Re: [WSG] CMS review

2008-02-28 Thread alysia hill
Hello. I have just discovered this australian based company Powerfront. I am really interested in some feedback. I'm a graphic designer, and I have worked with developers that build wonderful standards compliant websites with a CMS. I have looked at the source code of Powerfront websites,

Re: [WSG] CMS review

2008-02-28 Thread John Faulds
Me, personally, I wouldn't use a CMS that produced mark-up like that. Especially not when I know there are others out there that will do a better job (haven't explored Powerfront too closely to find out whether it's possible to alter the output mark-up). I'd have to ask though: why are you

Re: [WSG] CMS review

2008-02-28 Thread Adam Martin
Please consider that a cms is a tool too allow people to add there own content. So the inline styling may in fact be added by the end user. Most wysiwyg editors allow you to define styles for the content, however I find a lot of people do not go to this little effort, rather opting for the inline

Re: [WSG] CMS review

2008-02-28 Thread John Faulds
Please consider that a cms is a tool too allow people to add there own content. So the inline styling may in fact be added by the end user. For the example site linked to - http://www.goodshepvic.org.au/ - I didn't even get as far down to what might've been user entered content. Incomplete

Re: [WSG] CMS review

2008-02-28 Thread Viable Design
Hi there, Alysia. The code on both sites looks awful to me: the huge list of styles in the header, the bloated table-based layout. Both are drawbacks as they tend to lengthen page-loading time and create a lag effect for the user. Not a pleasant, I-want-to-return sort of environment, to say the

Re: [WSG] CMS review

2008-02-28 Thread kevin mcmonagle
That code isn't standards based. Use textpattern. -kevin *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [WSG] CMS review

2008-02-28 Thread Webb, KerryA
Alysia wrote: Hello. I have just discovered this australian based company Powerfront. I am really interested in some feedback. Here is an example website which I think is pretty good http://www.goodshepvic.org.au/ It prompts you to download Flash 9 - which people on locked-down

Re: [WSG] CMS review

2008-02-28 Thread Bruce
thing, yes? Bruce Prochnau BKDesign Solutions - Original Message - From: Webb, KerryA [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 7:20 PM Subject: RE: [WSG] CMS review Alysia wrote: Hello. I have just discovered this australian based company

Re: [WSG] CMS review

2008-02-28 Thread Avi Miller
On 29/02/2008, at 4:10 PM, Bruce wrote: What is needed is a cms that has the template code in the open in {x}html format which allows unlimited customization of it. One of the goals of MySource Matrix is to allow the end-user to customise every single piece of output text without

Re: [WSG] CMS review

2008-02-28 Thread Bruce
: [WSG] CMS review On 29/02/2008, at 4:10 PM, Bruce wrote: What is needed is a cms that has the template code in the open in {x}html format which allows unlimited customization of it. One of the goals of MySource Matrix is to allow the end-user to customise every single piece of output text

Re: [WSG] CMS review

2008-02-28 Thread tee
On Feb 28, 2008, at 9:10 PM, Bruce wrote: This conversation comes up frequently. Unfortunately most of what are called content management systems do not let the developer determine what shows in the published template, as they are wrapped around the core programming and difficult to