Re: [WSG] Modal forms - what to call them?
On 07/20/2011 09:43 AM, Stevio wrote: User choice basically. They may prefer to see more of a form in its own page, or they may prefer to use a modal form to add the record. If JavaScript is disabled, the system still works fine with the non-modal form option. Take Facebook's current implementation of photos for example. A while back they introduced a modal viewing box for images. However, if you click F5 to refresh Firefox, you go back to the old style viewing of the image in it's own page. Often I do this because I prefer it, other times I persist with their viewing box. That's a really bad example, since that feature is user hostile, the F5 doesn't work in all browsers, and the same capabilities aren't available in both modes, for example with the popup much of the page is blocked and you can't click on links like home, and sometimes after browsing with the popup you get back where you were, and sometimes you don't. Please don't use it as an example. It makes you really wonder what problem they were trying to solve, and you should ask yourself the same. (Really page designers should always ask themselves that. It avoids doing something because it's a cool feature you learned about, but that makes things worse for users.) Patrick *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] Modal forms - what to call them?
- Original Message - From: Patrick Horgan phorg...@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 9:05 AM On 07/20/2011 09:43 AM, Stevio wrote: Take Facebook's current implementation of photos for example. A while back they introduced a modal viewing box for images. However, if you click F5 to refresh Firefox, you go back to the old style viewing of the image in it's own page. Often I do this because I prefer it, other times I persist with their viewing box. That's a really bad example, since that feature is user hostile, the F5 doesn't work in all browsers, and the same capabilities aren't available in both modes, for example with the popup much of the page is blocked and you can't click on links like home, and sometimes after browsing with the popup you get back where you were, and sometimes you don't. Please don't use it as an example. It makes you really wonder what problem they were trying to solve, and you should ask yourself the same. (Really page designers should always ask themselves that. It avoids doing something because it's a cool feature you learned about, but that makes things worse for users.) To the contrary, I think you strengthen my argument by highlighting the differences. There are advantages to both the modal and non-modal facebook implementation of images, and different users may prefer one over the other, which is the point I was trying to make. It is not a perfect illustration of what I am looking to do and I did not claim it was, so please do not over examine the comparison. If a user choice is clear and makes sense, and is not confusing, then why not give them that choice? My original intention was not to offer both choices but I have come to realise as I have developed the system, that if both options are implemented, then why not allow users to choose. They may prefer to be working on a page that is non-modal and they can click on links like home and have more workspace, or they may prefer to use a modal form to quickly add a record. Let's not write off an idea just because it isn't the way it's normally done. Thank you for your thoughts. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
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[WSG] z-index bug in webkit?
I have never experienced z-index issue before in webkit browsers and this one really got me. It's been two days still haven't been able to solve. Visit from Chorme or Safari, the slideshow has a transparent layer for texts. I do believe the z-indx order is correct because it works for IE6/7. http://bit.ly/qJoJcy Thank you! tee *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] z-index bug in webkit?
On 7/21/2011 10:10 PM, tee wrote: I have never experienced z-index issue before in webkit browsers and this one really got me. It's been two days still haven't been able to solve. Visit from Chorme or Safari, the slideshow has a transparent layer for texts. I do believe the z-indx order is correct because it works for IE6/7. http://bit.ly/qJoJcy Actually, it does not work well in any modern browser. Perhaps IE7 is its sweet spot :-) Looking at the page, I would say that z-index might be the least of your concerns. -- Al Sparber - PVII http://www.projectseven.com Menus | Galleries | Widgets For the Real World Since 1998 *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] z-index bug in webkit?
http://bit.ly/nX5se0 On Jul 21, 2011, at 7:21 PM, Al Sparber wrote: On 7/21/2011 10:10 PM, tee wrote: I have never experienced z-index issue before in webkit browsers and this one really got me. It's been two days still haven't been able to solve. Visit from Chorme or Safari, the slideshow has a transparent layer for texts. I do believe the z-indx order is correct because it works for IE6/7. http://bit.ly/qJoJcy Actually, it does not work well in any modern browser. Perhaps IE7 is its sweet spot :-) *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
[WSG] Re-ask: z-index bug in webkit?
p/s: Please ignore my previous thread as it is a static page and the slide images' links to my local server. I have never experienced z-index issue before in webkit browsers and this one really got me. It's been two days still haven't been able to solve. Visit from Chorme or Safari, the slideshow has a transparent layer for texts. I do believe the z-indx order is correct because it works for IE6/7. http://bit.ly/oyBzIY Thank you! tee *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
RE: [WSG] Re-ask: z-index bug in webkit?
Hi Tee The link isn't working. http://bit.ly/oyBzIY; Please can you check the link. Regards Birendra -Original Message- From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of tee Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 10:38 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] Re-ask: z-index bug in webkit? p/s: Please ignore my previous thread as it is a static page and the slide images' links to my local server. I have never experienced z-index issue before in webkit browsers and this one really got me. It's been two days still haven't been able to solve. Visit from Chorme or Safari, the slideshow has a transparent layer for texts. I do believe the z-indx order is correct because it works for IE6/7. http://bit.ly/oyBzIY Thank you! tee *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] Re-ask: z-index bug in webkit?
Strange, it works for me. http://bit.ly/oyBzIY tee On Jul 21, 2011, at 10:27 PM, Birendra wrote: Hi Tee The link isn't working. http://bit.ly/oyBzIY; Please can you check the link. Regards Birendra -Original Message- From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of tee Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 10:38 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] Re-ask: z-index bug in webkit? p/s: Please ignore my previous thread as it is a static page and the slide images' links to my local server. I have never experienced z-index issue before in webkit browsers and this one really got me. It's been two days still haven't been able to solve. Visit from Chorme or Safari, the slideshow has a transparent layer for texts. I do believe the z-indx order is correct because it works for IE6/7. http://bit.ly/oyBzIY Thank you! tee *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
