Re: [WSG] XHTML5 polyglot markup and WAI-ARIA, is there a valid way?

2012-07-27 Thread Kevin L. Erickson
I am also looking into some similar areas. Looking for replies???

Kevin Erickson
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On Jul 26, 2012, at 6:41 PM, Isabel Santos unboun...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all,
  
 I've been researching for a way to use aria roles and states, to enhance 
 accessibility on a web application, but it seems to be turning my brain into 
 a soup of glia cells and floating neurons flashing like crazy fireflies!
  
 I decided to use polyglot markup, allthough it involved serving it as 
 text-html for old trident browsers, to be able to include xml content on the 
 site (wich I'm still learning). 
  
 Since I'm using dropdown menus, that do not open on tab focus without 
 javascript, I decided to try on wai-aria to improve the overall accessibility 
 of the site, complementing the semantics, with or without javascript. And all 
 was well, I was loving the idea and the new possibilities WAI-ARIA brings to 
 the game, untill I tested it in http://validator.nu/.
  
 According to the Polyglot Markup: HTML-Compatible XHTML Documents 
 (http://www.w3.org/TR/html-polyglot/)
 I shouldn't use any docktype on the head of the document besides the 
 !DOCTYPE HTML declaration,
 and am only allowed to use the default namespaces
 html xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml;
 math xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML;
 svg xmlns=http://www.w3.org/2000/svg;
 wich by the way, I can and should omit, because they are included in the 
 html5 by default.
  
 Yet XHTML is, according to http://www.alistapart.com/articles/waiaria/ the 
 extendible markup language, so it makes sense to extended it.
 Also, xml is supposed to allow for publication and standardization of 
 doctypes and schemas, to avoid the need to be always reinventing the weel, 
 and to allow easier document sharing.
 Since WAI-ARIA is gaining so mutch ground in terms of implementation (I'm 
 gessing probably more driven by the mobile market then by the screen reader 
 user needs) their should be already a doctype or a schema learking around.
 I'm not sure the one on ALAs exemple is what I need, but then again, it seems 
 to have been designed to xhtml 1.1, not to polyglot XHTML5.
  
 I canĀ“t avoid stranging that I'm finding so few documents on the web 
 mentioning both polyglot markup and WAI-ARIA, most of them refering to older 
 xhtml versions, stating the incompatibility, whille telling us to break the 
 standards in favor of the accessibility (no doubt accessibility is more 
 important, but why should one have to choose?).
  
 I'm probably missing something here, this doesn't make much sense, I'm 
 really, really confused, too many documents, from several different groups, 
 and I'm far from an expert.
 Can any of you offer some guidance on the matter?
  
 already gratefull for your time,
 regards
 isabel santos
 
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[WSG] Out of Office AutoReply: WSG Digest

2012-07-27 Thread Gerst, Kim
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