

Re: [WSG] Unstyling named anchors

2005-10-31 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
Gez Lemon wrote: The name attribute is formerly deprecated for a, applet, form, frame, iframe, img, and map in XHTML 1.0, and deleted from XHTML 1.1. I stand (well, sit) corrected. I meant deleted, but said deprecated...d'oh! P -- Patrick H. Lauke _

Re: [WSG] Unstyling named anchors

2005-10-31 Thread Thierry Koblentz
Patrick H. Lauke wrote: > Damien Hill wrote: >> For IE and Firefox on PC, the styles I apply to a:link don't effect >> anchors. > > Because is not a :link, but a local anchor, > whereas a more generic "a" style selector will include those as well. > So yes, a simple way to avoid issues is to jus

Re: [WSG] Unstyling named anchors

2005-10-31 Thread Gez Lemon
On 31/10/05, Patrick H. Lauke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thierry Koblentz wrote: > > > "name" is used for old browsers. And I'm pretty sure it validates against a > > Strict DTD (HTML or XHTML 1.0). > > Please correct me if I'm wrong here... > > No, you're indeed correct. Up to XHTML 1.0 Strict i

RE: [WSG] Unstyling named anchors

2005-10-31 Thread Paul Noone
Well now I'm totally confused. Ah...can anyone spell Dreamweaver? :\ a-HEM. Big sorry there. > What make you think you can't leave them empty? Assumptions based on a code rewrite. Is that not the case? In which case can it be self-containg and self-closing too? I'm sure I ran into problems wit

Re: [WSG] Unstyling named anchors

2005-10-31 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
Damien Hill wrote: For IE and Firefox on PC, the styles I apply to a:link don't effect anchors. Because is not a :link, but a local anchor, whereas a more generic "a" style selector will include those as well. So yes, a simple way to avoid issues is to just define a:link, a:visited etc, lea

RE: [WSG] Unstyling named anchors

2005-10-31 Thread Damien Hill
For IE and Firefox on PC, the styles I apply to a:link don't effect anchors. See example > http://www.damienhill.com/tests/links/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Noone Sent: Tuesday, 1 November 2005 7:52 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.o

Re: [WSG] Unstyling named anchors

2005-10-31 Thread Thierry Koblentz
Paul Noone wrote: > The reason I've run into this little problem is because, unlike HTML, > XHTML seems to require that the tag surrounds some text. Perhaps > an   would do it? What make you think you can't leave them empty? > How are other people preventing this, apart from hiding their anchor

RE: [WSG] Unstyling named anchors

2005-10-31 Thread Paul Noone
Thanks guys. Patrick is right. I'd already validated the code and it came up fine. The reason I've run into this little problem is because, unlike HTML, XHTML seems to require that the tag surrounds some text. Perhaps an   would do it? The named anchor is picking up the color of the a:link style

Re: [WSG] Unstyling named anchors

2005-10-31 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
Thierry Koblentz wrote: "name" is used for old browsers. And I'm pretty sure it validates against a Strict DTD (HTML or XHTML 1.0). Please correct me if I'm wrong here... No, you're indeed correct. Up to XHTML 1.0 Strict it's perfectly valid to use the name attribute on anchors. It's only XHT

Re: [WSG] Unstyling named anchors

2005-10-31 Thread Thierry Koblentz
Martin J. Lambert wrote: >> From: Thierry Koblentz >> I'm not sure about that, I think it is better to use both attributes >> and may be even "more" to prevent a IE bug related to tabbing >> navigation. http://www.motive.co.nz/glossary/anchor.php >> http://www.juicystudio.com/article/ie-keyboard-na

[WSG] to border or not to border, that is the question

2005-10-31 Thread Ted Drake
Hi All I've always been one to remove border attributes from data table markup. However, today I disabled styles on a fairly complicated table and realized it made very little sense without any demarcation between the cells. It would be simple enough to do http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See ht

RE: [WSG] Unstyling named anchors

2005-10-31 Thread Martin J. Lambert
> From: Thierry Koblentz > Martin J. Lambert wrote: > > Actually, when using XHTML Strict, "name" is not a valid attribute for > > anchors. You can use the "id" attribute to get the same jump-to-that- > > section-of-the-page behaviour, but this will work with *any* element, > > not just anchors. Si

Re: [WSG] my rounded corner box isn't displaying correctly in IE

2005-10-31 Thread Bruce Gilbert
Thanks for the tip,   I tried adding this for IE in the CSS:   * html #box{/*used for internet explorer*/       float:right;     width:25em;   background-color:#789;   margin:0;   padding:0;       } but I still get the added stuff for my box:   http://www.ins

[WSG] [Off Topic] Javascript Change Time Zone Offset for Date Object

2005-10-31 Thread James O'Neill
Hey Guys, I am curious if you know of a way in Javascript to change the Time Zone Offset for Date Object. There is a way to getTimezoneOffset, but I do not see a way to set the Time Zone Offset. When you create a new Date object it will always be set to the current local time zone as defined on y

Re: [WSG] Unstyling named anchors

2005-10-31 Thread Thierry Koblentz
Martin J. Lambert wrote: > Actually, when using XHTML Strict, "name" is not a valid attribute for > anchors. You can use the "id" attribute to get the same jump-to-that- > section-of-the-page behaviour, but this will work with *any* element, > not just anchors. Since you don't want the appearance o

RE: [WSG] Unstyling named anchors

2005-10-31 Thread Martin J. Lambert
> From: Paul Noone > > When using XHTML strict named anchors need to surround some link text, yes? > > I'd tinkered with a[name]:hover but I'm loathe to create a style for this. I > don't think hiding them is th eoption either. Actually, when using XHTML Strict, "name" is not a valid attribute