Re: [WSG] Site doesn't display correctly in IE - looking for some advice please

2010-01-04 Thread Jayachandran Kandasamy
Hey hedley..

I can see something more like the first PNG attachment man, validation is no
where related for the kind of issue you mentioned.

I hope you might have commented out some set of HTML tags or CSS, please
verify the code.

Happy New Year 2010 :)

Cheers,
JC

On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 11:46 PM, hed...@digitalessence.net 
hed...@digitalessence.net wrote:

 Hi,

 Wondering if you guys could please shed some light on why my latest site
 isn't working in IE correctly for some people (IE 7  IE 8).

 A few people have said that they can only see the green nav bar and the
 picture of trees below it and nothing else. They should be able to see more
 than that including a black footer with images and links.

 I have validated it and it passes ok but when I run it through browsershots
 I get the results mentioned above and can't see where I have gone wrong.

 The site is: http://bentonarboriculture.co.uk/test.html

 and I have attached two images, one of how it should look and the other of
 how it appears in IE

 many thanks, and Happy New Year!


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Re: [WSG] breaks, lists in a form or not, and more or less divs

2010-01-04 Thread Jayachandran Kandasamy
Please send me the price list of the same :)

On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 3:58 AM, Paco Lira paco.l...@gmail.com wrote:

 hello everybody,

 im having a out of business sale , my partner ship finish and im going on
 my own but we ened to sell the equipment.



1. Mac Pro G5

Specs:

G5 Quad Core 2.5 =  4 x 2.5 Processing power

Ram = 16GB  (two months old)

HDD = Brand New Samsung TB (1000GB) x2

Optional 2x(Samsung 22 ultra sharp)
2. Canon 500D with 18-55mm
3. Canon 18-135mm
4. Mac Mini with 4GB and snow leopard 6 months old
5. View sonic 32 LCD TV

 if any questions please let me know.



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Re: [WSG] breaks, lists in a form or not, and more or less divs

2010-01-04 Thread Jayachandran Kandasamy
Hi Dwaal,

Please dont practice to use BR tags for line breaks.. it is not standard web
development and lot of compatibility issues will occur across browsers and
internet devices :) :)

Thanks,
JC

On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 2:12 AM, Frances de Waal dw...@mac.com wrote:

 Hi there,

 May I ask your opinion about some semantic/HTML basics?

 In case of a poem, if I place every verse in a paragraph, what do I do with
 each line of text in the verse? Is this one of the very few occasions to use
 breaks? A verse doesn't seem a list to me... or is it? I like your opinion.

 In the very few tutorials I have seen about how to markup a form
 semantically, both were using  a list in the form. To me that seems totally
 unneccessary plus too much markup. Does anyone know what can be the reason
 of doing it that way?

 InContextEditing, the online CMS from Adobe, needs a extra div for every
 editable region. This makes me avoiding the tool. Some keep saying that
 extra divs don't make any difference to a page at all. I agree they have no
 meaning semantically, but they do create extra code which is not neccessary
 for the content. But then again, we don't talk about 100 divs here. So,
 besides of best practice, is there any place where the extra divs may have
 bad influence?

  Frances de Waal
 www.waalweb.nl

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RE: [WSG] breaks, lists in a form or not, and more or less divs

2010-01-04 Thread Rohit
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Please send me the price list of the same :) 


On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 3:58 AM, Paco Lira paco.l...@gmail.com wrote:


hello everybody, 
 
im having a out of business sale , my partner ship finish and im going on my
own but we ened to sell the equipment.
 

1.  Mac Pro G5

Specs: 

G5 Quad Core 2.5 =  4 x 2.5 Processing power

Ram = 16GB  (two months old)

HDD = Brand New Samsung TB (1000GB) x2

Optional 2x(Samsung 22 ultra sharp)


2.  Canon 500D with 18-55mm


3.  Canon 18-135mm


4.  Mac Mini with 4GB and snow leopard 6 months old


5.  View sonic 32 LCD TV

if any questions please let me know.

 


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Re: [WSG] breaks, lists in a form or not, and more or less divs

2010-01-04 Thread Chris F.A. Johnson
On Mon, 4 Jan 2010, Jayachandran Kandasamy wrote:

 Hi Dwaal,
 
 Please dont practice to use BR tags for line breaks..

   Why not? That's what they're for.

 it is not standard web development

   The W3C says otherwise.

 and lot of compatibility issues will occur across browsers and
 internet devices :) :)

   ??? Can you be more specific?

   Of course one shouldn't use them in continuous blocks of text (the
   browser will take care of it), but where a line break is needed
   they are fine.


 On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 2:12 AM, Frances de Waal dw...@mac.com wrote:
 
  Hi there,
 
  May I ask your opinion about some semantic/HTML basics?
 
  In case of a poem, if I place every verse in a paragraph, what do I do with
  each line of text in the verse? Is this one of the very few occasions to use
  breaks? A verse doesn't seem a list to me... or is it? I like your opinion.
 
  In the very few tutorials I have seen about how to markup a form
  semantically, both were using  a list in the form. To me that seems totally
  unneccessary plus too much markup. Does anyone know what can be the reason
  of doing it that way?
 
  InContextEditing, the online CMS from Adobe, needs a extra div for every
  editable region. This makes me avoiding the tool. Some keep saying that
  extra divs don't make any difference to a page at all. I agree they have no
  meaning semantically, but they do create extra code which is not neccessary
  for the content. But then again, we don't talk about 100 divs here. So,
  besides of best practice, is there any place where the extra divs may have
  bad influence?
 
   Frances de Waal
  www.waalweb.nl
 
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Re: [WSG] google chrome frame

2010-01-04 Thread Joseph Taylor

Tee,

IE6 is out there. Heck, IE5 is still out there (I made the decision to 
ignore IE5 already). How you deal with IE6 (or not) is up to you.


Personally, I still have to check IE6 and at least make sure my layouts 
are working properly. I try to do little things like limiting my use of 
.png files to a minimum so things don't look too ugly. IE6 is around, 
but it's old enough that I only go so far to make their experience match 
that of a modern browser.


I'd love to ignore IE6 too, but real people without a choice are using 
it in the workplace everyday.  A couple of my clients have an office 
full of Windows 2000 workstations.


The Chrome frame you mention can't be expected to be widely adopted on 
systems where the users can't even install anything period.


They probably use Chrome at home though.

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On 1/3/10 4:32 AM, tee wrote:
This new kid has been showing up in a number of sites' stats that I 
built.


Wonder if this may spread the use of HTML 5, also curious what benefit 
will it be for us web developers to push IE6 down to 18th level of hell.


For those corporations that are still using W2K and IE6, will IE6 
renders like Google Chrome if user installs Google Chrome Frame and 
that a site has it implemented?


It seems to be.

Quote: Users running Internet Explorer with Google Chrome Frame 
installed will automatically have their pages rendered by Google 
Chrome Frame


However it does not answered if we need to worry about fixing IE6 or not.

tee


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Re: [WSG] breaks, lists in a form or not, and more or less divs

2010-01-04 Thread Jayachandran Kandasamy
Use padding / margin thru CSS instead of BRs...

Thank u

On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 7:50 PM, Chris F.A. Johnson ch...@cfajohnson.comwrote:

 On Mon, 4 Jan 2010, Jayachandran Kandasamy wrote:

  Hi Dwaal,
 
  Please dont practice to use BR tags for line breaks..

   Why not? That's what they're for.

  it is not standard web development

   The W3C says otherwise.

  and lot of compatibility issues will occur across browsers and
  internet devices :) :)

   ??? Can you be more specific?

   Of course one shouldn't use them in continuous blocks of text (the
   browser will take care of it), but where a line break is needed
   they are fine.


  On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 2:12 AM, Frances de Waal dw...@mac.com wrote:
 
Hi there,
  
   May I ask your opinion about some semantic/HTML basics?
  
   In case of a poem, if I place every verse in a paragraph, what do I do
 with
   each line of text in the verse? Is this one of the very few occasions
 to use
   breaks? A verse doesn't seem a list to me... or is it? I like your
 opinion.
  
   In the very few tutorials I have seen about how to markup a form
   semantically, both were using  a list in the form. To me that seems
 totally
   unneccessary plus too much markup. Does anyone know what can be the
 reason
   of doing it that way?
  
   InContextEditing, the online CMS from Adobe, needs a extra div for
 every
   editable region. This makes me avoiding the tool. Some keep saying that
   extra divs don't make any difference to a page at all. I agree they
 have no
   meaning semantically, but they do create extra code which is not
 neccessary
   for the content. But then again, we don't talk about 100 divs here. So,
   besides of best practice, is there any place where the extra divs may
 have
   bad influence?
  
Frances de Waal
   www.waalweb.nl
  
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