[WSG] Canberra IA Cocktail Hour Tonight: Speaker running late so we're doing navigation
Folks, apologies for the late notice - our speaker has had his flight canceled in Sydney - we're proposing a roundtable on navigation instead - he may be able to join us still for dinner. Cheers, Andrew -- --- Andrew Boyd http://onblogging.com.au *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] Coding for CSS3?
Hi all, I'm having trouble deciding whether to begin coding using CSS3, such as using (but not limited to) opacity. Although the CSS validator returns an error, but it claims it'll be supported in CSS3. As far as i know, FF2, FF3, Opera and Safari already renders the opacity property, leaving Internet Explorer, which we could use alpha properties in separate stylesheets and conditional comments. Anyone know if IE8 supports it? I haven't had a good look at all CSS3 properties yet, but I'm wondering if this is a good time to code for the future? Or better to wait for official release of CSS3? If CSS3 is released tomorrow, what about older browsers like IE6? Cheers, Ben *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Coding for CSS3?
Ben Lau wrote: Hi all, I'm having trouble deciding whether to begin coding using CSS3, such as using (but not limited to) opacity. Although the CSS validator returns an error, but it claims it'll be supported in CSS3. As far as i know, FF2, FF3, Opera and Safari already renders the opacity property, leaving Internet Explorer, which we could use alpha properties in separate stylesheets and conditional comments. Anyone know if IE8 supports it? I haven't had a good look at all CSS3 properties yet, but I'm wondering if this is a good time to code for the future? Or better to wait for official release of CSS3? If CSS3 is released tomorrow, what about older browsers like IE6? Cheers, Ben *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** If you want to use them, you can, but use them cautiously and make sure that nothing will fall apart if those CSS3 properties aren't available. -- Christian Snodgrass Azure Ronin Web Design http://www.arwebdesign.net http://www.numberoverflow.com http://www.htmlblox.com Phone: 859.816.7955 *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Coding for CSS3?
Honestly css3 is not ready to be used , we wont truely be able to use this new coding language onlong with HTML 5.0 until the next releases of browsers some can now but it will take until then for the world to upgrade their browsers. On Fri, 3 Oct 2008 00:09:55 +1000, Ben Lau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I'm having trouble deciding whether to begin coding using CSS3, such as using (but not limited to) opacity. Although the CSS validator returns an error, but it claims it'll be supported in CSS3. As far as i know, FF2, FF3, Opera and Safari already renders the opacity property, leaving Internet Explorer, which we could use alpha properties in separate stylesheets and conditional comments. Anyone know if IE8 supports it? I haven't had a good look at all CSS3 properties yet, but I'm wondering if this is a good time to code for the future? Or better to wait for official release of CSS3? If CSS3 is released tomorrow, what about older browsers like IE6? Cheers, Ben *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Coding for CSS3?
There is a CSS3 profile for the CSS validator, so just switch to that. http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/#validate_by_uri +with_options (choose the profile) Note that much of the CSS3 spec is not stable so many implemented properties use the vendor prefixes (- o-, -webkit-, -moz- for example), and these will not validate. I don't see any harm in using them, as we need usage of these properties to see if the spec and implementations are on the right lines. The only thing would be to make sure that the none-prefixed version is also used so it will work when other browsers add support, and they are used in a way that the page degrades gracefully if there is no support (border-radius degrades gracefully as the user will just get square corners if it isn't supported in their browser. Opacity is supported by all major browsers (without vendor prefix) except IE. You can use CSS filters in a IE only stylesheet (via conditional comments for example) to add IE support. There will be no official release of CSS3 as such. It is broken into modules, and each module matures as it is ready. The closest we have is the 2007 profile of CSS, which defines what is ready circa 2007. This is CSS2.1, CSS 3 Namespaces, CSS3 Colour module and CSS3 Selectors. I'd expect CSS3 background and borders and CSS3 Media Queries and perhaps CSS3 Web Fonts to make it in the 2008 version. http://www.w3.org/TR/css-beijing/ On 2 Oct 2008, at 16:09, Ben Lau wrote: Hi all, I'm having trouble deciding whether to begin coding using CSS3, such as using (but not limited to) opacity. Although the CSS validator returns an error, but it claims it'll be supported in CSS3. As far as i know, FF2, FF3, Opera and Safari already renders the opacity property, leaving Internet Explorer, which we could use alpha properties in separate stylesheets and conditional comments. Anyone know if IE8 supports it? I haven't had a good look at all CSS3 properties yet, but I'm wondering if this is a good time to code for the future? Or better to wait for official release of CSS3? If CSS3 is released tomorrow, what about older browsers like IE6? Cheers, Ben *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** David Storey Chief Web Opener, Product Manager Opera Dragonfly, Consumer Product Manager Opera Core, W3C Mobile Web Best Practices Working Group member Consumer Product Management Developer Relations Opera Software ASA Oslo, Norway Mobile: +47 94 22 02 32 E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Blog: http://my.opera.com/dstorey *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
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