Re: [WSG] an inline element (inside a block element) sibling ofanother block element

2007-07-27 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
I think I'd like to hear from someone really into this stuff - because I realized that my interpretation would outlaw this: div img /div and surely that must be okay, no? I am confused, what problem do you try to solve? Yes, according to specification and DTD as shown earlier it is ok to

Re: [WSG] an inline element (inside a block element) sibling ofanother block element

2007-07-27 Thread E Michael Brandt
We are discussing the current draft of html5: http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/#block-level btw, my example of div img /div was not a good one as the proposed new rule allows either inline OR blcok level elements within a div, just not both. however it does seem to say this

Re: [WSG] an inline element (inside a block element) sibling ofanother block element

2007-07-27 Thread E Michael Brandt
I think I'd like to hear from someone really into this stuff - because I realized that my interpretation would outlaw this: div img /div and surely that must be okay, no? -- E. Michael Brandt www.divaHTML.com divaGPS : you-are-here menu highlighting divaFAQ : FAQ pages with pizazz

Re: [WSG] an inline element (inside a block element) sibling ofanother block element

2007-07-26 Thread Jermayn Parker
OK thanks. I assumed it was a no no as it does not make sense but I have learnt that making sense is not always a W3C thing :) In the templates that I recieved, the code looked like: div jhd jhd hwd wqdkh br /br / pkhdj jwhd jhwqdj hwd/p /div This actually does not view the same in every

Re: [WSG] an inline element (inside a block element) sibling ofanother block element

2007-07-26 Thread E Michael Brandt
Go ahead and try it, as I did. Create a page with that markup and run it thru a validator. It passes just fine. -- E. Michael Brandt www.divaHTML.com divaGPS : you-are-here menu highlighting divaFAQ : FAQ pages with pizazz www.valleywebdesigns.com JustSo PictureWindow JustSo PhotoAlbum --

Re: [WSG] an inline element (inside a block element) sibling ofanother block element

2007-07-26 Thread Raena Jackson Armitage
On 7/27/07, Jermayn Parker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just how can this be valid?? the way i see it that ifyou have a paragraph or text it needs to be contained by a p tag or other similar tags Valid or not, it's not very semantic. -- Raena Jackson Armitage www.raena.net

Re: [WSG] an inline element (inside a block element) sibling ofanother block element

2007-07-26 Thread Jermayn Parker
Just how can this be valid?? the way i see it that ifyou have a paragraph or text it needs to be contained by a p tag or other similar tags [EMAIL PROTECTED] 27/07/2007 9:43:17 am uhoh, I think perhaps my wording might have confused you. It apparently will NOT allowed in the future, but for

Re: [WSG] an inline element (inside a block element) sibling ofanother block element

2007-07-26 Thread E Michael Brandt
uhoh, I think perhaps my wording might have confused you. It apparently will NOT allowed in the future, but for now, such markup Validates in Strict XHTML and HTML4. Hope that clarifies. btw, that different browsers render it differently is of course no surprise. This is, at least in part,

Re: [WSG] an inline element (inside a block element) sibling ofanother block element

2007-07-26 Thread E Michael Brandt
we agree. -- E. Michael Brandt www.divaHTML.com divaGPS : you-are-here menu highlighting divaFAQ : FAQ pages with pizazz www.valleywebdesigns.com JustSo PictureWindow JustSo PhotoAlbum -- Raena Jackson Armitage wrote: On 7/27/07, *Jermayn Parker* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [WSG] an inline element (inside a block element) sibling ofanother block element

2007-07-26 Thread Jermayn Parker
Could someone please give me the answer to this in plain english.. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 25/07/2007 4:04:18 pm div A line of plain text. pA paragraph./p Another line of text. /div Now a question, Is this actually valid?? I recently recieved some templates of another designer

RE: [WSG] an inline element (inside a block element) sibling ofanother block element

2007-07-26 Thread Joyce Evans
, July 26, 2007 9:38 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] an inline element (inside a block element) sibling ofanother block element we agree. -- E. Michael Brandt www.divaHTML.com divaGPS : you-are-here menu highlighting divaFAQ : FAQ pages with pizazz www.valleywebdesigns.com

Re: [WSG] an inline element (inside a block element) sibling ofanother block element

2007-07-26 Thread E Michael Brandt
this thread well enough. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of E Michael Brandt Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 9:38 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] an inline element (inside a block element) sibling ofanother block element we

Re: [WSG] an inline element (inside a block element) sibling ofanother block element

2007-07-26 Thread E Michael Brandt
It appears that it is a no-no, or at least will become so. Does that mean you should go back and redo all your sites? Nope. AFAIK, every browser will handle this just fine, at least for the foreseeable future. -- E. Michael Brandt www.divaHTML.com divaGPS : you-are-here menu highlighting

Re: [WSG] an inline element (inside a block element) sibling ofanother block element

2007-07-26 Thread Ryan Lin
, 2007 9:38 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] an inline element (inside a block element) sibling ofanother block element we agree. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe

Re: [WSG] an inline element (inside a block element) sibling ofanother block element

2007-07-26 Thread E Michael Brandt
I am going to disagree with my own last statement - it may be valid in the sense that it passes Validation testing online, but surely it is not semantically reasonable to have bare text. I am less sure myself about the semantics of bare a tags, but for the sake of symmetry.. -- E.

RE: [WSG] an inline element (inside a block element) sibling ofanother block element

2007-07-26 Thread Jermayn Parker
I am not an expert but from what I understand text, links etc need to be held in block elements ie: p etc for it to semanticly correct. Guessing this is were POSH comes into play. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 27/07/2007 11:18:45 am I just came across some code on a website that I'm maintaining and