[WSG] Request possible?

2007-11-06 Thread Michael Vogt
Hello all.

I received an request from a client, which I am not sure how to
implement correctly. Would you please be so kind to have a quick look
at it, and let me know what you think?

A first implementation can be found here:
html: http://michaelvogt.eu/flow.html
css: http://michaelvogt.eu/flow.css

At the bottom, of the page, you see the photoshop mock up.

I have 2 questions:
- is there a better way to do the html structure for this?
- is there a way  that only 2 lines of text are allowed above the
small box? The other text should flow automatically around the box.


Thanks a lot,
Michael Vogt


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Re: [WSG] Request possible?

2007-11-06 Thread Dave Woods
Hi Michael,

The overall structure is probably how I'd tackle this but I do have a
couple of suggestions.

1 - You don't really need the div for part4 as this seems to just be
applying a margin which could be applied directly to #article.

2 - Within the part4infosmall div I wouldn't use a definition list
for this as it simply looks like another sub heading and then a
paragraph.

I presume this is part of a page and is just to demonstrate the layout
but there are other issues like no doctype or character set and the
your using a heading 3 without 1 or 2 present but I presume this would
be corrected in the final page? Obviously this would also include the
inline style that you have for the margin on the body.

Also you're declaring font-size in pixels but you need to use either
em or a percentage value if you want the page to be accessible.

You might find this useful to convert your sizes
http://www.dave-woods.co.uk/?p=79

Other than that though, it's a relatively simple layout so should only
really need a few div containers and then the relevant heading's
applied along with paragraphs of text.

Hope that helps.

Cheers
Dave

- - - - - - - - - -
http://www.dave-woods.co.uk


On 06/11/2007, Michael Vogt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello all.

 I received an request from a client, which I am not sure how to
 implement correctly. Would you please be so kind to have a quick look
 at it, and let me know what you think?

 A first implementation can be found here:
 html: http://michaelvogt.eu/flow.html
 css: http://michaelvogt.eu/flow.css

 At the bottom, of the page, you see the photoshop mock up.

 I have 2 questions:
 - is there a better way to do the html structure for this?
 - is there a way  that only 2 lines of text are allowed above the
 small box? The other text should flow automatically around the box.


 Thanks a lot,
 Michael Vogt


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[WSG] Call for Papers - Techshare India 2008 - Breaking the Barriers

2007-11-06 Thread Vasu
Hello All:

Techshare India 2008 - Breaking the Barriers is the first ever accessibility
conference-cum-exhibition bringing the entire ecosystem; the government, the
corporates, the NGOs, the disabled, the product companies, and the education
providers under one roof. Techshare India 2008 will be held on 4th and 5th
February, 2008 at New Delhi, India.

Highlights of Techshare India 2008

We envisage Techshare India 2008 as a milestone that would bring a
revolution in the society for including people with disabilities in the main
stream.

. First 2-day Accessibility Conference-cum-Exhibition in India 
. Organizing committee featuring international bodies such as Royal National
Institute for the Blind (RNIB), UK
. 500 plus delegates from government, non-profit, education institutes, and
corporate from across the globe
. 50 plus speakers, 4 Tracks, 6 accessibility workshops
. State-of-the-art experience lab showcasing assistive technology
. Exhibition with 25 plus stalls displaying assistive aids pan disability

Call of Papers

We invite you to submit abstracts to present at the Techshare India 2008
conference before the 30th November, 2007. All abstracts will be reviewed by
the Organizing Committee.

For submission procedures and suggested topics please visit our call for
paper page at http://www.barrierbreak.com/callforpapers.php 

Please visit our website at http://www.barrierbreak.com/techshareindia.php
for updates, announcements, and more information on Techshare India 2008.


Thanks  Regards,
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Re: [WSG] Request possible?

2007-11-06 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun

Michael Vogt wrote:


html: http://michaelvogt.eu/flow.html



I have 2 questions:



- is there a better way to do the html structure for this?


You'll have to make some structural/sequential changes to get the visual
effect you're after, since CSS alone can't handle such effects with any
accuracy yet. Thus, the visual won't reflect the source-order.

- is there a way  that only 2 lines of text are allowed above the 
small box? The other text should flow automatically around the box.


With a spacer-float, yes. See example...

http://www.gunlaug.no/tos/alien/mv/test_07_1106.html

IE/win (all versions) need help though, as it mixes up the calculations.
Most of IE's problems can be avoided by reorganizing where the
margins/paddings go in the layout as a whole.

Also, the line-up won't be reliable using fixed dimensions, pixels,
since there isn't such a thing as fixed font-sizes/line-heights in web
design. Thus, you'll have to modify dimensions to work with relative
font-sizes/line-heights if you want to avoid all sorts of breaking and
overlapping when such a request gets subjected to the slightest amount
of stress across browser-land.

Otherwise: no problem.

regards
Georg
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http://www.gunlaug.no


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Re: [WSG] Request possible?

2007-11-06 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh


On Nov 6, 2007, at 7:48 PM, Gunlaug Sørtun wrote:


http://www.gunlaug.no/tos/alien/mv/test_07_1106.html

...

Otherwise: no problem.


No problems ? With Fx Mac and Safari 2.04, 3.03beta and the latest  
WebKit builds, the is a slight overlap: the top part of the floated  
block is partly covered by the text outside of it. In Gecko the  
floated block is under that text, in WebKit, the floated block is on  
top.

Depending on your font-size, this is more or less pronounced.

(It is a known issue/bug with that kind of trick, btw; the floated  
block is placed slightly too high in the flow).


Philippe
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Philippe Wittenbergh
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Re: [WSG] Request possible?

2007-11-06 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun

Philippe Wittenbergh wrote:


On Nov 6, 2007, at 7:48 PM, Gunlaug Sørtun wrote:


http://www.gunlaug.no/tos/alien/mv/test_07_1106.html

...

Otherwise: no problem.


No problems ? With Fx Mac and Safari 2.04, 3.03beta and the latest 
WebKit builds, the is a slight overlap: the top part of the floated 
block is partly covered by the text outside of it. In Gecko the 
floated block is under that text, in WebKit, the floated block is on 
top. Depending on your font-size, this is more or less pronounced.


Yes, but there's no point in creating a flawless demo if pixel-defined
font-sizes and line-heights are used. It'll break everywhere anyway.
To create something useful out of it, one must get all the ordinary
layout-details right.

Those who want to know more, can dissect Ingo's old demo...
http://www.satzansatz.de/cssd/tmp/floatspacer.html
...but it's still incomplete, so /some/ browsers still need more help if
they should get that one right under stress.

regards
Georg
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http://www.gunlaug.no


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[WSG] Testing emails for Outlook 2007

2007-11-06 Thread Paul Collins
Hi all,

Just wondering if anyone has found a clever way of testing your HTML
emails for Outlook 2007? I don't have Vista and can't see myself
buying it just yet! I thought there may be some kind of online
rendering engine setup by now, but couldn't find anything in a search.

Cheers
Paul


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Re: [WSG] Testing emails for Outlook 2007

2007-11-06 Thread Max A. Shpack
Hey Paul, if you have a friend with it -- set up remote desktop
connection and you'll be able to use outlook. I have outlook2007 on
XP, you can send email to me and i will send back a printscreen.

Cheers,
Max.

2007/11/6, Paul Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Hi all,

 Just wondering if anyone has found a clever way of testing your HTML
 emails for Outlook 2007? I don't have Vista and can't see myself
 buying it just yet! I thought there may be some kind of online
 rendering engine setup by now, but couldn't find anything in a search.

 Cheers
 Paul


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RE: [WSG] Testing emails for Outlook 2007

2007-11-06 Thread Shaun
It you have the bucks

http://litmusapp.com/

Regards

Shaun


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Hi all,

Just wondering if anyone has found a clever way of testing your HTML
emails for Outlook 2007? I don't have Vista and can't see myself
buying it just yet! I thought there may be some kind of online
rendering engine setup by now, but couldn't find anything in a search.

Cheers
Paul


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RE: [WSG] Testing emails for Outlook 2007

2007-11-06 Thread lisa . kerrigan
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Re: [WSG] Testing emails for Outlook 2007

2007-11-06 Thread Joshua Street
On 11/7/07, Paul Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Just wondering if anyone has found a clever way of testing your HTML
 emails for Outlook 2007? I don't have Vista and can't see myself
 buying it just yet!

Office 2007 runs fine on XP, with the new stupid Word rendering engine
and all. And assuming you don't buy an OEM copy the license will be
valid on Vista if you ever do upgrade (and if you DO buy an OEM copy
and upgrade to Vista on the same hardware, it's still valid).

If you're regularly testing for Outlook '07, probably a worthwhile
investment over remote-hosted services. That said I've got no hard
numbers on usage stats for it... we're testing for it, but it's
possibly not significant just yet.

http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa338201.aspx is a useful resource.

Hope this helps

Josh


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[WSG] Call for site check

2007-11-06 Thread Taco Fleur
Hello all,
 
We have a huge website using CSS that is going out the door next month, and
it is ready for testing after the 15th. This application is to go against
some of the big search engine giants out there ran by large communication
corporations (you know the ones I mean).

Anyone interested can register for testing on http://www.clickfind.com.au/
 
Last time I made cash available for testers, however, for most people it was
more the fun of being able to find holes/bugs that we did not! This time
we'll offer a 6 month listing worth $119.70 for every bug/layout* concern
found.

Anyone interested can find a PDF with demo pages on
http://www.clickfind.com.au/Clickfind-demo1.pdf and register for testing by
submitting your email on http://www.clickfind.com.au/ or sending me an email
on [EMAIL PROTECTED]  

We will provide more details closer to the testing.
 
Thanks and looking forward hearing from you.

*layout/css issues are to be accompanied with a full fix, any other issues,
like application errors etc. can be reported on their own



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[WSG] Silverlight Followup - Silverlight 1.1 Alpha

2007-11-06 Thread Frank Palinkas
For those who may be interested and haven't seen this yet, here's the address
to a CodeProject article on Silverlight 1.1 Alpha:

http://www.codeproject.com/useritems/SLFun.asp

The 1.1 Alpha now incorporates the use of C# managed code and ASP.Net. 

Kind regards,

Frank M. Palinkas
Microsoft M.V.P. - Windows Help
W3C HTML Working Group (H.T.M.L.W.G.) - Invited Expert
M.C.P., M.C.T., M.C.S.E., M.C.D.B.A., A+   
Senior Technical Communicator 
Web Standards  Accessibility Designer 



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RE: [WSG] Testing emails for Outlook 2007

2007-11-06 Thread Stijn Audooren


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