Re: [WSG] Budget Design

2004-06-01 Thread Mordechai Peller
Kat Rasmussen wrote: What Rick says is true -- it is illegal for US businesses (including individuals who freelance) to discuss rates with members of the same industry. The legal term here is price fixing, and it is taken very seriously, regardless of the intent of the discussion or the context

Re: [WSG] Budget Design

2004-06-01 Thread Rick Faaberg
On 6/1/04 3:38 AM Mordechai Peller [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out: Kat Rasmussen wrote: What Rick says is true -- it is illegal for US businesses (including individuals who freelance) to discuss rates with members of the same industry. The legal term here is price fixing, and it is taken

Re: [WSG] Budget Design - ALREADY CLOSED

2004-06-01 Thread Russ Weakley - Maxdesign
Mordechai and Rick, This thread was closed about 10 hours ago by Peter (Listdad) Please do not continue. Thanks Russ What Rick says is true -- it is illegal for US businesses (including individuals who freelance) to discuss rates with members of the same industry. The legal term here is

[WSG] Budget Design

2004-05-31 Thread Luke Moulton
Forgive me if this is a little off scope for this list, but having read the recent publication from Didier Hilhorst and Daniel Rubin of Sinelogic, Budget Design: Increase Profit by Improving Process (http://sinelogic.com/), I was wondering what other freelancers and small web development teams

Re: [WSG] Budget Design

2004-05-31 Thread Justin French
On 01/06/2004, at 8:55 AM, Luke Moulton wrote: At this present time, for our team a small budget website consists of a 5 to 10 page (for want of a better word) XHTML/CSS site with CMS and can cost the client anywhere from AU$3.5K to AU$5.5K depending on customisation. I'm also in AU, and this

Re: [WSG] Budget Design

2004-05-31 Thread Universal Head
That's about right for me too. Peter On 01/06/2004, at 9:13 AM, Justin French wrote: On 01/06/2004, at 8:55 AM, Luke Moulton wrote: At this present time, for our team a small budget website consists of a 5 to 10 page (for want of a better word) XHTML/CSS site with CMS and can cost the client

Re[2]: [WSG] Budget Design

2004-05-31 Thread Mike Brown
At this present time, for our team a small budget website consists of a 5 to 10 page (for want of a better word) XHTML/CSS site with CMS and can cost the client anywhere from AU$3.5K to AU$5.5K depending on customisation. Justin I'm also in AU, and this appears to be a fair *market* price for

RE: Re[2]: [WSG] Budget Design

2004-05-31 Thread Luke Moulton
and this is why discussions about prices are usually taboo. Not so much the giving away of trade secrets, but that they're of *very* limited value to most everyone on a mailing list such as this. Thanks Mike. Agreed. Very difficult to compare Apples with apples between different design

RE: Re[2]: [WSG] Budget Design

2004-05-31 Thread Sameer Kekade
9370 2775 Fax direct +61 2 9370 1200 Mobile 0411 566 650 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.quatro.com.au -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Kear Sent: Tuesday, 1 June 2004 10:41 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Re[2]: [WSG] Budget Design

RE: Re[2]: [WSG] Budget Design

2004-05-31 Thread Kay Smoljak
That's known as price-fixing here in the US and that is illegal. That's not true. Discussing going rates in various countries is not price-fixing. A group of people agreeing to only charge a certain rate is price-fixing. This is having less and less to do with web standards. -- Kay Smoljak

Re: Re[2]: [WSG] Budget Design

2004-05-31 Thread Rick Faaberg
On 5/31/04 6:19 PM Kay Smoljak [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out: That's known as price-fixing here in the US and that is illegal. That's not true. Discussing going rates in various countries is not price-fixing. A group of people agreeing to only charge a certain rate is price-fixing. This

RE: [WSG] Budget Design CLOSED NOW THANKS

2004-05-31 Thread Peter Firminger
I've let this ramble on a bit as a) it seemed interesting to a number of you and b) it is a slow day on the list however now it is going right off target and I think we should finish the discussion. Thanks, ListDad This is having less and less to do with web standards.