Re: [WSG] How many of us are public and how many private?

2007-09-12 Thread Andrew Cunningham
John Horner wrote: I've noticed that a lot of articles about web design seem to assume that the web developer/designer is working in the commercial sector, and often it's assumed that we're freelance too. I'd argue that not only the articles, but some of the tools and CMS are more aimed at

RE: [WSG] How many of us are public and how many private?

2007-09-12 Thread Andrew Boyd
Hi, I am currently Canberra-based and tend to more government than corporate work - I think that this is just the nature of the local market. I've worked in corporate environments in the past, but nowadays mostly government. Best regards, Andrew Andrew Boyd Consultant SMS Management

Re: [WSG] How many of us are public and how many private?

2007-09-12 Thread Barney Carroll
Public, and I work with a small team of specialists. As far as I see it, the public sector is fairly serious and strong transferable competencies are demanded from you. As such you tend to get less nonsense communication with clients, you're constantly developing a more honest expertise, and

RE: [WSG] How many of us are public and how many private?

2007-09-12 Thread James Leslie
I work for a commercial agency making microsites and have done freelancing in the private sector too. I haven't to date worked in the Public sector and don't anticipate doing so. I think the private sector probably allows more creative freedom (taking into account company branding) and less

[WSG] Accessible Open Source CMS

2007-09-12 Thread Web Dandy Design
Hi, Can anyone advise on the most accessible, open-source CMS between Joomla, Drupal or Plone? Thanks, Elaine Web Designer http://www.webdandy.co.uk *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm

Re: [WSG] How many of us are public and how many private?

2007-09-12 Thread Rick Lecoat
On 12/9/07 (06:17) John said: So I wonder, how many people on this list are in the commercial sector and how many are in the non-profit / public / government / education sector? I'm a one-man design studio (can't quite stand the 'boutique' label ;-) and as such I work for whoever brings their

Re: [WSG] Accessible Open Source CMS

2007-09-12 Thread Tee G. Peng
On Sep 12, 2007, at 2:13 AM, Web Dandy Design wrote: Hi, Can anyone advise on the most accessible, open-source CMS between Joomla, Drupal or Plone? Modx cms tee *** List Guidelines:

Re: [WSG] Accessible Open Source CMS

2007-09-12 Thread Marghanita da Cruz
Tee G. Peng wrote: On Sep 12, 2007, at 2:13 AM, Web Dandy Design wrote: Hi, Can anyone advise on the most accessible, open-source CMS between Joomla, Drupal or Plone? Modx cms snip Does anyone have any thoughts on Text Pattern? http://www.textpattern.com/ Marghanita -- Marghanita da

RE: [WSG] How many of us are public and how many private?

2007-09-12 Thread Mohamed Jama
I work for commercial agency that handles both government and public work M. Jama big:interactive 91 Princedale Road Holland Park London W11 4NS Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Direct: +44 (0)20 7313 2262 www.biggroup.co.uk -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [WSG] Accessible Open Source CMS

2007-09-12 Thread Barney Carroll
Web Dandy Design wrote: Hi, Can anyone advise on the most accessible, open-source CMS between Joomla, Drupal or Plone? No takers? I'll answer the question: Plone. You'll need Python (pretty rare on servers as a whole) as opposed to the far more widespread PHP to run the shebang, but I find

Re: [WSG] Accessible Open Source CMS

2007-09-12 Thread David Little
Hi, No takers? I'll answer the question: Plone. I'll second that. We've been using Zope for some time in my current workplace and are now moving to Plone. Plone comes out of the box with good standards support, although you'll naturally want to customise the look and feel -- you can give a

[WSG] Out of Office AutoReply: WSG Digest

2007-09-12 Thread Corby, Richard
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Re: [WSG] Accessible Open Source CMS

2007-09-12 Thread Christian Montoya
On 9/12/07, Marghanita da Cruz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tee G. Peng wrote: On Sep 12, 2007, at 2:13 AM, Web Dandy Design wrote: Hi, Can anyone advise on the most accessible, open-source CMS between Joomla, Drupal or Plone? Modx cms snip Does anyone have any thoughts on Text

Re: [WSG] Accessible Open Source CMS

2007-09-12 Thread Bruce
Can anyone advise on the most accessible, open-source CMS between Joomla, Drupal or Plone? These and related are as accessible as their programmers make them. I find them all difficult to configure for the reason that one is limited my mambots, modules, plugins, etc which are made to add

Re: [WSG] Accessible Open Source CMS

2007-09-12 Thread Rick Lecoat
On 12/9/07 (14:55) Bruce said: These and related are as accessible as their programmers make them. I find them all difficult to configure for the reason that one is limited my mambots, modules, plugins, etc which are made to add functions and wysiwyg editors. All the code in the templates (if

Re: [WSG] Accessible Open Source CMS

2007-09-12 Thread XStandard
This article may be useful: http://juicystudio.com/article/choosing-an-accessible-cms.php Regards, -Vlad http://xstandard.com XStandard XHTML WYSIWYG Editor for CMS *** List Guidelines:

[WSG] width calculation linux / windows

2007-09-12 Thread ben van 't ende [netcreators]
Hey List, I am stuck with a special problem (aren't all problems :-) ). Anyway I have a centered 3col layout with max-width and min-width (resizes nicely to fit 800x600) and left and right col fixed width. I float the columns left,left,right to position the stuff. Needless to say the center

Re: [WSG] How many of us are public and how many private?

2007-09-12 Thread ben van 't ende [netcreators]
Hi, I work for a commercial agency that has government and public clients. gRTz ben John Horner wrote: I've noticed that a lot of articles about web design seem to assume that the web developer/designer is working in the commercial sector, and often it's assumed that we're freelance too.

[WSG] [Plug] Webstock 08

2007-09-12 Thread Mike Brown
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Re: [WSG] Accessible Open Source CMS

2007-09-12 Thread John Faulds
I use both Wordpress and Expression Engine and don't find WP any less capable of outputting exactly what you put into it than EE. The only time I find you ever have to edit core WP files is if you're using the inbuilt sidebar widgets functionality; otherwise it's not an issue. On Wed, 12

Re: [WSG] width calculation linux / windows

2007-09-12 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
ben van 't ende [netcreators] wrote: Hey List, [...] When I drop the borders all is well AFAICS in all browsers. I can see that in the two Linux browsers mentioned before the width of the center column is 2px more than in other browsers. This means to me the width is calculated differently

Re: [WSG] width calculation linux / windows

2007-09-12 Thread Marghanita da Cruz
ben van 't ende [netcreators] wrote: Hey List, I am stuck with a special problem (aren't all problems :-) ). Anyway I have a centered 3col layout with max-width and min-width (resizes nicely to fit 800x600) and left and right col fixed width. I float the columns left,left,right to position the

Re: [WSG] width calculation linux / windows

2007-09-12 Thread ben van 't ende [netcreators]
Wow! Gunlaug. Amazing I knew there had to be a solution. I am still wondering why this works. Isn't CSS wonderous? tHNx a lot ben Gunlaug Sørtun wrote: ben van 't ende [netcreators] wrote: Hey List, [...] When I drop the borders all is well AFAICS in all browsers. I can see that in the

Re: [WSG] Accessible Open Source CMS

2007-09-12 Thread Tee G. Peng
On Sep 12, 2007, at 7:57 AM, Vlad Alexander (XStandard) wrote: This article may be useful: http://juicystudio.com/article/choosing-an-accessible-cms.php Hmm, I wonder why they didn't include Modx. The survey was done in May, maybe Modx (v 0.9.5) wasn't quite ready yet! The v.9.6 has

Re: [WSG] Accessible Open Source CMS

2007-09-12 Thread Tate Johnson
On 12/09/2007, at 7:13 PM, Web Dandy Design wrote: Hi, Can anyone advise on the most accessible, open-source CMS between Joomla, Drupal or Plone? Thanks, I'd encourage you to take a look at Silverstripe. It's flexible -- you have *full* control of the markup that it outputs and it's

Re: [WSG] Accessible Open Source CMS

2007-09-12 Thread XStandard
Tee wrote: Personally I don't think there is a fully accessible WYSIWYG Editor existed that delivers pure clean code. It all depends on how you define fully. XStandard has a keyboard accessible interface and most definitely delivers clean, accessible markup. Regards, -Vlad http://xstandard.com

Re: [WSG] width calculation linux / windows

2007-09-12 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
ben van 't ende [netcreators] wrote: Wow! Gunlaug. Amazing I knew there had to be a solution. I am still wondering why this works. Isn't CSS wonderous? Yes, CSS can be wondrous at times. A block-element occupy space to the outside of its margins. Floats are no exception, but negative

Re: [WSG] Accessible Open Source CMS

2007-09-12 Thread Tee G. Peng
On Sep 12, 2007, at 5:43 PM, Vlad Alexander (XStandard) wrote: Tee wrote: Personally I don't think there is a fully accessible WYSIWYG Editor existed that delivers pure clean code. It all depends on how you define fully. XStandard has a keyboard accessible interface and most definitely

RE: [WSG] Accessible Open Source CMS

2007-09-12 Thread John Horner
I don't mean to be difficult, but I'm always baffled by this question. A CMS, presumably, outputs the code you tell it to output. Whether it serves up accessible/valid is completely up to you. To put it another way, a CMS which won't allow you to output standards-based code is by definition not

Re: [WSG] Accessible Open Source CMS

2007-09-12 Thread Marghanita da Cruz
John Horner wrote: I don't mean to be difficult, but I'm always baffled by this question. A CMS, presumably, outputs the code you tell it to output. Whether it serves up accessible/valid is completely up to you. To put it another way, a CMS which won't allow you to output standards-based code

Re: [WSG] Accessible Open Source CMS

2007-09-12 Thread Raena Jackson Armitage
On 9/13/07, Marghanita da Cruz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From another perspective, could someone relying on assistive technology contribute webpages? This is what i always wonder with these questions, too. I can think of a lot of examples where the administration/editing interface is