Chris,
Please can you provide more information about the form. I would be
hesitant in agreeing with a solution that seems to omit the labels for
the second form controls.
Darren
2008/6/10 Chris Pearce [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Hi,
Would the following layout be best marked up using a table:
An alternative could be to develop with relative sizes for all
measurements, allowing the interface to be scaled to any screen
resolution. Examples can be seen at http://www.linkedin.com and
http://www.sky.com
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for others. You could, also, for
example, only show subnav within a section, negating the need for popouts.
If your architecture is clear and obvious, and you have plenty of clear
pointers to the content sections, the popout subnav becomes less necessary.
On Jun 6 2008, at 16:18, Darren West
Cool design, maybe you could reveal the sublnks onClick? then keep the
panel open and repopulate with the relevant links as you move over the
navigation links.
If you have the time/money in the project, it would be well worth
doing user testing :-)
We maybe veering away from the purpose of this
Ihttp://developer.yahoo.com/ypatterns/pattern.php?pattern=breadcrumbs
2008/6/6 libwebdev [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Hi folks,
My organisation manages around 7000+ pages for 100s of departments,
using a CMS. Mine is the only department outside the CMS, just because
we can.
We have been persuaded
James,
Have you heard of progressive enhancement?
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_Enhancement
I would link all the 'nav' items to root pages that include the sub
links so if JS is unavailable a usable experience is provided for all,
then if JS is available, enhance the experience by
Joe said:
Therefore if javascript is off, any descended subnav should display in it's
expanded state.
I agree with this pattern for some scenerios, for example with tabbed
panels, but (depending on the design) surely with drop down navigation
it would cause usability issues with the expanded
Olajide,
I've not tested on IE as just reinstalled and haven't had chance to
put parallels back but, what about this ...
a {
background: black;
}
a:hover {
padding: 5px;
}
a:hover img {
margin: -0px -5px -10px -5px;
}
Hope it helps
Darren
2008/6/5 Olajide Olaolorun [EMAIL
Opps, no, it sucks up the next block element
2008/6/5 Darren West [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Olajide,
I've not tested on IE as just reinstalled and haven't had chance to
put parallels back but, what about this ...
a {
background: black;
}
a:hover {
padding: 5px;
}
a:hover img {
margin
on the parent paragraph
2008/6/5 Darren West [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Opps, no, it sucks up the next block element
2008/6/5 Darren West [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Olajide,
I've not tested on IE as just reinstalled and haven't had chance to
put parallels back but, what about this ...
a {
background
mouse over it and see that the Share This moves into
the image? Why is that?
THANKS
On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 4:44 PM, Darren West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Maybe this ...
a {
background: black;
}
a:hover {
border: 0;
padding: 5px;
}
a img {
border: 0;
}
a:hover img {
border
This link. Now mouse over it and see that the Share This moves into the
image? Why is that?
THANKS
On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 4:44 PM, Darren West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Maybe this ...
a {
background: black;
}
a:hover {
border: 0;
padding: 5px;
}
a img {
border: 0
;-)
One more question, if you look at the end of a post, you will see the
Share This link. Now mouse over it and see that the Share This moves into
the image? Why is that?
THANKS
On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 4:44 PM, Darren West [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Maybe this ...
a {
background: black
{
...
with:
div#mainContent a img {
...
2008/6/5 Olajide Olaolorun [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
What do you mean?
On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 5:11 PM, Darren West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Target the links specifically in the mainContent using:
div#mainContent a {
...
2008/6/5 Olajide Olaolorun [EMAIL
No but you do have access to style.css so pop it in there
2008/6/5 Olajide Olaolorun [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Where did you see the sharethis.css? I think thats on the sharethis.com
website. I have no access to that.
On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 5:19 PM, Darren West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You maybe
Are there ... how many?
2008/6/5 Todd [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Darren West wrote:
You maybe able to make it works with further experimentation ...
2008/6/5 Olajide Olaolorun [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
One more thing, it doesnt work on IE :(
On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 5:04 PM, Olajide Olaolorun
[EMAIL
My 2 pence ...
titlePage title - Site title/title
div id=brand
pimg alt=Site title ... //p
/div
div id=content
h1Page Title/h1
...
/div
div id=search
h1Search/h1
form ...
/div
div id=nav
h1Navigation/h1
ul ...
/div
2008/6/3 Rick Lecoat [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On 3 Jun
have the
logo in a H1 or not? Should you have something different between the
title and main heading?
Cheers
2008/6/3 Darren West [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
My 2 pence ...
titlePage title - Site title/title
div id=brand
pimg alt=Site title ... //p
/div
div id=content
h1Page
To be clear, my statement, which was quite sweeping, was meant to
express that when a site is built for computers as opposed to humans
then that to me flies in the face of Web Standards. So I agree :-)
2008/6/3 Rick Lecoat [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On 3 Jun 2008, at 12:55, Darren West wrote:
I do
Seems like a good idea, any implications?
2008/5/28 Rick Lecoat [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On 28 May 2008, at 11:31, Gunlaug Sørtun wrote:
Me too. IE/win shows title-text on images when such exists, otherwise it
shows the alt-text if such exists.
For this reason I quite often use a null-value
There is the argument that you are changing the behaviour of IE,
however wrong it is, it could be what users expect. I believe Jaws
ignores empty attributes so all good there ...
2008/5/28 Darren West [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Seems like a good idea, any implications?
2008/5/28 Rick Lecoat [EMAIL
Rick Lecoat wrote:
I agree that that's an argument. But the counter-argument, to my mind, is that
I'm *correcting* the behaviour of IE through markup and css
(well, ok, not css in this case) to bring it into line with standards
compliant browsers, which is what we, ad web designers/developers
Rick,
what email client are you using? how do you get the 'on 28 may darren
wrote ...' and the border-left on the quote?
Cheers
Darren
2008/5/28 Rick Lecoat [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On 28 May 2008, at 12:53, Darren West wrote:
There is the argument that you are changing the behaviour of IE
ahhh hahaha
thats brilliant!!
Tom said:
How about a real 'attributes for dummies' reference??
are you writing a book?
2008/5/28 Tom Livingston [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 6:57 PM, Andrew Maben [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On May 27, 2008, at 3:43 PM, Andrew Freedman wrote:
I'm not sure exactly what the spec says, go read it, but alt stands
for alternative so the content would be represented alternatively when
say the other content was unavailble. Where as title is meant to
provide additional information related to the content such as a title.
So
img
No action attribute on the form?
2008/5/15 james [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Hi All;
On my contact page i have used this code, however it comes back as not
being valid XHTML 1.0 Transitional, am i missing something silly here?
form
label for=userName/label input type=text id=user value= /br
/
The reason for putting the character there in the first place is
explicitly to help screen-reader users distinguish between links.
It is my understanding that the fact that they are seperate links is what
distinguishes between links ...
Screen-reader users have said that the vertical bar is
You can use more than one h1
Darren.
On 27/06/07, Web Man Walking [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello
I am about to start a new website and was given some advice by a SEO expert
who says the h1 on the page should be the most relevant thing to the page.
For example for a Sports Packages company I
I would probably use something like this ... (with h replaced with the
level heading required)
ul
li
ha href=img src= alt=/a/h
ul
lia href=View/a/li
lia href=Buy/a/li
/ul
/li
Maybe then a tip could be added to explain that functionality
something like:
p title=tipAlt+Demo Arrow to open select spanTurn off
tooltips/span/p
select
Darren
On 09/06/07, Steve Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Internet Explorer users can use Alt+Down Arrow to open the SELECT element
and
Hi Rebecca,
Screen readers handling of JavaScript events are a real pain as not only do
different screen readers handle HTML and CSS differently but this is also
true of their handling of JavaScript. Typically as no content should be
inaccessible without JS if you must hide content from a
You will find these books very helpful
http://www.amazon.co.uk/DOM-Scripting-Design-JavaScript-Document/dp/1590595335/ref=pd_ka_1/202-6135156-2275021?ie=UTF8s=booksqid=1172759335sr=8-1
This behaviour is by design, for security reasons when the script is sourced
locally (ie. if you load the website and script from your local machine) you
will see this alert; I don't get the message and neither will other
visitors.
On 28/02/07, kevin mcmonagle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
Im
I would advise your client against this behaviour as it will not only cause
user confusion but also conflicts with the default behaviour of the form.
Darren
On 27/02/07, Nick Roper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
A customer has requested that they should be able to navigate between
input fields
Hello,
Can anyone please recommend a standards compliant slideshow script
that uses a list of images within the HTML markup to dynamically
create the show.
Thanks
Daz
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See
Thats cool, thanks all, although I think I may have miss explained
myself - will simplify with links :)
Basically I am trying to setup pagination - here are the pages:
http://ta.rt-ms.net/teamengine/property.html
http://ta.rt-ms.net/teamengine/assets/js/media.js
And is the markup:
div
I would advise against * html hacks though - http://www.webstandards.org/buzz/archive/2005_12.html#a000598Daz
On 07/03/06, Gunlaug Sørtun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Lachlan Hunt wrote: The following test case demonstrates how I want it to look and my current solution that works in Firefox.Both
Thanks Richard and Jesse for your earlier help, thats all working
now. I hope you don't mind but I could do with your assistance
again :-)
I am now trying to clear the default value of a field (which works
fine) and then restore the default value if there is no user input. The
problem is I get
Is caused by applying the line-height to the body (http://www.positioniseverything.net/gecko/mozshift.html)
DazOn 03/03/06, Soeren Mordhorst [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Mozilla and Netscape do not display border-bottom: 1px solid #bbb; inthe navigation-list in the 'li': Forums (first right
Hi Kim,
You need to associate a label * with your select element. For instance:
form id=selectform method=post action=action_script.php
fieldset
* label for=selectPlease choose/label
select name=select
option selected=selected label=vælg herVælg her/option
optgroup label=Vælg
Opps, and associated the label with and id. For instance:
label for=selectPlease choose/label
select name=select id=select
Daz
On 01/03/06, Darren West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Kim,
You need to associate a label * with your select element. For instance:
form id=selectform method=post
I would say thats a perfect use for a definition list.
Daz
On 28/02/06, Josh Rose [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ok, I'm creating an online store for a client and they want a browseable
list of the store categories, plus a small description of the category
underneath each one.
I was planning on
a href=#Back to Top/a
On 27/02/06, Lachlan Hunt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Paul Novitski wrote:
At 05:35 AM 2/27/2006, Curby wrote:
What is the recommended way for linking back to the top of the page? I
can't link to the id of my H1 because of my CSS.
Whoa. Stop right there. How can
It definatly should, relax and think of home ;-)
On 23/02/06, John S. Britsios [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dear co-members,
I would like to ask your opinion here, if a web site logo should or not
link to the homepage.
By the way, see for example what Jesper Tverskov wrote about this:
If you werent worried about users without JavaScript enabled you could
use this http://dean.edwards.name/IE7/, alternatively have a fixed
size for IE.
Daz
On 24/02/06, Joseph R. B. Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Greetings all,
I'm working on getting a site launched -
Hello all,
If I have an image which has a relationship to other content within a
containing element how should this be marked up.
For instance:
1.
div class=person
h2Person A/h2
img src=person_a.jpg /
ul
liBig feet/li
liSmall hands/li
/ul
/div
2.
div class=person
h2Person A/h2
pimg
I too rarely get the start of most threads (although I got this one)
Daz
On 21/02/06, Felix Miata [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
For quite some time I've had a problem with missed and late posts on
this list. I've talked to my ISP, as I'm sure the SPAM volume they have
to deal with contributes to
Evening groupHas anyone got any suggestions as to how I would mark up a font size menu, for example:pFont size:/pol liA/li liA/li liA/li
/olWith font sizes defined ever larger on the list items as a visual indication and the ordered list from an accessible unstyled point of view.Daz
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Behalf Of Darren West
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006
1:58 PM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: [WSG] Font size menu
Evening group
Has anyone got any suggestions as to how I would mark up a font size menu, for
example:
pFont size:/p
ol
liA/li
liA/li
liA
? If html, wrap
the a in smalla/small biga/big
Personally, I don't like those tags but I
know others do.
You can then use CSS to define the look of
those letters
ted
From:
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Darren West
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006
2:38 PM
I would use:
ul id=nav-bananas
li
h3Buncrana Town/h3
ul
lia href="" Directory/a/li
lia href="" Directory/a/li
/ul
/li
li
h3Community/h3
ul
lia href="">
lia href="">
/ul
/li
/ul
Where 'bananas' is replaced with a semantically suitable name such as main for main navigation or supp
Exactly for that point; IMHO decribing the content rather than the
presentation makes your markup easier to read, style and manage by
whomever - users, coders, accessibility tools, browsers, search
engines, and yourself, this is why web standards are so
important. Some interesting reading on
Hello all,Please can you review and give comment on the following:http://ta.rt-ms.net/2/properties.html
http://ta.rt-ms.net/2/propertydetails.htmlThanks in advanceDarren
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From:
Darren
West
To:
wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 10:26
PM
Subject: [WSG] Site Review
Hello all,Please can you review and give comment on the
following:http://ta.rt-ms.net/2/properties.html
http://ta.rt-ms.net/2/propertydetails.htmlThanks
Thanks Martin,I have sorted all issues highlighted apart from the DL for the address as only one item will ever appear - would DL still be appropriate? and microformats leave with me.Daz
On 30/01/06, Martin Heiden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Darren,on Monday, January 30, 2006 at 12:26
How about the list of class 'properties', should that be an un-ordered list?DazOn 30/01/06, Stephen Stagg
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Should an agent's address really be a definition list??
If you want that sort of semantic pedantry, the markup should be:block taghxAcme Estate
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