[WSG] Request possible?
Hello all. I received an request from a client, which I am not sure how to implement correctly. Would you please be so kind to have a quick look at it, and let me know what you think? A first implementation can be found here: html: http://michaelvogt.eu/flow.html css: http://michaelvogt.eu/flow.css At the bottom, of the page, you see the photoshop mock up. I have 2 questions: - is there a better way to do the html structure for this? - is there a way that only 2 lines of text are allowed above the small box? The other text should flow automatically around the box. Thanks a lot, Michael Vogt *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Request possible?
Hi Michael, The overall structure is probably how I'd tackle this but I do have a couple of suggestions. 1 - You don't really need the div for part4 as this seems to just be applying a margin which could be applied directly to #article. 2 - Within the part4infosmall div I wouldn't use a definition list for this as it simply looks like another sub heading and then a paragraph. I presume this is part of a page and is just to demonstrate the layout but there are other issues like no doctype or character set and the your using a heading 3 without 1 or 2 present but I presume this would be corrected in the final page? Obviously this would also include the inline style that you have for the margin on the body. Also you're declaring font-size in pixels but you need to use either em or a percentage value if you want the page to be accessible. You might find this useful to convert your sizes http://www.dave-woods.co.uk/?p=79 Other than that though, it's a relatively simple layout so should only really need a few div containers and then the relevant heading's applied along with paragraphs of text. Hope that helps. Cheers Dave - - - - - - - - - - http://www.dave-woods.co.uk On 06/11/2007, Michael Vogt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all. I received an request from a client, which I am not sure how to implement correctly. Would you please be so kind to have a quick look at it, and let me know what you think? A first implementation can be found here: html: http://michaelvogt.eu/flow.html css: http://michaelvogt.eu/flow.css At the bottom, of the page, you see the photoshop mock up. I have 2 questions: - is there a better way to do the html structure for this? - is there a way that only 2 lines of text are allowed above the small box? The other text should flow automatically around the box. Thanks a lot, Michael Vogt *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] Call for Papers - Techshare India 2008 - Breaking the Barriers
Hello All: Techshare India 2008 - Breaking the Barriers is the first ever accessibility conference-cum-exhibition bringing the entire ecosystem; the government, the corporates, the NGOs, the disabled, the product companies, and the education providers under one roof. Techshare India 2008 will be held on 4th and 5th February, 2008 at New Delhi, India. Highlights of Techshare India 2008 We envisage Techshare India 2008 as a milestone that would bring a revolution in the society for including people with disabilities in the main stream. . First 2-day Accessibility Conference-cum-Exhibition in India . Organizing committee featuring international bodies such as Royal National Institute for the Blind (RNIB), UK . 500 plus delegates from government, non-profit, education institutes, and corporate from across the globe . 50 plus speakers, 4 Tracks, 6 accessibility workshops . State-of-the-art experience lab showcasing assistive technology . Exhibition with 25 plus stalls displaying assistive aids pan disability Call of Papers We invite you to submit abstracts to present at the Techshare India 2008 conference before the 30th November, 2007. All abstracts will be reviewed by the Organizing Committee. For submission procedures and suggested topics please visit our call for paper page at http://www.barrierbreak.com/callforpapers.php Please visit our website at http://www.barrierbreak.com/techshareindia.php for updates, announcements, and more information on Techshare India 2008. Thanks Regards, Vasu | Account Manager BarrierBreak Technologies India: +91 (22) 2686 0485 / 86 Cell: +91 99202 29081 USA: +1 (781) 452 0677 Web: http://www.barrierbreak.com BarrierBreak Technologies a subsidiary of Net Systems Informatics *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Request possible?
Michael Vogt wrote: html: http://michaelvogt.eu/flow.html I have 2 questions: - is there a better way to do the html structure for this? You'll have to make some structural/sequential changes to get the visual effect you're after, since CSS alone can't handle such effects with any accuracy yet. Thus, the visual won't reflect the source-order. - is there a way that only 2 lines of text are allowed above the small box? The other text should flow automatically around the box. With a spacer-float, yes. See example... http://www.gunlaug.no/tos/alien/mv/test_07_1106.html IE/win (all versions) need help though, as it mixes up the calculations. Most of IE's problems can be avoided by reorganizing where the margins/paddings go in the layout as a whole. Also, the line-up won't be reliable using fixed dimensions, pixels, since there isn't such a thing as fixed font-sizes/line-heights in web design. Thus, you'll have to modify dimensions to work with relative font-sizes/line-heights if you want to avoid all sorts of breaking and overlapping when such a request gets subjected to the slightest amount of stress across browser-land. Otherwise: no problem. regards Georg -- http://www.gunlaug.no *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Request possible?
On Nov 6, 2007, at 7:48 PM, Gunlaug Sørtun wrote: http://www.gunlaug.no/tos/alien/mv/test_07_1106.html ... Otherwise: no problem. No problems ? With Fx Mac and Safari 2.04, 3.03beta and the latest WebKit builds, the is a slight overlap: the top part of the floated block is partly covered by the text outside of it. In Gecko the floated block is under that text, in WebKit, the floated block is on top. Depending on your font-size, this is more or less pronounced. (It is a known issue/bug with that kind of trick, btw; the floated block is placed slightly too high in the flow). Philippe --- Philippe Wittenbergh http://emps.l-c-n.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Request possible?
Philippe Wittenbergh wrote: On Nov 6, 2007, at 7:48 PM, Gunlaug Sørtun wrote: http://www.gunlaug.no/tos/alien/mv/test_07_1106.html ... Otherwise: no problem. No problems ? With Fx Mac and Safari 2.04, 3.03beta and the latest WebKit builds, the is a slight overlap: the top part of the floated block is partly covered by the text outside of it. In Gecko the floated block is under that text, in WebKit, the floated block is on top. Depending on your font-size, this is more or less pronounced. Yes, but there's no point in creating a flawless demo if pixel-defined font-sizes and line-heights are used. It'll break everywhere anyway. To create something useful out of it, one must get all the ordinary layout-details right. Those who want to know more, can dissect Ingo's old demo... http://www.satzansatz.de/cssd/tmp/floatspacer.html ...but it's still incomplete, so /some/ browsers still need more help if they should get that one right under stress. regards Georg -- http://www.gunlaug.no *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] Testing emails for Outlook 2007
Hi all, Just wondering if anyone has found a clever way of testing your HTML emails for Outlook 2007? I don't have Vista and can't see myself buying it just yet! I thought there may be some kind of online rendering engine setup by now, but couldn't find anything in a search. Cheers Paul *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Testing emails for Outlook 2007
Hey Paul, if you have a friend with it -- set up remote desktop connection and you'll be able to use outlook. I have outlook2007 on XP, you can send email to me and i will send back a printscreen. Cheers, Max. 2007/11/6, Paul Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi all, Just wondering if anyone has found a clever way of testing your HTML emails for Outlook 2007? I don't have Vista and can't see myself buying it just yet! I thought there may be some kind of online rendering engine setup by now, but couldn't find anything in a search. Cheers Paul *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] Testing emails for Outlook 2007
It you have the bucks http://litmusapp.com/ Regards Shaun -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Paul Collins Sent: 06 November 2007 17:19 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] Testing emails for Outlook 2007 Hi all, Just wondering if anyone has found a clever way of testing your HTML emails for Outlook 2007? I don't have Vista and can't see myself buying it just yet! I thought there may be some kind of online rendering engine setup by now, but couldn't find anything in a search. Cheers Paul *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] Testing emails for Outlook 2007
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Re: [WSG] Testing emails for Outlook 2007
On 11/7/07, Paul Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just wondering if anyone has found a clever way of testing your HTML emails for Outlook 2007? I don't have Vista and can't see myself buying it just yet! Office 2007 runs fine on XP, with the new stupid Word rendering engine and all. And assuming you don't buy an OEM copy the license will be valid on Vista if you ever do upgrade (and if you DO buy an OEM copy and upgrade to Vista on the same hardware, it's still valid). If you're regularly testing for Outlook '07, probably a worthwhile investment over remote-hosted services. That said I've got no hard numbers on usage stats for it... we're testing for it, but it's possibly not significant just yet. http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa338201.aspx is a useful resource. Hope this helps Josh *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] Call for site check
Hello all, We have a huge website using CSS that is going out the door next month, and it is ready for testing after the 15th. This application is to go against some of the big search engine giants out there ran by large communication corporations (you know the ones I mean). Anyone interested can register for testing on http://www.clickfind.com.au/ Last time I made cash available for testers, however, for most people it was more the fun of being able to find holes/bugs that we did not! This time we'll offer a 6 month listing worth $119.70 for every bug/layout* concern found. Anyone interested can find a PDF with demo pages on http://www.clickfind.com.au/Clickfind-demo1.pdf and register for testing by submitting your email on http://www.clickfind.com.au/ or sending me an email on [EMAIL PROTECTED] We will provide more details closer to the testing. Thanks and looking forward hearing from you. *layout/css issues are to be accompanied with a full fix, any other issues, like application errors etc. can be reported on their own *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] Silverlight Followup - Silverlight 1.1 Alpha
For those who may be interested and haven't seen this yet, here's the address to a CodeProject article on Silverlight 1.1 Alpha: http://www.codeproject.com/useritems/SLFun.asp The 1.1 Alpha now incorporates the use of C# managed code and ASP.Net. Kind regards, Frank M. Palinkas Microsoft M.V.P. - Windows Help W3C HTML Working Group (H.T.M.L.W.G.) - Invited Expert M.C.P., M.C.T., M.C.S.E., M.C.D.B.A., A+ Senior Technical Communicator Web Standards Accessibility Designer *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] Testing emails for Outlook 2007
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