Re: [WSG] Interview markup?

2004-09-05 Thread Lea de Groot
On Sun, 05 Sep 2004 14:53:46 +1000, Michael Nelson wrote: I mean, a definition list is really for definitions No, I don't agree. The W3C docs site two example uses: - a standard term and definition usage, and - marking up dialogues. see http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/struct/lists.html#h-10.3

Re: [WSG] Browsing without images

2004-09-05 Thread Marc Greenstock
Patrick H. Lauke wrote: just checked the various IR methods. your best bet looks like Gilder/Levin and/or the Shea enhancement http://www.mezzoblue.com/tests/revised-image-replacement/ Hmmm... I like the Gilder/Levin method... Oh and sorry I haven't been keeping up with the old image

[WSG] Recap of free briefing for Education and Government

2004-09-05 Thread russ - maxdesign
Last Thursday night was our Adopting Web Standards - Free briefing for Education and Government. It was a highly successful night with almost 100 education and government developers in attendance. Roger Hudson presented Universal Accessibility - with some very interesting demonstrations. His

Re: [WSG] scroll inside a page

2004-09-05 Thread Daniela Hoffmann
HiTed, Ryan, Jeffery an Peter, everything works fine now. I didn't trythisthis 'overflow:scroll' yet, but I'll keep it in mind if I wanta mainpage-scroll look likean inner scroll 'cause I guess hereone can style them together via CSS. And

[WSG] When to start?

2004-09-05 Thread Dylan Egan
Hi, I was wondering what would be the best time to start using XForms? Thankfully IBM and Novell are lending a hand to Mozilla to get XForms into the core and I hope this isn't a long development process. I am unsure as to what I should limit myself to in terms of standards compliance and

Re: [WSG] web essentials briefing/ westciv CSS Guide

2004-09-05 Thread Kay Smoljak
On Fri, 3 Sep 2004 19:43:36 +1000, Hugh Todd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you're based in Oz however you'd be a fool to miss it. Why, though? The calibre of the people looks fantastic, but would it be worth spending $750 to see them? I really, really, really, REALLY wish I could go, but

[WSG] www.meetup.com launches standards compliant site

2004-09-05 Thread Neerav
the css for www.meetup.com is valid and except for a few small quibbles the xhtml is valid too -- Neerav Bhatt http://www.bhatt.id.au Web Development IT consultancy Mobile: +61 (0)403 8000 27 http://www.bhatt.id.au/blog/ - Ramblings Thoughts http://www.bookcrossing.com/mybookshelf/neerav

[WSG] Fake link, All JS, or CSS+Conditional Comments?

2004-09-05 Thread Mordechai Peller
I'm building an expanding menu and I'm trying to decide the best route to take. The idea is that by clicking on an item it will either be a link or open the sub-menu. The problem come in for the sub-menu headings and IE's lack of support for :hover. So here are the options: 1) dta

[WSG] Empty DT's?

2004-09-05 Thread Mordechai Peller
Related to my last thread (Fake link,...), I'm debating which is the better choice: using a consistent framework, but have an (usually) empty dt, or use a ul for the top level? Here's what the code would look like: *dl dt!--optional Menu Heading--/dt dda href=opt1.htmlOpt1/a/dd dd

Re: [WSG] Fake link, All JS, or CSS+Conditional Comments?

2004-09-05 Thread Kristof Neirynck
On Sun, 05 Sep 2004 16:24:09 +0200, Mordechai Peller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm building an expanding menu and I'm trying to decide the best route to take. The idea is that by clicking on an item it will either be a [snip] If JavaScript isn't available the menus will either default to all

Re: [WSG] Browsing without images

2004-09-05 Thread James Denholm-Price
On Sat, 04 Sep 2004 14:16:26 +0100, Patrick H. Lauke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You just realised it, but this has been a huge part of the whole image replacement discussion from the beginning. http://www.google.com/search?q=accessibility+image+replacement+css No, there's no way to test if

[WSG] Z-Index in IE - Got a problem need help

2004-09-05 Thread Jay Hills
Hello, After reading DWWS (Zeldman) and fiddling around with some DOM script, I've got a series of tabs which when clicked reveal a menu underneath, using toggling of the CSS display element. (display: none; and display: ; is toggled). I used Z-index 1 for the tab, and Z-index 2 for the

Re: [WSG] Browsing without images

2004-09-05 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
James Denholm-Price wrote: Dunno if the assumption about screen readers not loading images is correct, though... The main mistake in that article is that, for the most part, screen readers don't do anything on their own. They're pieces of software which run on top of the normal operating

Re: [WSG] Fake link, All JS, or CSS+Conditional Comments?

2004-09-05 Thread Mordechai Peller
Kristof Neirynck wrote: You've got php, right? Sorry, but your answer is irrelevant as it completely ignores my question. I wasn't asking HOW to make it work. I am already skilled in CSS, JavaScript, and PHP and the methods suggested by the evolt article are good for a beginner, but I find

[WSG] Z-Index in IE - Got a problem need help

2004-09-05 Thread Jay Hills
Hello, After reading DWWS (Zeldman) and fiddling around with some DOM script, I've got a series of tabs which when clicked reveal a menu underneath, using toggling of the CSS display element. (display: none; and display: ; is toggled). I used Z-index 1 for the tab, and Z-index 2 for the

RE: [WSG] Anyone know of any good DOM tutorials?

2004-09-05 Thread Seona Bellamy
Hi Michael, No, :hover isn't an option since what I want to do is have stuff hidden when you print it. I'm using Zeldman's toggle script, and I want to set it up so that only expanded items will print (at the moment the headings of non-expanded items also prints, so that you get a lot of wasted

Re: [WSG] Z-Index in IE - Got a problem need help

2004-09-05 Thread Peter Asquith
Jay Hills wrote: You can use Mozilla/Firefox/Opera to see what I mean at http://www.ikonik.net/2/. It works in Internet Explorer but the tabs 'flicker'. Is this a problem with the Z-index in IE or have I done something else wrong with my CSS? link: http://www.ikonik.net/2/css/visual.css. Hi Jay

RE: [WSG] Anyone know of any good DOM tutorials?

2004-09-05 Thread Lee Roberts
Why not simply set up your Print CSS file to print only the main content? If the person is only after that information everything else is a waste of paper. Everyone always tries to find fancy ways to do simply tasks. Shame. Lee Roberts HYPERLINK http://www.roserockdesign.com

Re: [WSG] When to start?

2004-09-05 Thread Justin French
Dylan, If you have no worries about shunting out a massive percentage of IE (and other browser) users to adopt a new technology with very little support, then go for it. Yes, that's sarcasm. You haven't told us what sort of site it is, but there ARE circumstances where this would be fine (if

[WSG] Brisbane Meeting, Wednesday

2004-09-05 Thread Lea de Groot
Wednesday 8 September (2 days from now) sees the Brisbane September meeting. We are proud to have John Allsopp (WestCiv - well known for Stylemaster) who will give a presentation entitled HTML, XHTML, semantics and the future of the web. Please make an entry in your diary and RSVP to [EMAIL

[WSG] Horizontal Scroll

2004-09-05 Thread Richard Czeiger
Hiya :o) CSS Question here: How do I get a horizontal scroll bar in a DIV but NOT a vertical scroll bar? Cheers, Richard ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web

Re: [WSG] Brisbane Meeting, Wednesday

2004-09-05 Thread John Allsopp
Lea, can I just say I am very much looking forward to being there. But just one slightly off topic question for any who lives in Brisbane or travel there frequently (please answer offlist) What's the best way to get from the airport to the CBD. Taxi? Bus? Other? Thanks, and see you in Brisbane