Re: [WSG] breaks, lists in a form or not, and more or less divs

2009-12-07 Thread Rae Buerckner
It's ok to use a double br / in this case :)

Cheers,

Rae

2009/12/7 Frances de Waal dw...@mac.com

 Hi there,

 May I ask your opinion about some semantic/HTML basics?

 In case of a poem, if I place every verse in a paragraph, what do I do with
 each line of text in the verse? Is this one of the very few occasions to use
 breaks? A verse doesn't seem a list to me... or is it? I like your opinion.

 In the very few tutorials I have seen about how to markup a form
 semantically, both were using  a list in the form. To me that seems totally
 unneccessary plus too much markup. Does anyone know what can be the reason
 of doing it that way?

 InContextEditing, the online CMS from Adobe, needs a extra div for every
 editable region. This makes me avoiding the tool. Some keep saying that
 extra divs don't make any difference to a page at all. I agree they have no
 meaning semantically, but they do create extra code which is not neccessary
 for the content. But then again, we don't talk about 100 divs here. So,
 besides of best practice, is there any place where the extra divs may have
 bad influence?

 Frances de Waal
 www.waalweb.nl

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[WSG] G'day from Copenhagen!

2009-12-07 Thread Paul Collins
Hi all,

I've decided to stop whinging about the lack of action on Climate Change and
do something about it! I am currently in Copenhagen for the Climate Change
Summit (COP15), which you've probably been hearing about.

There's a load of stuff going on behind the scenes that you won't get to see
on the news, such as Klimaforum - a totally seperate people's forum, where
anyone can attend. I've setup a Blog about these things, which I'll be
updating dailly. http://climatechangestuff.com

I'm no expert on this stuff and there is so much technical jargon out there;
the point of this trip is to learn more. The focus of the Blog is to
document what I'm finding out and make the issues easy to understand.

Please take a look if you're interested in Climate Change  COP15. I don't
want to annoy you with constant messaging if you're not though, so I've
setup a Facebook page, if you subscribe here you can get updates:
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Cozza/18826599?v=wall

Or, you can sign-up for email updates on the right hand column of the site.

Or Twitter: http://twitter.com/cozzabags

Cheers, and and all the best.
Paul


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[ADMIN] THREAD CLOSED - OFF TOPIC Re: [WSG] G'day from Copenhagen!

2009-12-07 Thread Lea de Groot




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Re: [WSG] G'day from Copenhagen!

2009-12-07 Thread Michael Horowitz
There is no action because the data has been totally faked.  Emails have 
been released proving the scientists promoting this fraud were making up 
the data as they were going along

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/11/20/cru_climate_hack/

But if you are so worried you can lower your carbon emissions by turning 
off your computer.  Facebook leaves a carbon imprint.  Turn off your air 
conditioning and heat too.


I assume you are planning on living in Copenhagen for the rest of your 
life.  Plane trips also leave a carbon footprint.  You should only go 
anywhere by walking. 


Now if we can get back on topic please

Michael Horowitz
Your Computer Consultant
http://yourcomputerconsultant.com
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Paul Collins wrote:

Hi all,

I've decided to stop whinging about the lack of action on Climate 
Change and do something about it! I am currently in Copenhagen for the 
Climate Change Summit (COP15), which you've probably been hearing about.


There's a load of stuff going on behind the scenes that you won't get 
to see on the news, such as Klimaforum - a totally seperate people's 
forum, where anyone can attend. I've setup a Blog about these things, 
which I'll be updating dailly. http://climatechangestuff.com


I'm no expert on this stuff and there is so much technical jargon out 
there; the point of this trip is to learn more. The focus of the Blog 
is to document what I'm finding out and make the issues easy to 
understand.


Please take a look if you're interested in Climate Change  COP15. I 
don't want to annoy you with constant messaging if you're not though, 
so I've setup a Facebook page, if you subscribe here you can get 
updates: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Cozza/18826599?v=wall


Or, you can sign-up for email updates on the right hand column of the 
site.


Or Twitter: http://twitter.com/cozzabags

Cheers, and and all the best.
Paul

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Re: [ADMIN] THREAD CLOSED - OFF TOPIC Re: [WSG] G'day from Copenhagen!

2009-12-07 Thread Paul Collins
Hi all

I'm really sorry for that last email, I sent it to the wrong list. Please
ignore it!

Cheers
Paul


2009/12/7 Lea de Groot w...@elysiansystems.com




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[WSG] Out of Office AutoReply: WSG Digest

2009-12-07 Thread Smith, Lee-Ann
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RE: [WSG] character codes and accessibility

2009-12-07 Thread Thierry Koblentz
Hi Luc,

 As regards the question what does a screen reader do? I'm afraid I've no
idea.

 I think this is best served with the image. One image in the CSS as
 opposed to multiple character codes in the HTML.

 Yup, but a wanted to stray away from the tradional path ;-)

 What i was worried about is the way how screen readers would
 interprete it. Apart from the extraneous code, it would come in handy
 as font sizing let's those tiny images (in my case it's a bread crumb
 trail) be tiny on bigger font sizes


I went through this recently with #9733; #9734; (stars). 
NVDA and JAWS ignored these HTML entities, so my guess is that they would
ignore #x00BB;

This is to reply to your question though, not to say that I agree with your
;-)


HTH

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