RE: [WSG] standards, semantics and strict/valid Script Sources

2005-12-01 Thread Mike Foskett
Hi Jay, I would recommend http://onlinetools.org. Clean unobtrusive scripts, very nice. Though it obviously depends on what you are looking for. mike 2k:)2 marqueeblink mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] work: http://webSemantics.co.uk rest: http://2kool2.com play:

the basics of Firefox (was RE: [WSG] BBC E-mail: Overhaul for Firefox web browser)

2005-12-01 Thread Patrick Lauke
Welcome to the Firefox support list...aeh... Anyway, the installation block has been in Firefox for ages (at least since 0.9, I think). Did you then actually click the "Edit Options" button, like it says right there? Can't be more explicit than that... Patrick From: [EMAIL

[WSG] Mambo Accessibility

2005-12-01 Thread Lloyd
Hi Guys, I have been asked to work on a web site and Mambo is the current CMS being used. They want to, if possible, keep Mambo as they're CMS but upon inspecting it I am surrounded by tables and poor markup. It does not even seem possible (Without hacking the source) to add ALT text to some

Re: [WSG] Mambo Accessibility

2005-12-01 Thread Bruce
I gave up trying to do anything with Mambo. Expression Engine, Movable Type, and Wordpress are Standards based and simple and easy to configure, All three validate out of the box and don't require a two year course and beating your head on the desk to reconfigureafter several years of trying

Re: [WSG] Mambo Accessibility

2005-12-01 Thread Bruce
Woops, missed this: If Mambo can be configured easy, as some claim, why has there not been a ton of templates available long ago??? On different CMS type forums I see problems mambo related all the time... Nuff said ;-) Bruce Prochnau BKDesign Solutions - Original Message - From: Lloyd

RE: [WSG] Mambo Accessibility

2005-12-01 Thread Carlos Revillo
I used mambo to do this... www.jabary.com Carlos Revillo Tanta Tecnología y Comunicación Grupo Onetec c/ Julián Camarillo 26 1º Of. 2 28037 Madrid Tel.: 91.440.10.40 Fax: 91.304.91.24 www.tantacom.com www.grupoonetec.com -Mensaje original- De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [WSG] Mambo Accessibility

2005-12-01 Thread Justin Thorp
I am a big fan of Wordpress [1].  I personally use it, as well as use it on a lot of projects for clients.  I have found it very easy to configure.  If you know a HTML and a little PHP, it is very versatile.For one project, I was tasked with taking a look at the accessibility of Mambo and the

Re: [WSG] Mambo Accessibility

2005-12-01 Thread Steve Ferguson
On Thu, 1 Dec 2005 20:15:13 +0800 Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Guys, ... Is there a way to make Mambo compatible (A large reason for the work is to allow blind users to get value from the site) with accessiblily and hopefully web standards? Is there another CMS that you would mention

Re: [WSG] FF1.5 and font sizes

2005-12-01 Thread Felix Miata
Zulema wrote: I've upgraded my Firefox[1] to the new 1.5 version and it seems to me that some website's font sizes have become a lot smaller. Knowing your operating system and a longer list of URLs exhibiting this behavior would help. There were bugs fixed in 1.5 that affect pages sizing

RE: [WSG] FF1.5 and font sizes

2005-12-01 Thread Steven C. Perkins
I am having the same problem with GMAIL. Using ctrl-+ gives me a too large font and no reflow at the 3rd expansion and a too small font at lower expansions. Regards, Steven C. Perkins At 10:41 AM 12/1/2005, you wrote: I'm unable to duplicate this. I would try resetting your text size to

Re: [WSG] FF1.5 and font sizes

2005-12-01 Thread Brian Cummiskey
Peter Leing wrote: I'm unable to duplicate this. Me either. Google's fonts haven't changed for me, nor alistapart. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some

Re: [WSG] Mambo Accessibility

2005-12-01 Thread Neal Watkins
What about www.textpattern.com has anyone tried this? ~n uoting Steve Ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thu, 1 Dec 2005 20:15:13 +0800 Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Guys, ... Is there a way to make Mambo compatible (A large reason for the work is to allow blind users to get value from

RE: [WSG] Mambo Accessibility

2005-12-01 Thread Ted Drake
www.GAWDS.org (Guild of Accessible Web Developers) has a fully accessible CMS platform. I would recommend moving away from Mambo if you are interested in standards. Ted -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Ferguson Sent: Thursday,

RE: [WSG] Help FF v1.5 and Flash on a Mac

2005-12-01 Thread Mike Foskett
I need some help urgently. Just downloaded the latest release v1.5 and Flash Player v8. Now my Flash audio stream buttons no longer display, just macromedia's f. What's happened? It appears perfectly on my PC version. http://bangersandmashed.com The Macromedia site reports The Flash Player as

[WSG] Hello from Perú

2005-12-01 Thread José Kusunoki Gutiérrez
Hello, My name is José Kusunoki im 23 and i work in a newspaper in the Multimedia Infographics area, im interested in standards and Mambo, how do you resolve theImage Galleryproblem and the image management problem?, i've heard that its too difficult to find an image gallery module and

Re: [WSG] Mambo Accessibility

2005-12-01 Thread Michael Donnermeyer
TextPattern works well, particularly now that they've released a final version. I used WordPress up until v.1.5 due to TXP being in beta and RC versions, but have since slowly switched to TXP for all my sites. The only site I can think of at the moment that is running TXP (and doing a

Re: [WSG] Help FF v1.5 and Flash on a Mac

2005-12-01 Thread Tom Livingston
On Thu, 01 Dec 2005 12:31:27 -0500, Mike Foskett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now my Flash audio stream buttons no longer display Confirmed -- Tom Livingston Senior Multimedia Artist Media Logic www.mlinc.com Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/

[WSG] Re: UK Government Web Accessibility

2005-12-01 Thread Edward Clarke
Hi WSG, I’ve just been informed of a BBC article referencing the UK Government and accessibility. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4478702.stm The stats claimed are actually a lot sharper than I'd imagine but I can see why this is the case. My current contract means I provide ecommerce

[WSG] XSL and CDATA

2005-12-01 Thread Ted Drake
Hi Everyone I just posted something about XSL and CDATA. I'm not announcing it as if I'm standing on the mountain preaching to the masses. I'm hoping that if I'm wrong in my logic, someone could clear it up in the comments. http://www.tdrake.net/xsl-cdata-and-me/ I guess I could have just

RE: [WSG] FF1.5 and font sizes

2005-12-01 Thread Zulema
-Original Message- I've upgraded my Firefox[1] to the new 1.5 version and it seems to me that some website's font sizes have become a lot smaller. Quoting Peter Leing [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'm unable to duplicate this. I would try resetting your text size to normal, or createing a new

Re: [WSG] Mambo Accessibility

2005-12-01 Thread Terrence Wood
Lloyd said: Is there a way to make Mambo compatible (A large reason for the work is to allow blind users to get value from the site) with accessiblily and hopefully web standards? Are you refering to the the CMS interface itself (i.e. the admin bits) or to the public facing output? Most CMS's

Re: [WSG] FF1.5 and font sizes

2005-12-01 Thread Stuart Sherwood
I created this problem for myself by altering the default font preferences under Tools Options Content. If you also changed these settings, this might be the cause. Returning in to Times New Roman, 16 fixed it for me. Regards, Stuart **

Re: [WSG] Konquerer becomes the 2nd browser to pass Acid2

2005-12-01 Thread Alan Trick
While I share you feellings, I also understand why Acid2 wasn't high on the list of the Mozilla folks. The test itself isn't the be all and end all of stadards. I personally think that building SVG support into firefox was a much more important goal and I can't wait till Konqi and Safari support

Re: the basics of Firefox (was RE: [WSG] BBC E-mail: Overhaul for Firefox web browser)

2005-12-01 Thread Adam Morris
I'm having the same trouble and, yes, I've clicked the bloody Edit Options button but bog all happens!! ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on

RE: [WSG] Mambo Accessibility

2005-12-01 Thread Paul Noone
Except that they still insist on membership before you can view such pages. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ted Drake Sent: Friday, 2 December 2005 4:15 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: RE: [WSG] Mambo Accessibility

Re: [WSG] Mambo Accessibility

2005-12-01 Thread Christian Montoya
If you want to find out which CMS is good for your needs, you might want to check out: http://www.opensourcecms.com/ They have live installs of maybe hundreds of CMS, all rated, user comments, organized in categories. The installs are wiped every 2 hours, so you can go in with the demo password

RE: [WSG] Mambo Accessibility

2005-12-01 Thread Paul Noone
You can also directly compare hundreds of CMSs and choose them based on selection criteria from this helpful site: http://cmsmatrix.org However, if you're after a simplt, straight-forward no-nonsense, accessible and XHTML compliant CMS I'm going to recommend CMS Made Simple again. It's in it's

Re: [WSG] FF1.5 and font sizes

2005-12-01 Thread Christian Montoya
On 12/1/05, Zulema [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- I've upgraded my Firefox[1] to the new 1.5 version and it seems to me that some website's font sizes have become a lot smaller. Quoting Peter Leing [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'm unable to duplicate this. I would try

Re: [WSG] Standards and Aesthetics

2005-12-01 Thread Christian Montoya
On 12/1/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, is the technology dictating the look, or are all these things just accidents of history because some major relaunch like the stopdesign/AdaptivePath redesign of Blogger looked that way? I think what you are talking about are fads.

Re: [WSG] Mambo Accessibility

2005-12-01 Thread Michael Donnermeyer
Actually you can find it, if you take the time to look. Here's the link for non-members (sourced from their Membership Benefits page). http://www.qnecms.co.uk/ On Dec 1, 2005, at 3:36 PM, Paul Noone wrote: Except that they still insist on membership before you can view such pages.

Re: [WSG] Mambo Accessibility

2005-12-01 Thread absalom
I've never used it myself, but you might want to take a look at Joomla. It's compatible with Mambo at this point http://www.joomla.org/index.php?Itemid=44option=com_faqcatid=7 and the developers are at least are trying to be compliant and accessible

RE: [WSG] Standards and Aesthetics

2005-12-01 Thread Ted Drake
Hi John Sites look similar because the early standards-based web developers were so influential. CSS-based design is different beast than table hacking and people feel more comfortable riffing off a successful site than learning a new technique with a design out of their head. As

Re: [WSG] XSL and CDATA

2005-12-01 Thread Matthew Cruickshank
Ted Drake wrote: I just posted something about XSL and CDATA. I'm not announcing it as if I'm standing on the mountain preaching to the masses. I'm hoping that if I'm wrong in my logic, someone could clear it up in the comments. http://www.tdrake.net/xsl-cdata-and-me/ I guess I could have

RE: [WSG] Mambo Accessibility

2005-12-01 Thread Paul Noone
Michael Donnermeyer deftly quothed: ...if you take the time to look. Ahem. Yes. Thank you, Michael. :* ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on

Re: [WSG] Noise (was) Mambo Accessibility

2005-12-01 Thread absalom
Quoting Nick Gleitzman [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Is it my imagination, or has this list acquired an unreasonable amount of noise lately? Aren't there separate lists for CMS and/or software issues? Call me a grouch, but all I've seen in the last little while has been FF1.5 and Mambo... C'mon,

Re: [WSG] Standards and Aesthetics

2005-12-01 Thread Geoff Deering
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not a question so much as a discussion topic -- is there a particular look to standards websites? Is there an aesthetic developing from the technologies we use? Many standards websites have subtle gradients in backgrounds -- is this because designers are confident

RE: [WSG] Noise (was) Mambo Accessibility

2005-12-01 Thread Paul Noone
Seconded. You're likely to get a more targetted response to your queries as well. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 2 December 2005 9:23 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Noise (was) Mambo

Re: [WSG] Standards and Aesthetics

2005-12-01 Thread Geoff Deering
Ted Drake wrote: Hi John Sites look similar because the early standards-based web developers were so influential. CSS-based design is different beast than table hacking and people feel more comfortable riffing off a successful site than learning a new technique with a design out of their head.

Re: [WSG] Mambo Accessibility

2005-12-01 Thread Vladimir Yashnikov
Hello Michael, I used WordPress up until v.1.5 due to TXP being in beta and RC versions, but have since slowly switched to TXP for all my sites. The only site I can think of at the moment that is running TXP (and doing a good job of it) is Hicks Design (http://

Re: the basics of Firefox (was RE: [WSG] BBC E-mail: Overhaul for Firefox web browser)

2005-12-01 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
Adam Morris wrote: I'm having the same trouble and, yes, I've clicked the bloody Edit Options button but bog all happens!! When things don't work the way they should after an upgrade, uninstall, completely remove the directory FF was installed in, remove the profile folder, and start

[WSG] Training Courses....

2005-12-01 Thread adam reitsma
Good day fellow standardistas,This request is quite off-topic, so please, reply off list.I am looking for training courses - more specifically, interface design, user interaction design, information architecture. I have a very limited amount of time to suggest a course or two to my team leader, so

[WSG] Software support and the WSG list

2005-12-01 Thread James Ellis
Hi all Just another reminder that the WSG list is not the place to discuss software support and bugs in your favourite software. To avoid creating noise on the list, please use the appropriate vendor channel to discuss. If you don't like this or disagree, email the list admins. Don't discuss it

Re: [WSG] FF1.5 and font sizes

2005-12-01 Thread Zulema
Brilliant! thank you! I remember doing that a few days ago, but don't remember why I did it. I'm a bad web developer. :-p ciao, Z Z u l e m a O r t i z w e b d e s i g n e r email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] website : http://zoblue.com/ weblog : http://blog.zoblue.com/ browser :

[WSG] editor

2005-12-01 Thread Lori Cole
I am new to (trying to learn how) constructing standards conforming web pages using XHTML and would like to know what HTML editor you folks that are light years ahead of me would recommend? Like HTMLTidy? I am Windows based with IE v6 which I will soon be switching to Firefox based on this

RE: [WSG] editor

2005-12-01 Thread Peter Williams
From: Lori Cole ...using XHTML and would like to know what HTML editor Like HTMLTidy? HTML-Kit (incorporates Tidy) will work, as will just about any plain text editor, with or without syntax highlighting. EditPad, jEdit, Notetab and so on. jEdit is pretty clever and it runs on most platforms

Re: [WSG] editor

2005-12-01 Thread Bert Doorn
Before we get a flood of posts along the lines of my favourite editor is and mine too ... Have you looked at the resources section of the WSG website? http://webstandardsgroup.org/resources/ Regards -- Bert Doorn, Better Web Design http://www.betterwebdesign.com.au/ Fast-loading,

Re: [WSG] editor

2005-12-01 Thread Steve Clason
On 12/1/2005 6:43 PM Lori Cole wrote: I am new to (trying to learn how) constructing standards conforming web pages using XHTML and would like to know what HTML editor you folks that are light years ahead of me would recommend? Like HTMLTidy? I am Windows based with IE v6 which I will soon

Re: [WSG] editor

2005-12-01 Thread Lachlan Hunt
Lori Cole wrote: I am new to (trying to learn how) constructing standards conforming web pages using XHTML Since you're new, you might want to stick with HTML4 until a) browser support for XHTML increases (IE does not support XHTML), and b) you've learned and understand all the differences

Re: [WSG] editor

2005-12-01 Thread Matthew Cruickshank
Lachlan Hunt wrote: Since you're new, you might want to stick with HTML4 until a) browser support for XHTML increases (IE does not support XHTML), Heh... please elabourate on how IE doesn't support XHTML. .Matthew Cruickshank http://holloway.co.nz/

Re: [WSG] editor

2005-12-01 Thread Lachlan Hunt
Matthew Cruickshank wrote: Lachlan Hunt wrote: Since you're new, you might want to stick with HTML4 until a) browser support for XHTML increases (IE does not support XHTML), Heh... please elabourate on how IE doesn't support XHTML. Try this in IE:

Re: [WSG] Mambo Accessibility

2005-12-01 Thread Lloyd
Guys, Thanks for all the feedback! Backend is important as one of our content providers is blind. Does anyone know much more about Joomla? They are possibly prepared to upgrade (As they see this is just the same thing). I want to know whether its possible to do this with either Mambo or Joomla

Re: [WSG] CSS Validators

2005-12-01 Thread Steve Ferguson
On Nov 28, 2005, at 3:59 PM, Geoff Pack wrote: Alan Trick wrote: Is there a problem with this: http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/DOWNLOAD.html Only that it's written in Java - the server admins here would prefer something else. It looks like we will have to go with it anyway, as we

Re: [WSG] editor

2005-12-01 Thread Matthew Cruickshank
Lachlan Hunt wrote: Try this in IE: http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/wrongWithIE/?chapter=XHTMLwithHeader=1 Oops, that's served as application/xhtml+xml, so it won't work. Here's the same article as text/html: http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/wrongWithIE/?chapter=XHTML One other thing that doesn't

Re: [WSG] XHTML Issues (was: Re: editor)

2005-12-01 Thread Lachlan Hunt
Matthew Cruickshank wrote: Lachlan Hunt wrote: http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/wrongWithIE/?chapter=XHTML ...if you use the ?xml? declaration..., then it will trigger quirks mode in IE6 Right... rather than jumping to conclusions I was just wanting to make sure you were telling a beginner at

Re: [WSG] Standards and Aesthetics

2005-12-01 Thread Andy Kirkwood, Motive
Hi John, Many standards websites have subtle gradients in backgrounds -- is this because designers are confident in using PNG files which do gradients better for smaller file sizes? My opinion is that gradients and textures are introduced to recreate the textures of real world surfaces not

Re: [WSG] XHTML Issues

2005-12-01 Thread Matthew Cruickshank
So, to summarise why you keep saying there's no support for XHTML in IE - not supporting XHTML's HTTP header, - not being able to put ?xml ... ? above the doctype, - the internal rendering engine being a tagsoup parser, rather than an XML parser. And therefore this means IE doesn't even have

Re: [WSG] XHTML Issues

2005-12-01 Thread Bert Doorn
G'day If you're not using the right MIME type, you may as well be using HTML4, as you're just relying on browsers error recovery techniques to understand XHTML. I code in xhtml Strict and serve it as text/html. My code is future-proof, valid and well structured. If I code in HTML4,

[WSG] Curse you IE! Float Drop suggestions?

2005-12-01 Thread Joseph R. B. Taylor
Greetings all, I'm hoping one of you CSS gurus out there who remember the cures for all of IE's quirks can solve this float drop instance please. Here's the mockup I need to code up: http://sausalito.sitesbyjoe.com/mockup.htm Here's the coded up page thus far:

Re: [WSG] Curse you IE! Float Drop suggestions?

2005-12-01 Thread Joseph R. B. Taylor
I managed to solve my problems by simply stepping around the issue. It does still leave the question of somehow removing the 3px space from around images in IE which is the root of the troubles I was having. Thanks, Joe Taylor http://sitesbyjoe.com Joseph R. B. Taylor wrote: Greetings