Hi everyone, I just signed on to this list today and just set up a new
filter and corralled all the messages.
I would like to download this new toolbar for accessibility testing.
Everyone's talking about it but I couldn't find a url - anyone?
I'm mainly here to lurk 'n learn, don't tend to be
At 07:15 on Wednesday, 14 Jul 2004, Donna Jones wrote:
Hi everyone, I just signed on to this list today and just set up a new
filter and corralled all the messages.
I would like to download this new toolbar for accessibility testing.
Everyone's talking about it but I couldn't find a url -
Donna,
You can get the toolbar at
http://www.nils.org.au/ais/web/resources/toolbar/index.html.
It's a great tool.
Welcome to the group.
Enjoy,
Lee Roberts
-Original Message-
From: Donna Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 12:15 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Donna
web accessibility toolbar:
http://www.nils.org.au/ais/web/resources/toolbar/
with regards
Steven Faulkner
Web Accessibility Consultant
National Information Library Service (NILS)
454 Glenferrie Road
Kooyong Victoria 3144
Phone: (613) 9864 9281
Fax: (613) 9864 9210
Email: [EMAIL
I dont know the authors, but they import nearly everystyleshee used on the
site
why not keep the styles in one file and import that ?
/* @import url(template.css); */
/* @import url(article-tools.css); */
/* @import url(article-list.css); */
/* @import url(chart-pack.css); */
/* @import
Well thanks everyone!! I think I've got it. :-)
Donna
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Donna
web accessibility toolbar:
http://www.nils.org.au/ais/web/resources/toolbar/
with regards
Steven Faulkner
Web Accessibility Consultant
National Information Library Service (NILS)
454 Glenferrie Road
Kooyong
/* @import url(template.css); */
/* @import url(article-tools.css); */
/* @import url(article-list.css); */
/* @import url(store.css); */
/* @import url(TOC.css); */
OMG
theres organisational skills but then theres organisational skills.
imports are now generally used for IE css bug
Ted Drake wrote:
I'm wondering if anyone has any more concrete opinions on the
practice of defining width of input and select fields with
css instead of the size attribute.
There is a big problem with defining the width of input and select
fields over CSS:
Internet Explorer 6 (Windows)
imports are now generally used for IE css bug fixes.
but thats a bit overboard.
Could you qualify this statement please? @import is used to import
stylesheets. We don't want to give members who might be new to CSS the
wrong idea here.
The site probably won't validate either due to some
Good morning people,
Im attempting to have two div's that are floated (one left, one right) staying to
the same height as each other, now i know i've come accross this problem before and
im sure the way i fixed it was by puting a div style=clear:both below the two
floats.
Now is that the
imports are now generally used for IE css bug fixes.
but thats a bit overboard.
Could you qualify this statement please? @import is used to import
stylesheets. We don't want to give members who might be new to CSS the
wrong idea here.
thats one valid point.
but its a trend to put IE CSS fixes and
In FireFox .8 the two fields appear different in length on both quirks
on and off.
marco della pina wrote:
Ted Drake wrote:
I'm wondering if anyone has any more concrete opinions on the
practice of defining width of input and select fields with
css instead of the size attribute.
There
Im attempting to have two div's that are floated (one left, one right) staying to
the same height as each other
I think this is a problem 99% of people on this list have had. And alas
there is no simple solution. Alistapart has a great article that at
least makes it seem like both divs
Marco della Pina:
Internet Explorer 6 (Windows) (only!) in Standard Mode has a bug in
its rendering engine, i.e. the CSS-Definition width: 200px; is wider
for an input field than for a select box.
Mariusz Stankiewicz
In FireFox .8 the two fields appear different in length on both quirks
on and
It could be
that if padding, border and margin values are set (let's say
to zero) the widths of the different form controls may be the
same - or at least a bit closer ;)
I wouldn't hold my breath on that one. Form elements are notoriously
difficult to consistently style, as they are
On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 10:45 , Joe Leech [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent:
I think this is a problem 99% of people on this list have had. And alas
there is no simple solution. Alistapart has a great article that at
least makes it seem like both divs are the same height.:
Thanks joe, but im sure i've
Justin French wrote:
In my opinion, you still need to set a default width for the element
using the size attribute, for those without CSS. Yes, it will be
overridden with CSS for 99% of your browsing audience, but it safer to
put *something* in there as default, since you have no idea how a
Tania
- you're correct. The "display:inline" turns out to be, er, vestigal and the
effect works fine without it. What Iwasworried about is why is
"float:left" was allowing me to give the li a width. But... with the
"display:inline" out of the way, the li is a block-element, so applying
er.
stupid question. an li IS a block element.
sorry...
s:r
-Original Message-
Is the
issue that giving an element float makes the browser treat it as a block
element?
Is the issue that giving an element float makes
the browser treat it as a block element?
LI is a block level element by default, so you can apply width, regardless
of whether or not it's floated.
Patrick
Patrick H. Lauke
Webmaster / University of Salford
On Jul 14, 2004, at 1:10 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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If you have suddenly been thrown into digest mode and don't know why,
it's
Re: [WSG] Oh, the humanity!
I've always loved AMG so I took a look.
Interestingly, the company has addressed some of the problems that have been
brought up on this list including the slow response time at: http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amgtoken=sql=32:amg/info_pages/a_responses.html
AMG has posted a response to the criticism of the new design here (amusing):
http://www.gloriousnoise.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=1992
Here's the text:
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Responses to the major user feedback issues suitable for forums, blogs, etc.
GENERAL COMMENTS
We've been on the net since 1995 providing a
Hi Folks,
I was just wondering if anybody can point me in the direction of a
sportswear or fashion site using web standards?
Andy Budd
http://www.message.uk.com/
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Hey everyone,
Thanks for all of the great information. I didn't expect so many thoughtful
responses. Becuase our site wants to be as accessible and usable, I will go ahead and
add the size attributes to the input tags for browsers that cannot access the style
sheets.
---
Justin French
Hi Everyone
I hate to keep flooding this arena with questions, but I can't find the answer to this
one and it might be helpful to others.
We have a form and we used to use a popup window to offer more information about a
field. For instance, when answering the question Initial Deposit Date, if
I've looked on the W3C.org site and I don't see any mention of the
title attribute being allowed or not allowed on elements other than images
and links.
title is part of the core attributes which can be applied to pretty much
everything
(with a few exceptions)
Does anyone know of any decent standards-based radio station
sites? Ive been looking around lately for a project and I havent
found a single one that is any good at all from an accessibility/standards
standpoint.
It seems for the majority of radio stations theyve
either let their
I do that myself, and it works wonderfully. The title attribute is
extremely well supported, including IE. BTW, you might want to give
some visual cue that the user can hover over it... I put a faint gray
line underneath such elements (marked with a span), and also bring in
the help cursor.
hope someone finds this discussion useful.
Yes I do!
I have also wondered why this happens.
I mean, because something is INLINE, doesn't mean it shouldn't be able
to have a set width...
I would think its more of a reason to set a width, because it is being
set inline with another element -
JJJ just revampted their entire site, but its 100% table based. nothing
that neat
Michael Kear wrote:
Does anyone know of any decent standards-based radio station sites?
Ive been looking around lately for a project and I havent found a
single one that is any good at all from an
The voices are telling me that Lee Roberts said on 7/13/2004 7:36 PM:
Interesting concept there and I'm glad it works.
Problem is still the same. No one made a tool for Opera. You just hacked a
solution to make it do what you wanted it to do. Without your excellent
knowledge and fine
It is probably worth mentioning that not all user agents will represent
your title in the same way (if at all), safari f'rinstance puts the
title text in the status bar rather than a tooltip...
I do like patrick's visual indicator idea, that dotted line is fast
becoming an accepted method for
Opera says, Opera has been designed to recognize and work with many
plug-ins that work with Netscape.
Then in the same paragraph Opera says, If you don't see a certain program
listed here, and you would like to know if it works with Opera, please give
it a try! People often figure out how to get
http://www.onetruefit.com is the only one I can think of...
On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 16:33:08 +0100, Andy Budd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I was just wondering if anybody can point me in the direction of a
sportswear or fashion site using web standards?
--
Kay Smoljak
http://kay.smoljak.com
http://www.onetruefit.com/ - Lee Jeans, and an interview with the design
guy http://www.webstandards.org/learn/interviews/rcarver/
His company has more in the portfolio section as well.
http://www.lookandfeel.com/
Tim Hill
Computer Associates
Graphic Artist
tel: +612 9937 0792
fax: +612 9937
On Jul 14, 2004, at 4:46 PM, scott parsons wrote:
It is probably worth mentioning that not all user agents will
represent your title in the same way (if at all), safari f'rinstance
puts the title text in the status bar rather than a tooltip...
That's not so. Safari (v125.8 anyway) puts titles in
ok, my bad...
I'm outa the office at the mo' . My version of safari is 1.0 and I
remember that effect, I'll have to test later
s
Sage Olson wrote:
On Jul 14, 2004, at 4:46 PM, scott parsons wrote:
It is probably worth mentioning that not all user agents will
represent your title in the same way
Hi
I'd be interested in John Horner's comments on this, as he's a member of
this list. Given the ABC is a government organisation shouldn't they
really be fulfilling some requirements of the DDA?
I'd have thought making the feature image (Chris and Craig at the mo) a
non background image would
Hill, Tim wrote:
http://www.onetruefit.com/ - Lee Jeans, and an interview with the design
guy http://www.webstandards.org/learn/interviews/rcarver/
His company has more in the portfolio section as well.
http://www.lookandfeel.com/
After reading that interview, I'm a bit dark on this...
Carver
Via http://www.webstandardsawards.com :
http://www.esfootwear.com
Nick
Hi Folks,
I was just wondering if anybody can point me in the direction of a
sportswear or fashion site using web standards?
Andy Budd
http://www.message.uk.com/
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