Re: [WSG] Marking Up Poems
Matijs wrote: I have to agree with Elizabeth here. Semantically I'd say that this is one of the few occasions where a br/ would be appropriate. The verses would be paragraphs of course. I did this a while back on a site for an author. I decided it was the best compromise between practicallity, readability and standards. I gave each verse a CSS class called 'stanza'. See: http://www.webscribe.fsnet.co.uk/chapters/c3summer.html Bob www.gwelanmor-internet.co.uk *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Firefox 3 candidate
Hi all, Thanks for your replies to this thread last week. I'm on a PC today and trying to get both versions of Firefox running, the only issue is, I can't find where to download version 2 of Firefox anymore! Mozilla have made it very hard to find previous versions Does anyone know where you can get version 2?! Cheers 2008/6/19 Paul Bennett [EMAIL PROTECTED]: select custom install and install it to another directory (something like /Mozilla/Firefox3) and the two will run side-by-side. You can do this with Opera too. :) Paul *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Firefox 3 candidate
Hi Paul, You can download Firefox Ver 2.0 from . http://www.oldapps.com/firefox.htm This is a very good website for downloading older appz. -- Cheers to life Sagnik :: 26four79.com On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 3:31 PM, Paul Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, Thanks for your replies to this thread last week. I'm on a PC today and trying to get both versions of Firefox running, the only issue is, I can't find where to download version 2 of Firefox anymore! Mozilla have made it very hard to find previous versions Does anyone know where you can get version 2?! Cheers 2008/6/19 Paul Bennett [EMAIL PROTECTED]: select custom install and install it to another directory (something like /Mozilla/Firefox3) and the two will run side-by-side. You can do this with Opera too. :) Paul *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Firefox 3 candidate
http://www.mozilla.com/firefox/all-older.html That's the official source. On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 8:01 PM, Paul Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, Thanks for your replies to this thread last week. I'm on a PC today and trying to get both versions of Firefox running, the only issue is, I can't find where to download version 2 of Firefox anymore! Mozilla have made it very hard to find previous versions Does anyone know where you can get version 2?! Cheers 2008/6/19 Paul Bennett [EMAIL PROTECTED]: select custom install and install it to another directory (something like /Mozilla/Firefox3) and the two will run side-by-side. You can do this with Opera too. :) Paul *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -- Josh Street http://josh.st/ +61 (0) 425 808 469 *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Firefox 3 candidate
Thanks Sagnik, that is a good site! 2008/6/23 Sagnik Dey [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi Paul, You can download Firefox Ver 2.0 from . http://www.oldapps.com/firefox.htm This is a very good website for downloading older appz. -- Cheers to life Sagnik :: 26four79.com On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 3:31 PM, Paul Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, Thanks for your replies to this thread last week. I'm on a PC today and trying to get both versions of Firefox running, the only issue is, I can't find where to download version 2 of Firefox anymore! Mozilla have made it very hard to find previous versions Does anyone know where you can get version 2?! Cheers 2008/6/19 Paul Bennett [EMAIL PROTECTED]: select custom install and install it to another directory (something like /Mozilla/Firefox3) and the two will run side-by-side. You can do this with Opera too. :) Paul *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] Firefox 3 candidate
You can still get some old versions from the Mozilla FTP site at http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/ It's ludicrous that they have removed some old versions - can they really not afford the disk space? Obviously users should not be installing old versions but developers and testers still need them for testing. We download and store all the English versions but it's not practical to save all the localised versions too. Steve _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sagnik Dey Sent: 23 June 2008 11:21 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Firefox 3 candidate Hi Paul, You can download Firefox Ver 2.0 from . http://www.oldapps.com/firefox.htm This is a very good website for downloading older appz. -- Cheers to life Sagnik :: 26four79.com On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 3:31 PM, Paul Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, Thanks for your replies to this thread last week. I'm on a PC today and trying to get both versions of Firefox running, the only issue is, I can't find where to download version 2 of Firefox anymore! Mozilla have made it very hard to find previous versions Does anyone know where you can get version 2?! Cheers 2008/6/19 Paul Bennett [EMAIL PROTECTED]: select custom install and install it to another directory (something like /Mozilla/Firefox3) and the two will run side-by-side. You can do this with Opera too. :) Paul *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Firefox 3 candidate
On 2008/06/23 11:42 (GMT+0100) Steve Green apparently typed: You can still get some old versions from the Mozilla FTP site at http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/ It's ludicrous that they have removed some old versions - can they really not afford the disk space? Obviously users should not be installing old versions but developers and testers still need them for testing. We download and store all the English versions but it's not practical to save all the localised versions too. They should still be there, but on http://archive.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/ . That is currently redirecting to http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/ which I think is broken behavior. ftp://archive.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases works. -- Where were you when I laid the earth's foundation? Matthew 7:12 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Marking Up Poems
On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 9:37 AM, Designer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matijs wrote: I have to agree with Elizabeth here. Semantically I'd say that this is one of the few occasions where a br/ would be appropriate. The verses would be paragraphs of course I did this a while back on a site for an author. I decided it was the best compromise between practicallity, readability and standards. I gave each verse a CSS class called 'stanza'. See: http://www.webscribe.fsnet.co.uk/chapters/c3summer.html Bob www.gwelanmor-internet.co.uk From all the replies I have read through and from all the articles I have read up on, this is probably the best solution I came across. I would wrap the whole poem within a div, then each of the verses in a paragraph and the lines created using br /. Anyone against this method? and why? *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Marking Up Poems
On 6/23/08, James Jeffery [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 9:37 AM, Designer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From all the replies I have read through and from all the articles I have read up on, this is probably the best solution I came across. I would wrap the whole poem within a div, then each of the verses in a paragraph and the lines created using br /. Anyone against this method? and why? i agree, put the poem in a div, place the poem inside a p, use br / (br for html4) at the end of each line and a double br / between stanzas (unless you are writing a very long poem, then i'd go for p at every stanza). cheers, dwain -- dwain alford The artist may use any form which his expression demands; for his inner impulse must find suitable expression. Kandinsky *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] Firefox 3 and script tag 'problems'
G'day all, Just a quick 'heads up' on Firefox 3 rendering compared with Firefox 2 rendering. If you 'self-close' a script element in the head, the validators will not pick it up as a problem - is is well formed xml (element is self-closed) and - it is validly placed (correctly placed within the 'head') Most browsers will render this OK, BUT Firefox 3 WILL NOT. It just renders the page with nothing on it. :-( All the pages that I detected this issue were xhtml 1.0 strict, without xml declarations, served up as 'text/html'. [ Do not have time to experiment at present - up to the eyebrows in marking. ] Just thought I would pass it on, as it is worth a quick search of your webpage coding to see if you have this issue. BTW, as a Uni lecturer in Internet Technologies / Web Development I have seen lots of html coding problems / validation problems when students do things like close 'img' or 'input' elements and validators do not pick it up - but have not detected any problems with the script element before. Browsers are usually to forgiving of sloppy code and will render just about anything, but this is an interesting change. regards Ken McInnes Adjuct Teaching Fellow Faculty of Information and Communication Technologies Swinburne University of Technology P O Box 218 Hawthorn, Victoria3122 Australia *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
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