Re: [WSG] International meetings

2004-04-26 Thread Andy Budd
Peter Firminger wrote: In the members section of the WSG site, you can see how many people are in your area at the bottom of the members homepage ( http://webstandardsgroup.org/manage/login_view.cfm ). Cool, there are two other people from Brighton on this list. waves type=hello / Andy Budd

[WSG] print headers/footers

2004-04-26 Thread Barbara Dozetos
Hi all -- Me again, working on a print style sheet. Is there some way to control the headers and footers that are automatically added to a page printed from a browser? Can I add something to the line where the page numbers are? Barb -- Barbara Dozetos [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [WSG] print headers/footers

2004-04-26 Thread Barbara Dozetos
I should have added that I'm looking for something that works in IE for 98 as the lowest common denominator... That's what most of our visitors use. Barb Barbara Dozetos wrote: Hi all -- Me again, working on a print style sheet. Is there some way to control the headers and footers that are

RE: [WSG] print headers/footers

2004-04-26 Thread P.H.Lauke
As far as I'm aware, those are handled by the user agent and outside of the remit of CSS, if you will... Personally, it would strike me as being an interference with the users' expected behaviour if you changed that... Patrick Patrick H. Lauke Webmaster /

Re: [WSG] print headers/footers

2004-04-26 Thread Neerav
http://www.codestyle.org/css/media/FAQ.shtml#printmargins says that this cannot be done Q: How can I control print headers and footers with CSS? The page numbers, URL, date and other peripheral information that may be printed with a Web page cannot be controlled by CSS in mainstream Web

Re: [WSG] print headers/footers

2004-04-26 Thread Barbara Dozetos
I've done that with a header for the print version only, but because we can't reliably control page breaks, I'm lost on how to make sure our logo shows up on each printed page. All is fine if it prints out to only one page, or even two, because I can use both a header and a footer, but the

Re: [WSG] print headers/footers

2004-04-26 Thread Robert O'Neill
Just a quick note to all UK designers out there (can't speak for other countries), if you design with 'most of our visitors' in mind be afraid, very afraid. A printed page with headers and footers stating Disabilities Discrimination Act 1995 could be heading your way soon. Unless your

Re: [WSG] print headers/footers

2004-04-26 Thread Zulema Ortiz
Barb, I don't believe there's a way to control the actual headers/footers printed on a page by a browser. That'd be like trying to change the default buttons on the browsers' toolbars. But someone correct me if I'm wrong, cuz that'd be kinda interesting if that *could* be controlled. :D A

Re: [WSG] print headers/footers

2004-04-26 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
I don't believe there's a way to control the actual headers/footers printed on a page by a browser. That'd be like trying to change the default buttons on the browsers' toolbars. But someone correct me if I'm wrong, cuz that'd be kinda interesting if that *could* be controlled. :D Well, it

RE: [WSG] print headers/footers

2004-04-26 Thread P.H.Lauke
In this particular case though, I'm assuming the styling that Barbara is after is only an extra feature, some eye candy, and that the printouts still make sense on browsers that don't support print styles...so, as well meant as the warning was, let's not lose sight of the real issues. If I say

RE: [WSG] print headers/footers

2004-04-26 Thread Mark Thomas
The only method I can think of is to use a server side control to maybe split the page content down into manageable chunks, by manageable, I mean take a reasoned guess as to how much page content will fit onto one printed page :( ), and then present a control page to users whereby they can print

[Maybe Spam] RE: [WSG] print headers/footers

2004-04-26 Thread Robert O'Neill
It was not Barbara's features I was highlighting (please don't take that the wrong way), just the fact that generally designing a web site for a majority, inherently means you are discriminating against a minority. Minorities rule in a court of law.

RE: [WSG] print headers/footers

2004-04-26 Thread P.H.Lauke
Actually, by default most browsers (nowadays anyway) seem to leave out background images (and colours...and borders...etc) on printouts; this needs to be explicitly *enabled*. P Patrick H. Lauke Webmaster / University of Salford http://www.salford.ac.uk

RE: [Maybe Spam] RE: [WSG] print headers/footers

2004-04-26 Thread P.H.Lauke
However, if it comes to court, the case will - in my mind anyway - have to be made about specific features that are or aren't discriminating, and not (just) general principles. As I said - and I don't think we're disagreeing here, just want to spell it out - you *can* design for the majority,

RE: [WSG] print headers/footers

2004-04-26 Thread P.H.Lauke
From: Barbara Dozetos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [snip] but because we can't reliably control page breaks, Page-break-after should be supported since IE4.0 (not tested it though) http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-CSS2/page.html#page-break-props P Patrick H. Lauke

[WSG] Amaya ---- Piece Of Crap...

2004-04-26 Thread Chris Stratford
Hey Everyone... Is it just me, or is the Amaya validator a piece of junk?? Does anyone here use it at alll??? more info here: http://www.w3.org/Amaya/User/BinDist.html Cheers -- Chris Stratford [EMAIL PROTECTED] Http://www.neester.com *

RE: [Maybe Spam] RE: [WSG] print headers/footers

2004-04-26 Thread Robert O'Neill
Doh! article URL http://www.computerweekly.com/articles/article.asp?liArticleID=129919liFlavourID=1 I think we will have to wait for some decent case law before we fully realise how this will effect web designers. A recent article in computer weekly 'Ignoring disabled web access will

Re: [WSG] Amaya ---- Piece Of Crap...

2004-04-26 Thread Tonico Strasser
Chris Stratford wrote: Hey Everyone... Is it just me, or is the Amaya validator a piece of junk?? Does anyone here use it at alll??? Amaya isn't a validator, is it? It's a quite good XHTML editor IMHO. I wrote some structured documentation with Amaya, the keyboard shortcuts are nice. I quess

Re: [WSG] Amaya ---- Piece Of Crap...

2004-04-26 Thread Vlad Alexander \(XStandard\)
I think XStandard will meet most of your criteria - stable, user-friendly, lightweight, standards-compliant and FREE. As far as platform independent - maybe sometime in the future :-) Regards, -Vlad XStandard Development Team XStandard - XHTML 1.1 WYSIWYG editor - Original Message -

RE: [WSG] print headers/footers

2004-04-26 Thread Darian Cabot
I'm fairly sure the page-break-after won't help here. That doesn't add some thing after a page break. E.g. it can't be used to stick a logo after every page break (to show on the top of each new page). page-break-after tells the browser to break the page after the element. For example... p

Re: [WSG] print headers/footers

2004-04-26 Thread Gary Menzel
I've done that with a header for the print version only, but because we can't reliably control page breaks, I'm lost on how to make sure our logo shows up on each printed page. All is fine if it prints out to only one page, or even two, because I can use both a header and a footer, but the

[WSG] Ten questions for Keith Robinson

2004-04-26 Thread russ - maxdesign
Interview number 2 is live: Keith Robinson (of Asterisk fame) talks about web standards, frustration, validation, accessibility, usability and the Golden Triangle. http://webstandardsgroup.org/features/keith-robinson.cfm Thanks Russ * The

RE: [WSG] 100% table inside auto width div

2004-04-26 Thread dean burge
thanks jason. adding a doctype to the example code fixed that, but uncovered more problems which i managed to figure out with the help of the article you posted. i noticed i have white space being output in my jsp template before the doctype line - tidying that up fixed the problem. -d Jason

Re: [WSG] Trying to add a back to top link

2004-04-26 Thread Jake Badger
I think it's something like echo a href=\$_SERVER['PHP_SELF'].$_SERVER [QUERY_STRING].#top\top/a; but that's off the top of my head (as we don't have an SQL enviroment at work for me to test it with). Jake Hello, I am trying to add a back to top of page link to PHP dynamically generated

Re: [WSG] Trying to add a back to top link

2004-04-26 Thread Jake Badger
whoops, still haven't been able to test it, but I see I'm, missing a dot, so it should be: echo a href=\.$_SERVER['PHP_SELF'].$_SERVER [QUERY_STRING].#top\top/a; I think it's something like echo a href=\$_SERVER['PHP_SELF'].$_SERVER [QUERY_STRING].#top\top/a; but that's off the top of