Re: [WSG] media queries can't understand body tag
My name is Ted Knoy and I have been receiving your company's e-mail for some time. I assume that this is confidential company information so I don't understand why I have been receiving your e-mail for nearly two months now. You should report this to Google or change your e-mail settings. On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 11:50 AM, tee weblis...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Hassan, Thank you for your patient. I did figure it after my post, from xcode's web inspector, a feature I never used before until today. From the this inspector I could see the difference from the one from Safari. Some people are kind and patience by nature (you), some never afraid to show his stupidity and ignorance publicly (I'm talking about myself), and some are snarky by nature, which is David :-) Luckily the world is big enough to for everyone. Tee On Sep 28, 2011, at 5:27 PM, Hassan Schroeder wrote: but I have never seen an article that tells how you can test what elements get loaded in the mobile Safari Maybe the third time's the charm -- Set up your test page and access it from your iOS device while *watching the server log*. Did the device request the image in question or not? Is there something confusing or ambiguous about that? -- *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
[WSG] A very strange webkit bug, or Firefox?
Please go to these pages from Webkit browsers (first) and Firefox.
There shouldn't have padding top for the image for We Recommend, padding top
is caused by the padding-left:13px; – any value will trigger the padding in
the EVEN set of the floated block in Webkit browsers [1].
a[href^=http]{background: url(icon-external.png) no-repeat right
3px;padding-left:13px;}
http://jsbin.com/ozeqon [1]
If you change padding-left to padding-top or padding-bottom, the extra
padding goes away.
In these two examples the paddings are gone.
padding-top
http://jsbin.com/ozeqon/3/
padding-bottom
http://jsbin.com/ozeqon/5
[1] If you check the page from Firefox, you will see that all images have
padding (top) above image (this is the reason for my or Firefox in the
subject line), however in my origninal code I had padding-right:13px
(which is why I first thought it's webkit bug - all in all wasted my 3
working days to find the cause and I assure you nobody can't imagine how upset
I was when I found what caused the issue – and I think I will go jump from the
bridge if anybody going to tell me the padding in the above rule isn't the
issue but my other CSS codes).
a[href^=http]{background: url(icon-external.png) no-repeat right
3px;padding-right:13px;}
http://jsbin.com/ozeqon/4/
Let see what padding:13px does. It's identical to padding-left:13px; above.
http://jsbin.com/ozeqon/6
tee
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Re: [WSG] A very strange webkit bug, or Firefox?
Display:block for A element should solve your porblem.
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On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 12:17, tee weblis...@gmail.com wrote:
Please go to these pages from Webkit browsers (first) and Firefox.
There shouldn't have padding top for the image for We Recommend, padding
top is caused by the padding-left:13px; – any value will trigger the
padding in the EVEN set of the floated block in Webkit browsers [1].
a[href^=http]{background: url(icon-external.png) no-repeat right
3px;padding-left:13px;}
http://jsbin.com/ozeqon [1]
If you change padding-left to padding-top or padding-bottom, the
extra padding goes away.
In these two examples the paddings are gone.
padding-top
http://jsbin.com/ozeqon/3/
padding-bottom
http://jsbin.com/ozeqon/5
[1] If you check the page from Firefox, you will see that all images have
padding (top) above image (this is the reason for my or Firefox in the
subject line), however in my origninal code I had padding-right:13px
(which is why I first thought it's webkit bug - all in all wasted my 3
working days to find the cause and I assure you nobody can't imagine how
upset I was when I found what caused the issue – and I think I will go jump
from the bridge if anybody going to tell me the padding in the above rule
isn't the issue but my other CSS codes).
a[href^=http]{background: url(icon-external.png) no-repeat right
3px;padding-right:13px;}
http://jsbin.com/ozeqon/4/
Let see what padding:13px does. It's identical to padding-left:13px;
above.
http://jsbin.com/ozeqon/6
tee
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Re: [WSG] A very strange webkit bug, or Firefox?
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On 29/09/2011 11:26, Kristaps Ancāns wrote:
Display:block for A element should solve your porblem.
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http://www.metalguide.org, motorolleri.lv http://motorolleri.lv
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 12:17, tee weblis...@gmail.com
mailto:weblis...@gmail.com wrote:
Please go to these pages from Webkit browsers (first) and Firefox.
There shouldn't have padding top for the image for We Recommend,
padding top is caused by the padding-left:13px; – any value will
trigger the padding in the EVEN set of the floated block in Webkit
browsers [1].
a[href^=http]{background: url(icon-external.png) no-repeat right
3px;padding-left:13px;}
http://jsbin.com/ozeqon [1]
If you change padding-left to padding-top or padding-bottom,
the extra padding goes away.
In these two examples the paddings are gone.
padding-top
http://jsbin.com/ozeqon/3/
padding-bottom
http://jsbin.com/ozeqon/5
[1] If you check the page from Firefox, you will see that all
images have padding (top) above image (this is the reason for my
or Firefox in the subject line), however in my origninal code I
had padding-right:13px
(which is why I first thought it's webkit bug - all in all wasted
my 3 working days to find the cause and I assure you nobody can't
imagine how upset I was when I found what caused the issue – and I
think I will go jump from the bridge if anybody going to tell me
the padding in the above rule isn't the issue but my other CSS codes).
a[href^=http]{background: url(icon-external.png) no-repeat right
3px;padding-right:13px;}
http://jsbin.com/ozeqon/4/
Let see what padding:13px does. It's identical to
padding-left:13px; above.
http://jsbin.com/ozeqon/6
tee
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Re: [WSG] A very strange webkit bug, or Firefox?
On 29/09/2011 11:26, Kristaps Ancāns wrote:
Display:block for A element should solve your porblem.
Thank you!
Can't believe it! I swear that was the first thing I did when I saw that
padding in Webkit browsers.
Checked my style again and found this:
.grid-items li a img {display:block;}
Still, anybody know why the padding in that rule results different rendering in
Webkit, and only occure in even set of block?
tee
On 29/09/2011 11:26, Kristaps Ancāns wrote:
Display:block for A element should solve your porblem.
Kristaps Ancāns
Senior web developer (coder)
Mob.: +34 644340683
E-pasts: kristaps.anc...@gmail.com
Skype: kristaps.ancans
Web: fyfi.net, metalguide.org, motorolleri.lv
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 12:17, tee weblis...@gmail.com wrote:
Please go to these pages from Webkit browsers (first) and Firefox.
There shouldn't have padding top for the image for We Recommend, padding
top is caused by the padding-left:13px; – any value will trigger the
padding in the EVEN set of the floated block in Webkit browsers [1].
a[href^=http]{background: url(icon-external.png) no-repeat right
3px;padding-left:13px;}
http://jsbin.com/ozeqon [1]
If you change padding-left to padding-top or padding-bottom, the extra
padding goes away.
In these two examples the paddings are gone.
padding-top
http://jsbin.com/ozeqon/3/
padding-bottom
http://jsbin.com/ozeqon/5
[1] If you check the page from Firefox, you will see that all images have
padding (top) above image (this is the reason for my or Firefox in the
subject line), however in my origninal code I had padding-right:13px
(which is why I first thought it's webkit bug - all in all wasted my 3
working days to find the cause and I assure you nobody can't imagine how
upset I was when I found what caused the issue – and I think I will go jump
from the bridge if anybody going to tell me the padding in the above rule
isn't the issue but my other CSS codes).
a[href^=http]{background: url(icon-external.png) no-repeat right
3px;padding-right:13px;}
http://jsbin.com/ozeqon/4/
Let see what padding:13px does. It's identical to padding-left:13px; above.
http://jsbin.com/ozeqon/6
tee
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Re: [WSG] media queries can't understand body tag
Unsubscribe link is in the footer. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 29, 2011, at 2:46 AM, Teddy Knoy tedk...@gmail.com wrote: My name is Ted Knoy and I have been receiving your company's e-mail for some time. I assume that this is confidential company information so I don't understand why I have been receiving your e-mail for nearly two months now. You should report this to Google or change your e-mail settings. On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 11:50 AM, tee weblis...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Hassan, Thank you for your patient. I did figure it after my post, from xcode's web inspector, a feature I never used before until today. From the this inspector I could see the difference from the one from Safari. Some people are kind and patience by nature (you), some never afraid to show his stupidity and ignorance publicly (I'm talking about myself), and some are snarky by nature, which is David :-) Luckily the world is big enough to for everyone. Tee On Sep 28, 2011, at 5:27 PM, Hassan Schroeder wrote: but I have never seen an article that tells how you can test what elements get loaded in the mobile Safari Maybe the third time's the charm -- Set up your test page and access it from your iOS device while *watching the server log*. Did the device request the image in question or not? Is there something confusing or ambiguous about that? -- *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] media queries can't understand body tag
I did figure it after my post, from xcode's web inspector, a feature I never used before until today. Tee Care to share what you found out? Thanks. ~d -- Desktop. Laptop. Tablet. Mobile! http://chelseacreekstudio.com/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
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Re: [WSG] media queries can't understand body tag
If you have SDKs, you can open Dashcode, create a page for Mobile Safari and check the resource log. There is also Browser simulator but this one for both desktop and mobile I think. Still exploring so not fully sure what I see is exactly correct. Trying to figure all these another question has arisen. Take iPad for example which supports portrait and landscape, so if I have two separate images target for the two, doesn't it load two images? Say, I first view a page from landscape and this loads the image from it media query, then I switch to portrait, it loads the image from its media query, when it does, the one from landscape has already been loaded so it won't just magically gone when I am still at the portrait right? If I'm driving anybody crazy, some comfort for you: I am alredy driving myself crazy, so you are just offloading the craziness from me. The craziness you thought from my question isn't from my question actually. tee On Sep 29, 2011, at 9:37 AM, David Laakso wrote: I did figure it after my post, from xcode's web inspector, a feature I never used before until today. Tee Care to share what you found out? Thanks. ~d *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] media queries can't understand body tag
I would just add orientation to your queries and show/hide the right one with the orientation change. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 29, 2011, at 5:28 PM, tee weblis...@gmail.com wrote: If you have SDKs, you can open Dashcode, create a page for Mobile Safari and check the resource log. There is also Browser simulator but this one for both desktop and mobile I think. Still exploring so not fully sure what I see is exactly correct. Trying to figure all these another question has arisen. Take iPad for example which supports portrait and landscape, so if I have two separate images target for the two, doesn't it load two images? Say, I first view a page from landscape and this loads the image from it media query, then I switch to portrait, it loads the image from its media query, when it does, the one from landscape has already been loaded so it won't just magically gone when I am still at the portrait right? If I'm driving anybody crazy, some comfort for you: I am alredy driving myself crazy, so you are just offloading the craziness from me. The craziness you thought from my question isn't from my question actually. tee On Sep 29, 2011, at 9:37 AM, David Laakso wrote: I did figure it after my post, from xcode's web inspector, a feature I never used before until today. Tee Care to share what you found out? Thanks. ~d *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] media queries can't understand body tag
On 9/29/11 5:28 PM, tee wrote: Trying to figure all these another question has arisen. Take iPad for example which supports portrait and landscape, so if I have two separate images target for the two, doesn't it load two images? Say, I first view a page from landscape and this loads the image from it media query, then I switch to portrait, it loads the image from its media query, when it does, the one from landscape has already been loaded so it won't just magically gone when I am still at the portrait right? tee Keep it simple. Granted, this is far easier said than done, and god knows I am not good at it, either. But when push comes to shove, any site that requires anything beyond basic readability and functionality for its success [such as a decorative background image] -- regardless of whether it is viewed on desktop, laptop, tablet, or mobile -- is in deep trouble. Best, ~d -- Desktop. Laptop. Tablet. Mobile! http://chelseacreekstudio.com/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
