[WSG] Re: .NET sites which are XHTML 1.0 strict
Hi, I've been working with .Net since the very early days, and yes it does have it's frustrations initially to get sites to validate, however there is no reason why it can't be done. With .Net 1.1 we wrote a PageFiltering module which did a small amount of manipulation to the generated HTML to make it validate, however the class is no more than about 100 lines long. The only control we had to fix was the RadioButton, so that it could handle the group attribute. In regards to Visual Studio changing the markup. Firstly you can change your VS.Net preferences to stop capitalisation etc, also I'd recommend you never switch Design mode, you really should never need to anyway. Examples that do validate can be found at http://www.sjplaw.co.uk [1]and http://www.white-agency.co.uk [2] . Please bear in mind these is a content managed site, so the copywriters may have stopped some of the pages validating. Another example site that validates to XHTML 1.1 - http://www.eastyorkshireclassic.co.uk/nationals [3] As a development studio we have recently switched to the Castle MonoRail Framework, so we no longer have any issues at all making pages validate. To be honest WebForms are a poor technology and any self respecting web developer should be using the available MVC frameworks. You have to remember that WebForms were created for VB developers who were used to drag and drop GUI building and don't care about web standards, let alone really understand what it means. (I may be generalising here a bit, but I'm right in most cases). John Polling Senior Web Developer White Agency Links: -- [1] http://www.sjplaw.co.uk/ [2] http://www.white-agency.co.uk/ [3] http://www.eastyorkshireclassic.co.uk/nationals *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] .NET sites which are XHTML 1.0 strict
Peter Goddard wrote: It does require more effort than just using the standard control toolkits supplied by Microsoft [...] Additionally, there are best practices available which enable the placing of the server generated javascript to one area of the page (after the html) and JSON/AJAX/MVC Framework techniques which can also help. I think the criticisms leveled at ASP.Net are because, to get it to do things 'right', you have to go to all this extra effort you describe, when the supposed benefit of ASP.Net is that it makes life easier by hiding all this complexity from you and saving you the extra effort. Rob *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] RE: WSG Digest
I strongly, strongly recommend Shopify: http://www.shopify.com/?ref=fathom-digital I have implemented about 5 Shopify projects this year, and every one has been successful for both my agency and my clients. It's a hosted solution, written in RoR with SEO in mind. It's simply the easiest to teach my clients how set up and manage, and the user experience translates to consumer sales. If you must use a self-hosted and managed solution, check out Magento, written in PHP/MySQL and also very user-friendly for both consumer and administrator. The SEO is very solid, too. From: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: WSG Digest Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 21:07:44 +1100 * WEB STANDARDS GROUP MAIL LIST DIGEST * From: Love Web Design [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 11:01:02 +0100 Subject: trading eye ecommerce software Hi All,Has anyone used or reviewed tradingeye ecommerce cart cms software? It has been recommended to me by a colleague from a review, but as yet I do not know anyone that has used or implemented it. I wondered if anyone had any views of it? Basically, I have to implement cart/cms on client sites, roll out to clients and then teach the end users so I am in need of something that is: a) accessible - most sites are P2s b) quick and relatively easy to learn for me c) potentially easy to teach - this is always the hard one but the simpler the better I am new to carts and ecommerce in the grand scheme of things and this is a more difficult task than first thought, am looking for the most accessible product to buy into, to use, manipulate, teach, etc..Thanks in advance, Sarah Hall ** Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** _ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
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[WSG] [IE7 Glitch] footer is expanding, and acting wonky with scrolling.
Hi WSG! I've got a footer with rounded corners. I have a div.footer_wrap and div.footer for each corner. The technique worked already with all my other rounder corners. The only issue appears in the footer, maybe because its the only thing prone to scroll? Does anyone know what would fix this? I exhausted my self with various solutions. The live demo is here: http://monsterboxpro.com/dump/webtemp/index.html *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] [IE7 Glitch] footer is expanding, and acting wonky with scrolling.
just remove margin of p or p itself 2008/10/9 Andrew Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi WSG! I've got a footer with rounded corners. I have a div.footer_wrap and div.footer for each corner. The technique worked already with all my other rounder corners. The only issue appears in the footer, maybe because its the only thing prone to scroll? Does anyone know what would fix this? I exhausted my self with various solutions. The live demo is here: http://monsterboxpro.com/dump/webtemp/index.html *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] [IE7 Glitch] footer is expanding, and acting wonky with scrolling.
Margin is already set to zero. Removing the padding will fix it, but then there's no padding which defeats the purpose. Remove the p doesn't seem proper practice, and then applying padding to either div footer elements still causes the problem. Its just strange its only a problem with the footer and no other element with rounded corners on my page. I've come across this IE glitch I just can't find the solution to solve it again. On 9-Oct-08, at 2:53 PM, Сергей Кириченко wrote: just remove margin of p or p itself 2008/10/9 Andrew Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi WSG! I've got a footer with rounded corners. I have a div.footer_wrap and div.footer for each corner. The technique worked already with all my other rounder corners. The only issue appears in the footer, maybe because its the only thing prone to scroll? Does anyone know what would fix this? I exhausted my self with various solutions. The live demo is here: http://monsterboxpro.com/dump/webtemp/ index.html *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] [IE7 Glitch] footer is expanding, and acting wonky with scrolling.
recently came across something similar, and was able to solve with a combination of display:inline-block; on the p and overflow:hidden; on the containing div. Might want to give that a shot. On Oct 9, 2008, at 3:24 PM, Andrew Brown wrote: Margin is already set to zero. Removing the padding will fix it, but then there's no padding which defeats the purpose. Remove the p doesn't seem proper practice, and then applying padding to either div footer elements still causes the problem. Its just strange its only a problem with the footer and no other element with rounded corners on my page. I've come across this IE glitch I just can't find the solution to solve it again. 2008/10/9 Andrew Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] I've got a footer with rounded corners. I have a div.footer_wrap and div.footer for each corner. The technique worked already with all my other rounder corners. The only issue appears in the footer, maybe because its the only thing prone to scroll? Does anyone know what would fix this? I exhausted my self with various solutions. The live demo is here: http://monsterboxpro.com/dump/webtemp/index.html *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] [IE7 Glitch] footer is expanding, and acting wonky with scrolling.
Andrew Brown wrote:
Does anyone know what would fix this? I exhausted my self with
various solutions. The live demo is here:
http://monsterboxpro.com/dump/webtemp/index.html
Stiffen up IE's backbone with a 'hasLayout'[1] triggering declaration.
Add...
div.footer_wrap {height: 1%;}
...and it'll do fine.
BTW: 'display: relative;' that you have on the same element, must be a
mistake. No such 'display' value - you probably meant to write
'position: relative' but I can't see the need for that one either.
regards
Georg
[1]http://www.satzansatz.de/cssd/onhavinglayout.html
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