[WSG] NoScript Help Please!

2008-05-21 Thread IceKat
Hi, I'm totally hoping that someone can help me with this. I'm trying to use noscript tags but I CANNOT get my page to validate. Below is the section which is giving me trouble. Please can someone tell me what the trouble is. td class=delete_filenoscripta href=a_link.htm/noscript img

Re: [WSG] global site list...

2008-05-21 Thread bill kroon
could it be split into choosing a continent then a country? might help to make a it bit less busy? *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm

[WSG] a question concering shopping cart function (somewhat usability issue I think)

2008-05-21 Thread tee
When a customer add a product to cart, which way is more user- friendly? Be redirect to 'my cart' page, or stay at the same page? Right now Magento directs it to checkout page (p/s. this is the only eCommerce software I ever use apart from the paypal BIN button so I have no comparison and

Re: [WSG] NoScript Help Please!

2008-05-21 Thread Michael Cordover
Hey, My suggestion would be td class=..a href=...img src=.. alt=.. //a/td And attaching the onclick event to a with return false; to stop it executing when there is javascript. The alternative is to have an onload function that puts the image outside the a and deletes the a element. Both of

RE: [WSG] Fwd: using fieldsets and legends (outside a form) for adding structural markup

2008-05-21 Thread Ted Drake
Hi Julien A little history may help. In the early days of standards-based markup, people were looking for more structural ways to markup content. It was a bit of a wild west and you saw various attempts to replace a table with x, y, or z. Unfortunately, the standards-based developers did not

Re: [WSG] a question concering shopping cart function (somewhat usability issue I think)

2008-05-21 Thread walied yossry
Hi tee, Always think as if you're there...and think about the possibilites. In such a situation, either the user(buyer) added something to the shopping cart, and still wants to add some other stuff, we will call this case A, or the user(buyer) just wanted this single item case B. I believe the

Re: [WSG] NoScript Help Please!

2008-05-21 Thread David Dorward
On 21 May 2008, at 07:11, IceKat wrote: I'm totally hoping that someone can help me with this. I'm trying to use noscript tags but I CANNOT get my page to validate. Below is the section which is giving me trouble. Please can someone tell me what the trouble is. td

Re: [WSG] PHP Standards

2008-05-21 Thread Keryx Web
Ian Chamberlain skrev: Fingers crossed this is not too far off topic; being a newby to PHP; any clues where I can find how-to's, snippets, libraries or even application suites built from PHP that are built to a good minimum standard please. I am guessing that PHP is much like JavaScript in

[WSG] Guestbook

2008-05-21 Thread Designer
Hi All, I've had a request to put a guestbook on a client's site. I've searched amomgst the maze of google refs, but there seems to be a lot of micky mouse things. I am after an accessible, (x)html valid (of course!) example. I feel sure that someone on the list will have done this, or at

Re: [WSG] Guestbook

2008-05-21 Thread Michael Persson
Dear Bob, I suggest you try to find a CMS guestbook that is also editable and accessible with a PHP interface to manager non wanted articles and writing. It is very useful for a client or yourself to manage it with a simple login... Michael Designer wrote: Hi All, I've had a request to

Re: [WSG] a question concering shopping cart function (somewhat usability issue I think)

2008-05-21 Thread Andrew Maben
On May 21, 2008, at 3:44 AM, walied yossry wrote: In such a situation, either the user(buyer) added something to the shopping cart, and still wants to add some other stuff, we will call this case A, or the user(buyer) just wanted this single item case B. I think in either case a user

Re: [WSG] a question concering shopping cart function (somewhat usability issue I think)

2008-05-21 Thread Adam Martin
I would also like to add that staying on the page when adding a product to the cart is quite likely going to use javascript (aka ajax) to add the product to the cart and inform the user that the item has been added. This obviously has both usability and accessibility issues. I think Magento's

RE: [WSG] Fwd: using fieldsets and legends (outside a form) for adding structural markup

2008-05-21 Thread Thierry Koblentz
So, there were a number of sites that began using fieldsets and legends outside of forms. You may still find documentation talking about how nice it is to work with. Unfortunately, fieldsets and legends are only for forms and you shouldn't use them otherwise. I've actually been dealing with

Re: [WSG] Fwd: using fieldsets and legends (outside a form) for adding structural markup

2008-05-21 Thread Jason Grant
Hi Julian, One more subtle point here (after taking this discussion into the office with guys that work with me) a point was made today that within DOM fieldset is part of the form hence you cannot reference a fieldset through DOM unless it is inside a form, so it is definitely a wrong approach

Re: [WSG] Fwd: using fieldsets and legends (outside a form) for adding structural markup

2008-05-21 Thread Hassan Schroeder
Jason Grant wrote: One more subtle point here (after taking this discussion into the office with guys that work with me) a point was made today that within DOM fieldset is part of the form hence you cannot reference a fieldset through DOM unless it is inside a form ... An easy theory to

Re: [WSG] a question concering shopping cart function (somewhat usability issue I think)

2008-05-21 Thread tee
On May 21, 2008, at 4:48 AM, Adam Martin wrote: I would also like to add that staying on the page when adding a product to the cart is quite likely going to use javascript (aka ajax) to add the product to the cart and inform the user that the item has been added. This obviously has both

Re: [WSG] a question concering shopping cart function (somewhat usability issue I think)

2008-05-21 Thread Adam Martin
I have no success in selling accessibility when I try to find clients, nobody buys it, so whatever extra care I make for accessibility is from me, free of charge Accessibility is really not that difficult to put in place - I also believe as professionals providing web design / development

Re: [WSG] NoScript Help Please!

2008-05-21 Thread IceKat
Hi, Thanks to those who have replied so far. I'm still a bit lost because this has gotten a bit more complicated so I'll explain a bit. I have a page which lists records in a mysql database. They each have varying options including delete. They are printed with a php loop. The table of

Re: [WSG] a question concering shopping cart function (somewhat usability issue I think)

2008-05-21 Thread Andrew Maben
On May 21, 2008, at 11:20 PM, Adam Martin wrote: I have no success in selling accessibility when I try to find clients, nobody buys it Sadly, that's probably true enough. But usability is much easier to sell - especially if framed in terms of you do want your customers to be able to find

Re: [WSG] a question concering shopping cart function (somewhat usability issue I think)

2008-05-21 Thread Bipul Keshri
Ooooh ! What does that button do ? If you call it CHECKOUT, the user knows what will happen. Yes, it will take her straight to the checkout page where she can complete the transaction. If you call it ADD TO SHOPPING CART, you are using a metaphor here. You are telling the user that there is a

Re: [WSG] a question concering shopping cart function (somewhat usability issue I think)

2008-05-21 Thread tee
On May 21, 2008, at 8:20 PM, Adam Martin wrote: I have no success in selling accessibility when I try to find clients, nobody buys it, so whatever extra care I make for accessibility is from me, free of charge Accessibility is really not that difficult to put in place - I also believe

Re: [WSG] a question concering shopping cart function (somewhat usability issue I think)

2008-05-21 Thread Adam Martin
Take a quick look here - you will see that javascript off is actually more common than people using safari or opera! I know this is only 1 site - but it does have some relevance. http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 1:54 PM, tee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [WSG] NoScript Help Please!

2008-05-21 Thread Jeffrey Lowder
Hi IceKat If javascript is required for the link - then write/append it to the page using javascript - then if javascript is being used - no link Cheers Jeff On 22/05/2008, at 1:31 PM, IceKat wrote: Hi, Thanks to those who have replied so far. I'm still a bit lost because this has

Re: [WSG] Fwd: using fieldsets and legends (outside a form) for adding structural markup

2008-05-21 Thread Julián Landerreche
Although since the beginning I wasn't convinced (that's why I started this thread) about using fieldset/legend for adding structural labels to non-form content (particularly, action links or site nav links), I'm still not convinced by exposed counter arguments against using it. I wasn't convinced