Re: [WSG] Firefox filter?

2005-10-30 Thread Kenny Graham
so why not use a Javascript solution? As a horrible understatement, because I'm not very good at javascript ;) ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on

Re: [WSG] Firefox filter?

2005-10-30 Thread Terrence Wood
Is there any valid way make firefox (well, gecko in general) ignore a rule *|* selector {property:value} pretty sure mozilla is the only browser to apply this rule from memory YMMV and you probably want to check KHTML browsers. kind regards Terrence Wood.

RE: [WSG] Firefox filter?

2005-10-30 Thread Rachel Radford
, 29 October 2005 8:17 p.m. To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Firefox filter? I would be concerned about a bug only showing up in Firefox, I believe that hiding something from Firefox is not the way to go, but rather, make it right in Firefox and then worry about the others. Usually

Re: [WSG] Firefox filter?

2005-10-29 Thread Kenny Graham
I would be concerned about a bug only showing up in Firefox, I believe that hiding something from Firefox is not the way to go, but rather, make it right in Firefox and then worry about the others. Usually I'd agree. But in this case, that won't work. :(

Re: [WSG] Firefox filter?

2005-10-29 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Kenny Graham wrote: I would be concerned about a bug only showing up in Firefox, I believe that hiding something from Firefox is not the way to go, but rather, make it right in Firefox and then worry about the others. Usually I'd agree. But in this case, that won't work. :( I don't agree

Re: [WSG] Firefox filter?

2005-10-29 Thread Kenny Graham
I'm also not sure how browsers are supposed to handle a non-repeating animated gif as on-hover background, so I don't know what's correct behavior here. I'm not sure what the correct way is either, but regardless, I don't code to firefox or any other browser first. I code to standards first.

Re: [WSG] Firefox filter?

2005-10-29 Thread Joshua Street
On 10/30/05, Kenny Graham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So back to the original question, is there any way to serve a rule only to firefox (or only to non-firefox) without invalidating the css? Heh, server-side browser sniffing? ;-) /flamebait Josh

Re: [WSG] Firefox filter?

2005-10-29 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Kenny Graham wrote: So back to the original question, is there any way to serve a rule only to firefox (or only to non-firefox) without invalidating the css? Use the http://www.gunlaug.no/contents/styles/target-browser.css and delete the @import for Opera 9+ on top (until the validator

Re: [WSG] Firefox filter?

2005-10-29 Thread Mark Harris
Joshua Street wrote: On 10/30/05, Kenny Graham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So back to the original question, is there any way to serve a rule only to firefox (or only to non-firefox) without invalidating the css? Heh, server-side browser sniffing? ;-) /flamebait Seriously, why is this

Re: [WSG] Firefox filter?

2005-10-29 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
Mark Harris wrote: Seriously, why is this flamebait. I suggested this in another thread a couple of days ago. Is there a problem I'm not aware of with server-side sniffing? Any user agent sniffing (client- or server-side) has two main issues: - to be pedantic, it goes against the idea of a

Re: [WSG] Firefox filter?

2005-10-29 Thread Joshua Street
On 10/30/05, Mark Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Seriously, why is this flamebait. I suggested this in another thread a couple of days ago. Is there a problem I'm not aware of with server-side sniffing? Mm, well... it's not really a problem if it's properly maintained. But, seeing as many

Re: [WSG] Firefox filter?

2005-10-29 Thread Christian Montoya
I'm also not sure how browsers are supposed to handle a non-repeating animated gif as on-hover background, so I don't know what's correct behavior here. I'm not sure what the correct way is either, but regardless, I don't code to firefox or any other browser first. I code to standards

Re: [WSG] Firefox filter?

2005-10-28 Thread Joseph R. B. Taylor
I make it a point to test in Firefox first, since historically it is nearly free of rendering bugs. IE and Opera come next, once the 3 are behaving, you should be in good shape. I would be concerned about a bug only showing up in Firefox, I believe that hiding something from Firefox is not