[WSG] A quick breakdown of some code today

2004-12-07 Thread russ - maxdesign
Today, Amit posted a piece of CSS code to the list. I remember when I first started getting into CSS, code like this would make me freak out: div.content a[href^=http:] { background: transparent url('path/to/aoutside.gif') 100% 50% no-repeat; padding-right: 10px; } So, for those that are

RE: [WSG] A quick breakdown of some code today

2004-12-07 Thread Patrick Lauke
From: russ - maxdesign I remember when I first started getting into CSS, code like this would make me freak out: [...] So, for those that are reasonably new to CSS, I'd thought I'd break it down into bite size pieces. And for those rare occasions where Russ isn't handily available to

Re: [WSG] A quick breakdown of some code today

2004-12-07 Thread Jason Foss
Errr... Russ made more sense to me... What browsers support CSS3? I'm guessing Firefox does/might. Are there others? On Tue, 7 Dec 2004 11:28:38 -, Patrick Lauke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: russ - maxdesign I remember when I first started getting into CSS, code like this would

Re: [WSG] a quick target question

2004-12-07 Thread Mordechai Peller
Patrick H. Lauke wrote: Veine K Vikberg wrote: So it's not WAI that's unforgiving, but Bobby in its miopic application of the guidelines (which are, at this stage, already quite out of date in many areas such as the one discussed here). There is really a quite simple solution, which is what you

Re: [WSG] A quick breakdown of some code today

2004-12-07 Thread Kornel Lesinski
What browsers support CSS3? I'm guessing Firefox does/might. Are there others? Ofcourse there isn't a browser that supports more than little bits of CSS3. Gecko supports CSS3 selectors Opera supports CSS3 media queries Explorer supports some of the CSS3 text module (text-justify: newspaper; is

Re: [WSG] Semantic Breadcrumbs

2004-12-07 Thread JonathanC
At the risk of getting this started up again... (I tend to read my WSG emails in a batch every day or so.) Mordechai Peller wrote on 06/12/2004 09:31:41 PM: If breadcrumbs show where you are in the site you get: Level 1 Level 2 Level 3 Level 4 Level 5 If, on the other had, they show

Re: [WSG] A quick breakdown of some code today

2004-12-07 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh
On 7 Dec 2004, at 8:35 pm, Jason Foss wrote: Errr... Russ made more sense to me... What browsers support CSS3? I'm guessing Firefox does/might. Are there others? On Tue, 7 Dec 2004 11:28:38 -, Patrick Lauke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: russ - maxdesign I remember when I first started

Re: [WSG] Semantic Breadcrumbs - slightly tangential

2004-12-07 Thread JonathanC
Mordechai Peller wrote on 06/12/2004 09:41:20 PM: Patrick Lauke wrote: ...and discussing the finer points of semantics in a markup language as coarse and unsuitable as HTML ends up being a tad futile Futile? Perhaps sometimes. Though I must admit, when there is a good reason to do so

Re: [WSG] New Zealand Web Standards??

2004-12-07 Thread Terrence Wood
Joe - like your work. Point 2 about interested amateurs is more a commentary about the state of web design in general, not specifically those working in govt departments ;-) More about the guidelines lacking teeth: Cabinet paper is here.

[WSG] Brisbane Meeting Tonight - Are YOU going?

2004-12-07 Thread Lea de Groot
Tonight sees our delayed Brisbane meeting. Hopefully that wet stuff falling from the sky wont have any effect on numbers (what is it with the 2nd wednesday of the month?) We look forward to a great presentation from Scott Barnes on Now and Zen - A journey into the Fantasy and Reality of CSS For

Re: [WSG] Semantic Breadcrumbs

2004-12-07 Thread Andy Kirkwood | MOTIVE
Been following the breadcrumb (BC) discussion, and think it may come down to defining the *purpose* of the BC. Through a process of distillation I've arrived at the following conclusions; The ('correct') semantic markup of a BC should be based on what the BC primarily 'means'. There is the

Re: [WSG] DOM and Standard

2004-12-07 Thread Lindsay Evans
Hi Berry, Not really much out there on theory, but Gecko has a pretty compliant DOM implementation. The Gecko DOM Reference: http://www.mozilla.org/docs/dom/domref/ The Mozilla Object Reference: http://mozref.com/ On Tue, 7 Dec 2004 16:33:27 -0500, berry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, but I

Re: [WSG] Firefox screen-reader emulator

2004-12-07 Thread Kay Smoljak
On Tue, 07 Dec 2004 12:14:18 -0500, Jeffrey Hardy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've never seen a *real* screen-reader There's a number of different screenreaders available for testing. Some are free, others have trial periods. I recently installed the demo version of JAWS under Virtual PC - it will

Re: [WSG] Firefox screen-reader emulator

2004-12-07 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
Kay Smoljak wrote: There's a number of different screenreaders available for testing. Some are free, others have trial periods. I recently installed the demo version of JAWS under Virtual PC - it will run for 40 minutes, which gives you plenty of time to test a few sites. I'll have my usual rant

Re: [WSG] No skipping to content needed?

2004-12-07 Thread Mordechai Peller
Ben Curtis wrote: A lot of people put an in-page anchor at the top to skip navigation or skip to main content. Are there any hidden gotchas with simply putting the navigation last and positioning it first? With all the discussion about whether content or navigation first is better for the

Re: [WSG] Firefox screen-reader emulator

2004-12-07 Thread Rob McCormack
Just wanted to add: One of our products is a FREE text-to-speech reader. http://readplease.com And we offer a toolbar for IE that is not free called ReadingBar. ReadingBar also supports VXML. Rob - - - - - - - - - - - Rob McCormack, P. Eng. President ReadPlease Corporation *

Re: [WSG] Firefox screen-reader emulator

2004-12-07 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
Mordechai Peller wrote: Do any of these, or any others for that matter, support aural style sheets? from that list, emacSpeak only, unless things have changed recently... -- Patrick H. Lauke _ re·dux (adj.): brought back; returned. used

Re: [WSG] Semantic Breadcrumbs

2004-12-07 Thread Kay Smoljak
On Wed, 8 Dec 2004 10:54:54 +1300, Andy Kirkwood | MOTIVE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Been following the breadcrumb (BC) discussion, and think it may come down to defining the *purpose* of the BC. Through a process of distillation I've arrived at the following conclusions; The ('correct')

Re: [WSG] A quick breakdown of some code today

2004-12-07 Thread Chris Blown
russ - maxdesign wrote: a[href^=http:] { background: green; } How about this one? input[value=blue] { background: blue; } Apply this to a form input and try typing in blue, is the CSS applied in real time? Not so in Firefox.. Even though the DOM knows that the value has been updated the CSS

RE: [WSG] float and table width combination problem in IE

2004-12-07 Thread Cade Whitbourn
Ah, sorry for not being more specific: The example page I've created is a simplified version of the actual page layout. The red box does in fact need to be floated due to other dependant and related page elements. -Original Message- From: Natalie Buxton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent:

RE: [WSG] float and table width combination problem in IE

2004-12-07 Thread Cade Whitbourn
Thanks Henry. I have looked into hasLayout but applying dimensions to the various boxs (including dummy container boxes I created) doesn't seem to affect the behaviour of the misbehaving table. Any other suggestions? -Original Message- From: Henry Tapia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent:

[WSG] pasting with line feed in mozilla input form

2004-12-07 Thread Leigh Morresi
Hi there, got a problem with mozilla but cant find the answer, seems to happen mostly under windows. If a form has an INPUT object, and the user copies some text into their clipboard/buffer than contains a \n or \r (line feed or return carriage), this gets fed into the INPUT object and the input

Re: [WSG] A quick breakdown of some code today

2004-12-07 Thread Amit Karmakar
firefox party=this fridayAlright Russ/firefox, does that mean I can't ask anymore CSS questions :P On Wed, 08 Dec 2004 13:38:28 +1100, Chris Blown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: russ - maxdesign wrote: a[href^=http:] { background: green; } How about this one? input[value=blue] {

[WSG] Standard for text email newsletters

2004-12-07 Thread Mike Brown
Hi has anyone come across, or used, the following text email newsletter standard: http://www.headstar.com/ten/ If so, or even if you haven't but are able to look through, how useful do you think it is? And do you think it has potential in terms of encouraging organisations to adopt it as a

Re: [WSG] Firefox screen-reader emulator

2004-12-07 Thread Kay Smoljak
On Wed, 08 Dec 2004 01:21:14 +, Patrick H. Lauke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kay Smoljak wrote: There's a number of different screenreaders available for testing. Some are free, others have trial periods. I recently installed the demo version of JAWS under Virtual PC - it will run for 40

Re: [WSG] float and table width combination problem in IE

2004-12-07 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Cade Whitbourn wrote: Can anyone help me identify what's going wrong with the following layout in IE6/Windows. I've been struggling with it all morning, and I suspect there may be a simple fix that I've just overlooked. The page: http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~cadewhitbourn/test/demo.htm The

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