RE: [WSG] Tiling image problem

2007-05-21 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It depends the kind of layout you have. The best and the easiest way to have the 300px in ur bg image itself, eahtever clor you want. regards -P www.puneetsakhuja.com/new Original Message: - From: Cole Kuryakin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 13:18:17 +0800 To:

RE: [WSG] Tiling image problem

2007-05-21 Thread Kepler Gelotte
Hi Cole, I think the problem is the repeat-y will fill the image vertically over the entire contents no matter where you position it initially. You may try a vertical 1px by 1000px (or taller than your page will ever be) image. And use the following: background:

Re: [WSG] Tiling image problem

2007-05-21 Thread Nick Cowie
Hi #wrapper { position: relative; width: 770px; margin: 0 auto; text-align: left; background: url(/resources/5661/assets/images_medical/wrapper_tile.jpg) repeat-y 0 300px; } Should work, my suggestion is try it with a 770by2px image, I have had weird

Re: [WSG] Tiling image problem

2007-05-21 Thread Paul Novitski
At 5/20/2007 10:18 PM, Cole Kuryakin wrote: I'm setting a 1px by 770px image to repeat vertically within a wrapper div. By the way, asking the browser to replicate a 1px-thick image will occupy a lot more CPU cycles than if you dimension your image to be fatter and replicate, for example,

Re: [WSG] css type loop

2007-05-21 Thread Mordechai Peller
Paul Novitski wrote: Mordechai, please elaborate on this point: how does HTML lose semantic value when ids classes are added? I think of ids classes as being semantically neutral or inert. When used properly, ids and classes add semantic value. (That ids and classes can add value is, in

Re: [WSG] css type loop

2007-05-21 Thread Rob Kirton
More precisely, the use of id and class can only add semantic value to developers or to those who have to maintain the site. They have no bearing on real world semantics in terms of benefit derived by end users and page retrieval via search engines. To that end they are semantically neutral --

Re: [WSG] css type loop

2007-05-21 Thread Stuart Foulstone
Hi, Or rather microformats give senatic value to certain classes for the use of external programs. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microformats Normal CSS markup improves semantics by removing presentational dross. On Mon, May 21, 2007 10:43 am, Mordechai Peller wrote: Paul Novitski wrote:

[WSG] Image in a label in IE

2007-05-21 Thread Paul Collins
Hi all, Just encountered a problem where IE won't do anything if you add an image inside your label, that is you can't click on the label to activate the radio, checkbox etc. I found this idea, which sounded good, but the Javascript conflicts with another onclick event. Just wondering if anyone

Re: [WSG] css type loop

2007-05-21 Thread Anders Nawroth
Rob Kirton skrev: More precisely, the use of id and class can only add semantic value to developers or to those who have to maintain the site. They have no bearing on real world semantics in terms of benefit derived by end users and page retrieval via search engines. Take a look at this:

RE: [WSG] Tiling image problem

2007-05-21 Thread Cole Kuryakin
Thanks to all for weighing-in on this one and appreciate the side-notes on 1px tall vs. 2px or more tall tiling background images. Unfortunate that we can't determine a vertical start-point for a tiling image but I've learned something new. Thanks again to everyone. Cole -Original

Re: [WSG] css type loop

2007-05-21 Thread Rob Kirton
Anders Thanks for the info, I wasn't aware of this particular plugin; and as you suggest, better again if this or something similar is supported as standard in a wide range of user agents. Agent support of extended HTML is certainly a far better means of adoption, than the approach of having to

RE: [WSG] Tiling image problem

2007-05-21 Thread Kepler Gelotte
Hi Cole, I think the problem is the repeat-y will fill the image vertically over the entire contents no matter where you position it initially. You may try a vertical 1px by 1000px (or taller than your page will ever be) image. And use the following: background:

RE: [WSG] Tiling image problem

2007-05-21 Thread Stuart Foulstone
Or you could do the same but make the first 300px of the images transparent - so you don't need to bother about positioning 300px down. On Mon, May 21, 2007 4:16 pm, Kepler Gelotte wrote: Hi Cole, I think the problem is the repeat-y will fill the image vertically over the entire contents

Re: [WSG] width of inline lists

2007-05-21 Thread Designer
Thierry Koblentz wrote: Before you use a table, check this link: http://www.tjkdesign.com/articles/make_an_html_list_look_like_a_table.asp Ignore the script solution and look at the CSS rules in there. --- Regards, Thierry | www.TJKDesign.com Done that Thierry, thank you. Works fine!

Re: [WSG] css type loop

2007-05-21 Thread Lucien Stals
Thanks for that :) Lucien. Lucien Stals [EMAIL PROTECTED] Breton Slivka [EMAIL PROTECTED] 22/05/07 9:24 AM Tell that to this search engine: http://kitchen.technorati.com/search/ On 21/05/2007, at 9:31 PM, Rob Kirton wrote: More precisely, the use of id and class can only add semantic value

Re: [WSG] css type loop

2007-05-21 Thread Breton Slivka
Tell that to this search engine: http://kitchen.technorati.com/search/ On 21/05/2007, at 9:31 PM, Rob Kirton wrote: More precisely, the use of id and class can only add semantic value to developers or to those who have to maintain the site. They have no bearing on real world semantics in

Re: [WSG] css type loop

2007-05-21 Thread Lucien Stals
You could use the same argument to say that all markup in sematicly neutral. That the B tag and STRONG tags have the same semantic weight since end users, the consumers of the web, nerevr look at the markup and are largely uninterested in how the content gets to be that way it is. We could easily

[WSG] Site Check - Streaming Media

2007-05-21 Thread Parker, Simi (DPS)
Hi everyone I am investigating some potential issues with our live broadcasting service and if you use an O/S / browser / media player configuration other than Windows / Internet Explorer / Windows Media player, I would really appreciate your feedback and/or assistance. I would particularly

RE: [WSG] css type loop

2007-05-21 Thread Thierry Koblentz
But at the end of the day, this will only piss of the people on this mailing list, and the next developer to work on your web site. The users will still see a nice bold heading. The semantics are meanlingless to them. Actually with your example, I believe there are more users who would be

Re: [WSG] Image in a label in IE

2007-05-21 Thread Samuel Tan
http://www.chriserwin.com/scripts/crir/ This is a script that does that. It's a good reference i guess. Sam Paul Collins wrote: Hi all, Just encountered a problem where IE won't do anything if you add an image inside your label, that is you can't click on the label to activate the radio,

Re: [WSG] Site Check - Streaming Media

2007-05-21 Thread Nick Fitzsimons
On 22 May 2007, at 02:31:29, Parker, Simi ((DPS)) wrote: Hi everyone I am investigating some potential issues with our live broadcasting service and if you use an O/S / browser / media player configuration other than Windows / Internet Explorer / Windows Media player, I would really

RE: [WSG] css type loop

2007-05-21 Thread Lucien Stals
Good point. Thanks. L. Lucien Stals [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thierry Koblentz [EMAIL PROTECTED] 22/05/07 11:46 AM But at the end of the day, this will only piss of the people on this mailing list, and the next developer to work on your web site. The users will still see a nice bold heading. The

[WSG] dl v table for form layout

2007-05-21 Thread Benedict Wyss
Hi all, I am having a discussion with colleagues here at work (won't mention our site as it stinks) about the best way forward for form layouts. I have one person saying he will continue to use tables till otherwise informed. I have another who uses none of the above, which you can imaging is

Re: [WSG] dl v table for form layout

2007-05-21 Thread Joshua Street
My vote generally goes in for tables. Use th cells appropriately and there's a clear relationship there. Definition lists are semantically on par, but often harder to implement/require effort to make them *look like a table* (which is what people expect when filling out forms, on paper or on the

Re: [WSG] dl v table for form layout

2007-05-21 Thread Joseph R. B. Taylor
Using the nbsp; for layout is the worst of the ideas and should not be considered for the final form. Tables, while frowned upon / argued over / etc, are still the most reliable way to layout COMPLEX forms, for simple forms you don't need tables at all. Do a search for accessible CSS form

Re: [WSG] dl v table for form layout

2007-05-21 Thread Kane Tapping
My view: Use HTML for content Use CSS for presentation Use tables only for tabular data WCAG 1.0 has the following guidelines applicable to this question. 3.3 Use style sheets to control layout and presentation. 5.1 For data tables, identify row and column headers. 5.3 Do not use tables for