Re: [WSG] long description and its implementation

2008-02-04 Thread David Dorward
On 4 Feb 2008, at 02:08, Susie Gardner-Brown wrote: A further query on the longdesc attribute. Is there any reason why I couldn’t use it on a Flash animation? Because object doesn't suck as much as img (from a design point of view, browser implementations rather wreck the idea). object

RE: [WSG] long description and its implementation

2008-02-04 Thread Steve Green
Most screen readers sit on top of whatever browser you are using. Professional screen readers can interact with JavaScript and Flash if these are enabled in the browser, although the level of support varies. In particular Flash content is often totally or partially inaccessible, although this is

Re: [WSG] Re: Why code and no web pag

2008-02-04 Thread Jason Pruim
Also... when you do an include you need to quote it: include ../ crf_header.php; On Feb 3, 2008, at 12:45 AM, Christian Snodgrass wrote: This isn't really the place to discuss this as it has nothing to do with web standards, but it is because you can't have an include using an absolute

RE: [WSG] long description and its implementation

2008-02-04 Thread Ted Drake
It's been a while since I've dealt with the issue of screen reader accessibility and UFO insertion. I thought I remembered ours being screen reader accessible until using window mode: transparent. Here's a blog post about our solution.

RE: [WSG] long description and its implementation

2008-02-04 Thread Steve Green
I checked www.salford.ac.uk with JAWS 7.10 and 9.0, and neither of them see either the linked image or the Flash content. Steve -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick H. Lauke Sent: 04 February 2008 13:27 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org

Re: [WSG] linking to images with //

2008-02-04 Thread Alexander Gounder
dear all even is if / is repeated more than once in any URL, it is interpreted by most browsers as just one / You can try this on any site you visit which has subfolders.but if the website is using a external CSS and images in another subfolder it won't show. for e.g. the pages is

RE: [WSG] long description and its implementation

2008-02-04 Thread Patrick Lauke
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ted Drake Sent: 04 February 2008 14:41 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: RE: [WSG] long description and its implementation It's been a while since I've dealt with the issue of screen reader

RE: [WSG] long description and its implementation

2008-02-04 Thread Steve Green
This behaves the same as the Salford website. JAWS does not see either the Flash content or the HTML site map. Steve -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Per Allan Johansson Sent: 04 February 2008 14:06 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject:

RE: [WSG] long description and its implementation

2008-02-04 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
Quoting Steve Green [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Screen readers do not read Flash content that is embedded using unobtrusive techniques such as SWFObject. I expect they would read the content that is supposed to be replaced, but I have never encountered an implementation where there was any alternate

RE: [WSG] long description and its implementation

2008-02-04 Thread Patrick Lauke
Interesting...so what DO you get? Is that with JS enabled? P -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Green Sent: 04 February 2008 14:23 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: RE: [WSG] long description and its implementation I

RE: [WSG] long description and its implementation

2008-02-04 Thread Per Allan Johansson
Quoting Steve Green [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Screen readers do not read Flash content that is embedded using unobtrusive techniques such as SWFObject. I expect they would read the content that is supposed to be replaced, but I have never encountered an implementation where there was any alternate

RE: [WSG] long description and its implementation

2008-02-04 Thread Steve Green
You get nothing. JAWS goes straight from the left-hand menu to the list of three links (study, research and business) in the centre of the page. This is with JavaScript enabled. With JavaScript turned off, JAWS reads the image link. Steve -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[WSG] Electronic forms building software

2008-02-04 Thread Jessica Enders
Hi all I was wondering what WYSIWYG electronic (web and other) forms building software would you recommend or avoid? I'm interested in experience with Form Assembly, in particular. The sorts of things I'm interested in feedback on include Wufoo, Icebrrg, SurveyMonkey, Zoomerang,