RE: [WSG] Less than and greater than in UTF-8 encoded HTML

2007-11-27 Thread Richard Ishida
and and should always be written as entities because they will interfere with the syntax otherwise. (And sometimes ). On the other hand, utf-8 should allow you to use actual characters for every other character you are likely to want to include in your content, and doing so is recommended.

Re: [WSG] Idiot's guide to JavaScript

2007-11-27 Thread Rick Lecoat
On 15/11/07 (11:15) Ross said: As a general rule of thumb if you are looking for online tutorials and examples that are teaching good modern JavaScript go find another one if it tells you to use things like: document.write inline event handlers (like onclick) browser sniffing This

Re: [WSG] Idiot's guide to JavaScript

2007-11-27 Thread Martin Heiden
Rick, on Tuesday, November 27, 2007 at 13:50 Web Standards Group wrote: On 15/11/07 (11:15) Ross said: document.write inline event handlers (like onclick) browser sniffing In summary, then, does anyone recommend me hanging onto Visual Quickstart Guide: JavaScript and Ajax (6th

[WSG] Out of Office AutoReply: WSG Digest

2007-11-27 Thread Rachel Donohue
I am currently in a workshop returning December 3rd. Please direct all urgent queries to [EMAIL PROTECTED] IMPORTANT - Please consider our environment before printing this email. This email and any attachments are confidential and may be legally privileged in which case neither is intended to

Re: [WSG] Idiot's guide to JavaScript

2007-11-27 Thread Rick Lecoat
On 27/11/07 (13:17) James said: Hi Rick, I can't comment on the Visual Quickstart book as I haven't read it, but having only just started really looking at Javascript myself, I can vouch for Jeremy Keith's book being very good indeed. I have found it very easy to read (each chapter takes about

RE: [WSG] Idiot's guide to JavaScript

2007-11-27 Thread Peter Goddard
I would endorse any recommendations for Jeremy Keith's book. Superb stuff! I would say it's a great place to start. You need to understand all the issues he raises such as degradation (in the event of the client having JS switched off in the browser etc. JK just has such a good way of

Re: [WSG] Idiot's guide to JavaScript

2007-11-27 Thread Michael Horowitz
How do you feel it compared with Heilmann's book Javascript development with dom scripting and ajax Michael Horowitz Your Computer Consultant http://yourcomputerconsultant.com 561-394-9079 Peter Goddard wrote: I would endorse any recommendations for Jeremy Keith's book. Superb stuff! I

Re: [WSG] Validation questions

2007-11-27 Thread David Hucklesby
On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 13:34:05 +1000, Taco Fleur wrote: I have an error where it says document type does not allow element OL here The ol tag is within a formfieldset I don't understand, is this not allowed? Pass. I have an error where it says end tag for element P which is not open. The p

Re: [WSG] Validation questions

2007-11-27 Thread David Hucklesby
On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 13:34:05 +1000, Taco Fleur wrote: I have an error where it says document type does not allow element OL here The ol tag is within a formfieldset I don't understand, is this not allowed? Pass. I have an error where it says end tag for element P which is not open. The p

[WSG] Web Standards Presentation

2007-11-27 Thread Christian Snodgrass
Hello, I am going to be giving a presentation on Web Standards to all relevant professors at my university to help them catch up and get up-to-date in what they are teaching the students. I am putting together various resources for them, including a website (which can be found at

Re: [WSG] Web Standards Presentation

2007-11-27 Thread Susan Grossman
Since this is the Web Standards group, I'd like to ask if some members would be willing to look over the information I have gathered and I am developing and would comment, critique, correct, etc. on everything I have presented. Nice Start - though if I was talking Standards I'd also talk

Re: [WSG] Web Standards Presentation

2007-11-27 Thread David Storey
Opera may be working on educational material of our own, through our Developer relations and Dev.opera.com work. I'll take a look, but as a quick first suggestion, it may not be the best idea to use a flash menu in a standards site. I'm not sure if you've put much accessibility work into

Re: [WSG] Web Standards Presentation

2007-11-27 Thread Christian Snodgrass
Lol, yes, I know. I forgot to mention that, thanks to there not being enough time on this planet, this website is doubling as a final project in two of my classes. That menu, as well as the links for games and animations are part of that. Once that is over with, they'll likely be removed. At

Re: [WSG] Web Standards Presentation

2007-11-27 Thread Christian Snodgrass
I will also be talking Semantics. If you took a look at my outline, the HTML, Div vs. Tables, Deprecated Elements and Attributes, and WYSIWYG editor sections will be largely semantic discussion. Susan Grossman wrote: Since this is the Web Standards group, I'd like to ask if some members would

Re: [WSG] Idiot's guide to JavaScript

2007-11-27 Thread Breton Slivka
On Nov 28, 2007 12:14 AM, Martin Heiden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rick, on Tuesday, November 27, 2007 at 13:50 Web Standards Group wrote: On 15/11/07 (11:15) Ross said: document.write inline event handlers (like onclick) browser sniffing In summary, then, does anyone

[WSG] Changes to websites [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

2007-11-27 Thread Deborah . Hicks
Hi, I am looking for feedback on how other departments are handling the change of government, in regards to departmental websites? Thanks Deborah Deborah Hicks Online Communications Department of Health and Ageing 6289 7991

Re: [WSG] Changes to websites

2007-11-27 Thread Adeline Yaw
Hi Deborah, I can't see how the changes will make an impact as yet but this resource is useful (if you aren't aware of it already). http://webpublishing.agimo.gov.au/ Adeline's Email Signature Best regards, Adeline Yaw Centre for Physical Activity Health Level 2, Medical Foundation

Re: [WSG] Idiot's guide to JavaScript

2007-11-27 Thread Al Sparber
From: Breton Slivka [EMAIL PROTECTED] Of course if you don't feel like reading it, then don't. You have the reccomendations here for the books that have good information (Unless nobody has yet reccomended David Flanagan's Javascript: The Definative Guide). When you're ready for good information,

Re: [WSG] Idiot's guide to JavaScript

2007-11-27 Thread Nick Lo
From: Breton Slivka [EMAIL PROTECTED] Of course if you don't feel like reading it, then don't. You have the reccomendations here for the books that have good information (Unless nobody has yet reccomended David Flanagan's Javascript: The Definative Guide). When you're ready for good information,

RE: [WSG] Changes to websites

2007-11-27 Thread Andrew Boyd
Hi Adeline (and Deborah), I can see the following likely impacts: * The mechanics of changing portfolios will mean that there is content to be merged/split/repurposed, sites to be re-architected, and a lot of graphic design work. This applies to both intranet and internet. * Regardless

Re: [WSG] Idiot's guide to JavaScript

2007-11-27 Thread Penny Haslop
Word to Dave. This book is awesome. I've slowly been trying to increase my knowledge of programming, rather than scripting, and I don't think you could do better than Simply Javascript. All the best! -- Penny Haslop pennyhaslop.com On Nov 14, 2007 8:31 AM, Dave Woods [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [WSG] java script with firefox

2007-11-27 Thread Mordechai Peller
marvin hunkin wrote: but she noticed, that the links, would not work or show up in firefox. and using text links with a mouseover rollover. got any tips, or tricks, and how to fix this one? Marvin, You're not giving much to work with. Could you post either a link to the offending page or some