Well Primarily I think this depends upon your audience. Some audiences
will actually still require solid support for older netscape browsers,
but most will not.
Mostly I would treat everything before 6.2 as obsolete, and thus not
really requiring testing (just avoid known issues)
Personally thes
Hi all
Netscape 4.7 is the tricky one. You need to do a
balancing act between 4.7 and 7.x compliance. However the latest google stats
clearly puts ie 6.x ahead of the rest. Mozilla might catch up, though the
current share is a below 1%
Cheers
Dippy
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This is interesting - but lots of people still use Navigator right?
I guess I was asking the difference between build numbers too, because the Netscape site has versions 7.1, 7.0, 6.2, 6.1, 4.7, 4.8 4.6, 4.5, 4.0, 3.0 and 2.0. Obviously I don't want have to check in them all ...
On 15/03/2004, a
Hello Peter,
>What's a good version of Netscape Navigator to check in? v 7.1 or v7?
it's usefull to install v6.1 or v7.0 (around 2% of users), because you can check a bug
with conform coded forms (labels). (AFAIK: Later Versions work like Mozi.)
Greetings
Stefan
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Peter
Netscape 7 is built off stable Mozilla 1.x code (1.01 I think) and they
both use Gecko (the rendering engine). It's basically Mozilla without
the AOL crap mixed in.
Both Firefox and Camino betas are based off this engine as well (Firefox
is the browser part of Mozilla 1.6a)
This means th
D. Keith Robinson has started an interesting discussion, called 'Why
Not Web Standards?', at Asterisk. He's asking why people aren't using
web standards, and the reasons for it:
"Im very curious as to why people have shied away from Web
standards. Im very interested in hearing from people who ei
That is a loaded question... Depends on what level of browser you intend to
support. I'd install 7, 6 and 4.x, just so you can see how it operates, but
that is just me...
All browsers are available here:
http://browsers.evolt.org/
Russ
> What's a good version of Netscape Navigator to check in?
What's a good version of Netscape Navigator to check in? v 7.1 or v7?
is there a big difference? Is it worth checking in older versions?
What's the Netscape skinny basically?
Thanks!
Peter (obviously setting up a PC testing machine ...)
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The di
Well since quirksmode is full of css and js tests I might suggest you
merely peruse some of the Peter's tests and examples there.
I'm not sure that anyone has done a rigourous point by point check to
see that these browsers are exactly the same as if they were regular
installs, but they seem to
As Peter mentioned in an earlier post, "For inspiration, look at traditional
design as well as other websites"
I think this is the best advice that could be offered to anyone who doesn't
have a design background.
With the wonders of css we should be able to reproduce any design we like.
Magazines,
I've installed IE 5.01, 5.5 and 6 on my Windows2000 box using this
method:
http://www.quirksmode.org/browsers/multipleie.html
However, does anyone know a way of testing that these are acting as
they should for each version number?
Peter
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The
You are quite right, Hugh. I'm a professional at what I do, and I tell my
clients that there's nothing stopping them getting out notepad or Frontpage
and doing their own sites. There aren't any secret programming techniques
in web sites. But they don't because they're good at running an off-road
I'm wondering if there's an online or open source tool that provides the
functionality of DMX2004's Relevant CSS Tab feature. I hand-code my
pages, but I've tried this feature and although I found it very useful,
I don't think it's $400-useful. I'm sure most on this list are familiar
with this
Peter Gifford's beautiful work makes me wonder if I should call myself a designer at all.
I should point out that Hugh and I know each other and are friends - but shucks, thanks mate! ;)
In the same way, the fact that everyone on this list either can, or is learning to, make web pages using CSS d
This has been discussed on the list last week. If you log in to the
webstandardsgroup discussion list archive, and do a search for the
keyword IE7, you will be able to read the posts relating to this
subject:
http://webstandardsgroup.org/manage/archive.cfm?body=1&searchstring=ie
7
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Yes, I think that is the best work around. Thanks.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Robert Moser
Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2004 6:51 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [WSG] loading links when loading a page.
Kim Buttery blurted out:
> A
Thank you. I went to the Microsoft reference link you gave me . This
appears to apply to versions of IE prior to version 5.x. What I really want to
do is just prevent the web pages from continuing to show 'visited' color on
repeated visits.. Maybe I will just use link and hover
states..
Fr
English is wonderful language to breed misunderstanding. I don't want to
change the visit count, just the appearance when a page is loaded. If the
appearance goes with the count, then you are correct, I do not want to
change it. A little knowledge is a dangerous thing. Thank you for your
recommen
That "IE7" hack looks interesting and I would like to have a play with
it, but the download "link" doesn't seem to be functional...
Has anyone else been able to get hold of it?
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Sent: Monday
Thank you. I will have to keep searching, It may have been a VB script.
I'll keep looking unless someone else has a better idea. I wish I could
remember where I saw it. Kim
Kim Buttery
1096 Gayles Road
Urbanna, VA 23175
804.758.0707
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Hi,
I am a firm believer in standards and mostly just keep an eye on the list
(very erratically) to see what is going on and find out about resources that
I might have missed out on otherwise.
I actively support standards but am beginning to get annoyed at some of the
latest standards coming out
Thanks for posting that James. Further info: you can do this if you are using
Opera 7. Just go View > Small Screen. You'll get a simulation of how the page
looks on a handheld PDA device.
Regards
PAUL ROSS
SkyRocket Design Co
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> quote:
> "Disruptive Inno
Michael,
Peter Gifford's beautiful work makes me wonder if I should call myself
a designer at all.
But what he didn't say was what I have long maintained.
The fact that everyone (more or less) can pick up a pencil does not
mean that everyone can draw beautifully.
In the same way, the fact tha
On Monday, March 15, 2004, at 10:10 AM, Kim Buttery wrote:
A number of my web pages insist that links I visited, when checking
them remain in the 'visited' state in the future. I would like the
links to revert to a none-visited state when a page loads. I believe
there should be an 'on load' in
You probably thought of this:
TJ
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kim Buttery
Sent: March 14, 2004 7:11 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [WSG] loading links when
loading a page.
A number of
Kim Buttery blurted out:
A number of my web pages insist that links I visited, when checking them
remain in the 'visited' state in the future. I would like the links to
revert to a none-visited state when a page loads. I believe there should
be an 'on load' instruction but I have not been able t
You might be able to do this with Javascript, but CSS & HTML know nothing
about events such as onload. By default most browsers render the links in
the CSS visited state until you clear your browser history.
Unfortunately I don't think Javascript has a concept of "visited" in the way
CSS does, so
A number of my web pages insist
that links I visited, when checking them remain in the 'visited' state in the
future. I would like the links to revert to a none-visited state when a page
loads. I believe there should be an 'on load' instruction but I have not been
able to find the syntax in
as a matter of interest ...
http://developers.slashdot.org/developers/04/03/12/0454228.shtml
Wendy Phillips
Job Ready (Learning & Development)
Customer Sales & Service
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the context menu in Firebird is the mneu that appears when you click in
an empty area of a webpage
--
Neerav Bhatt
http://www.bhatt.id.au
IE view allows you to launch a page into IE from a Mozilla browser, from
the context menu.
http://extensionroom.mozdev.org/more-info/ieview
Whats is the con
James:
Nice heads-up. Thanks.
> A quick troll through the extensionroom at mozdev this lazy sunday
> afternoon showed up some interesting tools that may be of help when
> developing/designing/tweaking your next masterpiece:
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