Could be technical if you want to allow your pages to be parsed with XML
parsers. I've done that in the past because I made some software to fetch data
from my site.
-Thom
From: Andrew Maben
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I am currently out of the office, returning Tuesday 6 May 2008.
I will respond to your email on my return.
Many thanks
Nikki Pickering
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There are two people I know of in my company (over 100,000 people) who can
see the color red fine in the real world, but cannot read red text ,
typically error messages, on a computer screen. They did not know they had a
problem until they called a help desk to find out why they were having a
Every month I get a statement in Red print and every month I think I am in debt
or they are writing to warn me about something that is overdue. Except this
month. I have changed bank.
I was sat here on a bank holiday bored out my scull till I read that..ahahahaha
Good on ya about changing ya
Linda,
You mentioned that you need research to back up some decisions. How
about taking the mock-ups that you have done already and just go to a
coffee shop. Just ask some one to take a look at the site and give them
5-10 seconds. See what there first thoughts are for the site and what
did they
On May 5, 2008, at 8:58 AM, McLaughlin, Gail wrote:
There are two people I know of in my company (over 100,000 people)
who can see the color red fine in the real world, but cannot read
red text , typically error messages, on a computer screen. They did
not know they had a problem until
There are two people I know of in my company (over 100,000 people) who can
see the color red fine in the real world, but cannot read red text ,
typically error messages, on a computer screen. They did not know they had a
problem until they called a help desk to find out why they were having a
Hi, I need to mark up a list of client testimonials. At first I was
going to do it with a UL but then I thought about the multi-part
nature of each 'item' (Client's quote, client's name, client's
company) and figured that a definition list might be a better option.
My only reservation
Definition Lists are wonderful markup tools. They do create a nice
relationship between element pairs and I find myself sometimes using
them for lists of real estate properties for sale:
Something like:
dl
dtproperty photo //dt
dtaddress, city st zip/dt
ddprice/dd
ddbeds /
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Behalf Of Rick Lecoat
Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 8:26 AM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: [WSG] Definition lists for testimonials
Hi, I need to mark up a list of client testimonials. At first I was
The company I worl with has a big love for full flash websites and we have
produced some very nice but heavy and slow ones.
What do you people, professionals and hobby standardists think about full
flash websites?? where is the usability and accessibility for flash in
general??
I am personally
Hi,
A forum I used to go to uesd to say some HTML and Flash.
Maybe this site helps a little bit:
http://www.useit.com/alertbox/20001029.html
Or:
http://www.456bereastreet.com/archive/200610/full_flash_websites_and_seo/
Kate
http://jungaling.com/bichons/
http://jungaling.com/Malaysia/
I've used flash sites that have been poorly done - confusing interfaces
etc. Awful Experience.
I've used flash sites that have been built well. Excellent experience.
Accessible? Not really, but...
If you're providing a fall-back HTML version you're covered.
Joseph R. B. Taylor
/Designer /
Michael Persson wrote:
What do you people, professionals and hobby standardists think about full
flash websites?? where is the usability and accessibility for flash in
general??
Hate 'em.
I usually look in the footer for 'html/lite version' link.
If there isn't one, i'll probably end up
What do you people, professionals and hobby standardists think about full
flash websites?? where is the usability and accessibility for flash in
general??
Im a big fan of xhtml/flash hybrid sites myself. Usually I'll consider
using flash for anything but links(usability reasons) and the
The look good but aren't standards.
You pretty much hit the head on the problem. The same usability problems
also give them a problem with being found by search engines.
Michael Horowitz
Your Computer Consultant
http://yourcomputerconsultant.com
561-394-9079
Michael Persson wrote:
The
I've not done any full Flash websites. For reasons of accessibility and the
loss of browser navigational tools. But I have been playing with an idea;
use XHTML as data source for the site instead of plain XML. That way you
build a site with all the accessibility and features of HTML with Flash
I say avoid flash whenever possible. Sometimes, however, it isn't. I
am just waiting for SVG to get more widely in use. That is going to
be... awesome!
Flash is good for use on sites on YouTube. Other things? Nah. HTML
and JavaScript can easily replace flash in many many cases.
Regards,
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Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 1:16 PM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Cc: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: [WSG] Full flash websites
The company I worl with has a big love for full
If it's a mac issue, the most usual cause is that full keyboard access isn't
enabled. Solve this by going to System Preferences - Keyboard Mouse -
Keyboard Shortcuts - select the All Controls radio button in the full
keyboard access section at the bottom of the pane (not in the scrollable
area).
What do you people, professionals and hobby standardists think about full
flash websites?? where is the usability and accessibility for flash in
general??
Accessibility and search engine visibility of Flash in most cases is zero.
I've only heard of one Flash site that was considered accessible
I disable flash on all of my browsers because its most commonly used for
really really annoying advertisements. On the rare occasion that I want
to go to some site that needs flash to work, i reluctantly turn it on.
But I've not found one site of that type that I go back to - they
contain too
As many have already commented I apply caution when using flash (because of
it creates extra work, because users like Sven disable it by default and
much more besides)
The thing is some clients care initially more for the visual appeal (things
bouncing around etc) of websites and not for features
well, i miss fired again. sent something to the list that was meant to go
somewhere else. my sincerest apologies.
cheers,
dwain
--
dwain alford
The artist may use any form which his expression demands;
for his inner impulse must find suitable expression. Kandinsky
Ben,
Thanks for the tips. I thought I had the full universal access turned
on, but was missing the full keyboard access. Geee, so much for Apple
universal access - just like the one button mouse ! totally useless.
tee
On May 5, 2008, at 4:13 PM, Ben Dodson wrote:
If it's a mac issue, the
Ok, I think I need to modify my comment a bit. It looks like Firefox
has a dependency on Mac's keyboard access - it didn't occur to me to
check out the System Preferences that something needed to enable
because Safari has no problem.
tee
On May 5, 2008, at 7:32 PM, tee wrote:
Ben,
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