[WSG] Daniel Beckitt is out of the office.

2008-06-20 Thread daniel . b . beckitt
I will be out of the office starting 19/06/2008 and will not return until 23/06/2008. I will respond to your message when I return. For urgent enquiries, please contact Bret Bearham on 3032 3466. *** WARNING: This e-mail

Re: [WSG] html vs. html

2008-06-20 Thread Joe Ortenzi
Ultimately, if the server is configured right, it shouldn't matter, but standardistas are sticklers for detail./ feel able to reveal the vendor name? Curious Joe On Jun 19 2008, at 18:08, Rob Enslin wrote: Many thanks for all the input. Now for the fun part... go back to the CMS vendor

Re: [WSG] User testing results to reinforce 'no popup' recommendation [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

2008-06-20 Thread Jason Ray
I would tend to argue the opposite (though not entirely). Links to external sites opening in new windows are not a bad idea in certain circumstances such as when external material might end up inside a frame, as might happen inside a Learning Management System... it might be advisable at that

Re: [WSG] html vs. html

2008-06-20 Thread Martin Kliehm
On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 3:07 PM, Patrick H. Lauke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rob Enslin wrote: I recently started noticing that our CMS system generated .htm pages where previously the system produced .html pages. I questioned the support staff and was told that the W3C deemed

Re: [WSG] html vs. html

2008-06-20 Thread Joseph Ortenzi
The question wasn't about keeping file extensions in URIs it was about what file extension the file should have, which I am sure you will agree is still required as the server needs to know if it is an html, php, css, js, etc file doesn't it. But I completely agree, my server can serve a

Re: [WSG] User testing results to reinforce 'no popup' recommendation [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

2008-06-20 Thread Joseph Ortenzi
Opening links in new windows is not an evil thought, no, but it is best avoided in most circumstances. We should never use Experienced Users and shift+ctrl+alt as a benchmark as I would assume these are about 1% or less of most site traffic and thus a very tiny minority which shouldn't be

Re: [WSG] html vs. html

2008-06-20 Thread Ian Chamberlain
My memory is fading fast Joe, but as I recall our first windows based web server (from Bob Denny's book) fixed the 8.3 limitation. We did continue creating .htm for a while after that but only out of habit. I can't remember the exact date but I would quess that we have been largely free from

Re: [WSG] html vs. html

2008-06-20 Thread Joseph Ortenzi
Exactly! But as you know, old conventions die hard! Joe On Jun 20, 2008, at 10:19, Ian Chamberlain wrote: My memory is fading fast Joe, but as I recall our first windows based web server (from Bob Denny's book) fixed the 8.3 limitation. We did continue creating .htm for a while after

Re: [WSG] html vs. html - neither.

2008-06-20 Thread Dave Lane
I must say that I find it quite alarming that any professional web developers believe that a CMS must produce URLs for dynamically generated pages (not files) which say .htm or .html on the end. My colleagues and I have adopted sites built by such developers, and I can tell you that

Re: [WSG] html vs. html

2008-06-20 Thread Rob Enslin
Joe wrote: PS: the subject should really be htm vs html, no? or am I missing something? Yes - should have been htm vs html. And, I don't feel comfortable revealing the CMS vendor as we currently have a *great* working relationship and don't want to upset that ;-) [sure you understand] Rob

Re: [WSG] html vs. html

2008-06-20 Thread Joseph Ortenzi
One can only ask. JOe On Jun 20, 2008, at 11:16, Rob Enslin wrote: Joe wrote: PS: the subject should really be htm vs html, no? or am I missing something? Yes - should have been htm vs html. And, I don't feel comfortable revealing the CMS vendor as we currently have a *great*

Re: [WSG] html vs. html - neither.

2008-06-20 Thread Rob Enslin
I must say that I find it quite alarming that any professional web developers believe that a CMS must produce URLs for dynamically generated pages (not files) which say .htm or .html on the end. Dave, it's not that they (CMS vendor) believes it needs to be done or indeed compulsory, it's

[WSG] Forcing a vertical scrollbar in Firefox 3

2008-06-20 Thread Mark Voss
I've always used: html{min-height:100.1%;} to force a vertical scroll-bar in Firefox for fixed width sites that are centred in the browser window - it stops them jumping sideways when you navigate between pages that are longer and shorter than the viewport. With the release of Firefox 3

Re: [WSG] Forcing a vertical scrollbar in Firefox 3

2008-06-20 Thread Алексей Тен
You should try html { overflow-y: scroll; } On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 16:53, Mark Voss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've always used: html{min-height:100.1%;} to force a vertical scroll-bar in Firefox for fixed width sites that are centred in the browser window - it stops them jumping sideways

RE: [WSG] Forcing a vertical scrollbar in Firefox 3

2008-06-20 Thread Patrick Lauke
[EMAIL PROTECTED] html { overflow-y: scroll; } Ah, back in the days I tried it Opera wasn't playing ball. I now see that (at least Opera 9.5) understands this now. Good stuff. P Patrick H. Lauke Web Editor Enterprise Development University of Salford Room

Re: [WSG] Forcing a vertical scrollbar in Firefox 3

2008-06-20 Thread Gregorio Espadas
I use: *html{ overflow:-moz-scrollbars-vertical; }* ... and it works fine for me :-) Gregorio Espadas http://espadas.com.mx On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 8:04 AM, Алексей Тен [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You should try html { overflow-y: scroll; } On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 16:53, Mark Voss [EMAIL

Re: [WSG] html vs. html

2008-06-20 Thread Alastair Campbell
On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 9:43 AM, Joseph Ortenzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The question wasn't about keeping file extensions in URIs it was about what file extension the file should have, which I am sure you will agree is still required as the server needs to know if it is an html, php, css, js,

RE: [WSG] Forcing a vertical scrollbar in Firefox 3

2008-06-20 Thread Patrick Lauke
Mark Voss html{min-height:100.2%;} even more subtle html { min-height: 100%; margin-bottom: 1px; } http://www.splintered.co.uk/experiments/49/ P Patrick H. Lauke Web Editor Enterprise Development University of Salford Room 113, Faraday House Salford,

Re: [WSG] html vs. html

2008-06-20 Thread James Pickering
Alastair Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: .. on Apache at least (and I would assume IIS) you can set the mime-type text/html for any file extension, or no file extension. I would guess that you can probably set it for a whole directory or filepath as well ... James --

Re: [WSG] html vs. html

2008-06-20 Thread James Pickering
Excuse me, on my previous response to Alastair Campbell I meant to include . Also for Zeus James -- http://jp29.org/ Semantic Web Page Authoring ... Validated: HTML/XHTML/XHTML+RDFa ~ CSS ~ RDF/XML - DC

Re: [WSG] Forcing a vertical scrollbar in Firefox 3

2008-06-20 Thread Matijs
Drawback is of course that only Mozilla based browsers understand this. On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 3:20 PM, Gregorio Espadas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use: *html{ overflow:-moz-scrollbars-vertical; }* ... and it works fine for me :-) Gregorio Espadas http://espadas.com.mx On Fri, Jun