Re: [WSG] Footer Problem IE5.x

2007-07-02 Thread Nick Gleitzman
Sarah Peeke (XERT) wrote: 2. If I don't include a dreaded hack in my css (which I'd really like to remove because my style sheet doesn't validate) So use a Conditional Comment - ? N ___ omnivision. websight. http://www.omnivision.com.au/

Re: [WSG] Font-size 62.5% problem

2007-07-02 Thread Nick Gleitzman
On 2 Jul 2007, at 3:10 PM, Felix Miata wrote: Paul Collins apparently typed: I seem to be having trouble assigning the font-size:62.5% Please note that... Toldja. N ___ omnivision. websight. http://www.omnivision.com.au/

Re: [WSG] Footer Problem IE5.x

2007-07-02 Thread Sarah Peeke (XERT)
Hi Nick, I guess I was hoping to fix the problem(s), rather than just rely on a hack. Other suggestions appreciated. So use a Conditional Comment - ? 2. If I don't include a dreaded hack in my css (which I'd really like to remove because my style sheet doesn't validate) Sarah --

Re: [WSG] Footer Problem IE5.x

2007-07-02 Thread Nick Gleitzman
On 2 Jul 2007, at 6:09 PM, Sarah Peeke (XERT) wrote: I guess I was hoping to fix the problem(s), rather than just rely on a hack. Other suggestions appreciated. Fair enough, but I'd say your chances of getting the one set of css rules to display correctly in all browsers are pretty slim -

Re: [WSG] Best practice embedding a Quicktime/Flash video

2007-07-02 Thread David Little
These solutions are interesting, but I'm only willing to spend time looking at them if: * Users without Javascript but with Flash can still view the movies * I can integrate them with my CMS (Plone) -- I'll need to generate the code dynamically * I don't have to litter the body with Javascript

Re: [WSG] Footer Problem IE5.x

2007-07-02 Thread David Little
Seconded -- compared to all the other hacks you'll need to make when coding for IE browsers, conditional comments are the least of your worries; in fact they are your friend! On 02/07/07, Nick Gleitzman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2 Jul 2007, at 6:09 PM, Sarah Peeke (XERT) wrote: I guess I

Re: [WSG] Font-size 62.5% problem

2007-07-02 Thread Tony Crockford
Paul Collins wrote: The font stays slightly larger than 11px, when I set it to 1.1em. this has worked fine on other sites, so not sure why it isn't working here. Any ideas? check that you haven't set a minimum font size in your browser preferences. ;)

Re: [WSG] Font-size 62.5% problem

2007-07-02 Thread Paul Collins
Thanks for your replies everyone. My target would be Firefox, Safari, IE, Opera. This seems to have worked in the past on those browsers. It has worked fine for me in the past. Kepler, I tried adding it inline to the body tag, still can't get it to work. Tony, I tried getting rid of the minimum

RE: [WSG] Skip to Content?

2007-07-02 Thread michael.brockington
I think you missed the major point of the last reply - do you have any evidence that what you are doing _does_ make things easier for AT users? Many of the other good ideas that people have had, have been proved to be counter-productive, such as access keys that conflict with OS shortcuts. I have

RE: [WSG] Skip to Content?

2007-07-02 Thread michael.brockington
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nick Gleitzman Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2007 1:08 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Skip to Content? On 30 Jun 2007, at 9:58 AM, Sander Aarts wrote: So you don't care at all about

Re: [WSG] Skip to Content?

2007-07-02 Thread Joshua Street
On 7/2/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am curious as to whether 'skip to' links are any use, particularly when in multiples. I can't speak for AT users per se, but it sure is helpful when browsing on my mobile device (a Sony Ericsson V630i... not a PDA, so scrolling is that

Re: [WSG] Page Structure

2007-07-02 Thread Andrew Maben
On Jun 28, 2007, at 8:47 AM, Tony Crockford wrote: Why is the company logo and strap line the most important thing on every page of a web site. OR - why does most important *thing* on the page have to correspond to h1? Take a newspaper: arguably the most important *thing* on the front

RE: [WSG] Page Structure

2007-07-02 Thread Frank Palinkas
Hi Andrew, I would say the most important _thing_ in a newspaper is the title of lead story for that part of the day. The analogy to a web document would be the topic name of the page and be marked up as the h1. The name of the newspaper itself doesn't offer any timely information or _news_.

Re: [WSG] Page Structure

2007-07-02 Thread Stuart Foulstone
Hi, One thing usability studies HAVE found is that, when people are searching for a particulsr item on the Web, they barely glance at the logo and tag line. What they do is scan the headers on the page. If they find an interesting header, they'll speed-read the associated text to see if it's

RE: [WSG] Page Structure

2007-07-02 Thread Thierry Koblentz
On Behalf Of Frank Palinkas I would say the most important _thing_ in a newspaper is the title of lead story for that part of the day. The I don't know why we're talking about Newspapers and/or Books here. This is not print isn't? There is not such thing that covers and front pages on the

RE: [WSG] Page Structure

2007-07-02 Thread Christie Mason
IF you are doing user-centric design, then the question becomes What's the most important part of the page to the USER? Once you look at it from that viewpoint, then the company name is not the most important. The company name has a visual importance for branding and keeping the clients happy,

Re: [WSG] Best practice embedding a Quicktime/Flash video

2007-07-02 Thread Micky Hulse
David Little wrote: These solutions are interesting, but I'm only willing to spend time looking at them if: Seems like you are over-thinking it. swfObject or UFO. I personally prefer the latter mostly due to reasons I stated before (cms... needing access to certain params for dynamic

Re: [WSG] Footer Problem IE5.x

2007-07-02 Thread Jermayn Parker
Just a quick question. Why we still coding/ hacking for IE5??? On 7/2/07, Sarah Peeke (XERT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Nick, I guess I was hoping to fix the problem(s), rather than just rely on a hack. Other suggestions appreciated. So use a Conditional Comment - ? 2. If I don't

Re: [WSG] Footer Problem IE5.x

2007-07-02 Thread Sarah Peeke (XERT)
Hi Jermayn, Just a quick question. Why we still coding/ hacking for IE5??? Good point. It's just that the site works very well in IE5.5 *except* for this problem - which, by the way, I've just about fixed. Also, my website browser stats have IE5.x at about 2% - not much I know, but when you

Re: [WSG] Skip to Content?

2007-07-02 Thread Sander Aarts
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schreef: I think you missed the major point of the last reply - do you have any evidence that what you are doing _does_ make things easier for AT users? I base that on research done by others (I'm not a researcher). For instance

Re: [WSG] Footer Problem IE5.x

2007-07-02 Thread Sander Aarts
Sarah Peeke (XERT) schreef: Hi Jermayn, Just a quick question. Why we still coding/ hacking for IE5??? Also, my website browser stats have IE5.x at about 2% - not much I know, but when you also consider Opera, IE5 Mac and Safari also share 1-2% of my audience each, then, by looking

[WSG] Dutch guild of front-end developers in the making

2007-07-02 Thread Sander Aarts
Hello all, Here's some front-end news from the Netherlands: Yesterday, PPK announced that he and others are busy setting up a Dutch guild of Front-end Developers: http://www.quirksmode.org/blog/archives/2007/07/gilde_van_front.html (only in Dutch for now). The general idea is to