Re: [WSG] FYI: article on making your ASP.NET pages XHTML valid

2004-10-12 Thread Lachlan Hardy
Ryan Nichols wrote: If anyone is interested, I have done the same thing using another method. Instead of relying on text search and replace, you can just create your own HTMLTextWriter. I use XHTMLTextWriter when I want to write XHTML, and the standard when I don't. It's a wee bit more robust that

[WSG] Positioning (I think) problem with image

2004-10-12 Thread Lyn Patterson
Hi all I have a 3-col with header and footer layout main page I am re-doing with CSS. The jpg within the header, positioned at the far left : In Mozilla/Firefox it is positioned within the header as it should be. In IE and Opera it ends slightly below the header. There should be enough room

Re: [WSG] Positioning (I think) problem with image

2004-10-12 Thread Camilo Kawerín
Hi all Lyn Patterson wrote: The jpg within the header, positioned at the far left : In Mozilla/Firefox it is positioned within the header as it should be. In IE and Opera it ends slightly below the header. There should be enough room for itso am at a loss to work out why this is

[WSG] DL Formatting Issue (IE again!)

2004-10-12 Thread Golding, Antony
Hi all, I'm using the nifty Maxdesign definition list image gallery script (http://www.maxdesign.com.au/presentation/definition/dl-image-gallery.htm). I've got the page formatted as required by the web manager, but a format problem as arisen in IE only. The development page is available here:

Re: [WSG] DL Formatting Issue (IE again!)

2004-10-12 Thread Nick Gleitzman
On 12 Oct 2004, at 11:57 PM, Golding, Antony wrote: In Firefox, Opera, etc the layout appears perfectly as required. In IE6 however, below the final image some of the dd definition is repeated. At present, the final dd contains '21/09/2004 at 13:05:02' and beneath that, '5:02' appears. The

Re: [WSG] help with fixed positioning in IE

2004-10-12 Thread john
I appreciate the discussion on this...really, I do. :) Is there somebody who might be able to help me integrate this into my existing CSS? Am I to understand that I can't have my DOCTYPE set to XHTML (I'm not very well-versed in what IE Quirk Mode is)? Thanks. ~john _

[WSG] Div Away The Day

2004-10-12 Thread Chris Kennon
Hi, My CSS rebirth is less than a year old, in its infancy still. So as in human growth I'm mimicking what I see. One of my favorite sites is http://www.bbcamerica.com/bbcamerica.jsp , I've engaged in reworking the index page in CSS. My steps are thwarted when recreating the highlight

[WSG] Note to Big John

2004-10-12 Thread Ted Drake
Sorry for the off-topic post, I wanted to ask Big John a question but couldn't find his email address. If you get this, could you respond off list? Ted Drake [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'd like to ask you about some consulting work. ** The discussion

RE: [WSG] Div Away The Day

2004-10-12 Thread JeoivJ
Welcome to CSS and Standards, Chris. It is a wonderful thing. This is my first post, and I have been a very, very long time lurker - so hello to everyone!!! A big thank you to the list Dad's and everyone that jumps in to help out. I have benefitted greatly from this community! If you are

[WSG] an interesting find in ie5

2004-10-12 Thread Ted Drake
Hi All I found something today that has probably been documented many times but was new to me. I have a maincontent div and inside it may be an image that is floated left. I wanted the paragraphs to float around it without having to put the image inside the paragraph tag. This worked fine in

Re: [WSG] Div Away The Day

2004-10-12 Thread Chris Kennon
Hi, Thanks, I looked at a css.maxdesign tutorial on DL after posting, and had decided on this method. Your affirmation is encouraging. Welcome aboard. C On Tuesday, October 12, 2004, at 10:21 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Welcome to CSS and Standards, Chris. It is a wonderful thing. This is my

[WSG] CSS caching problem in IE and Firefox

2004-10-12 Thread Sean Ho @ W3 Compliant Sites
Hi all, I am having this caching problem everytime I update my CSS file and the browser suddenly stop showing the new changes. This only happens in IE and Firefox occasioinally. I realised it straight away it's a caching problem but often clearing the cache (or temporary internet files in IE)

[WSG] Question

2004-10-12 Thread Jack
I have joined your web site group and have no idea how to use your web site. I am just a novice and want to use xhtml 1.0 and css2. I have created a site or two this way. This is my first site I created using xhtml 1.0 and css2 www.gracepointefc.org I am no longer the webmaster of the site

Re: [WSG] Question

2004-10-12 Thread Shane Helm
Hello Jack. Welcome to WSG. Rest assured you are in the right place. Don't be afraid to ask any question no matter how stupid you might think it is. You will find a wealth of info everyday and everyone is always sharing the latest reads online to learn more. If you are serious about Web

Re: [WSG] CSS caching problem in IE and Firefox

2004-10-12 Thread Kevin Futter
Hi Sean, IE on both platforms is notorious for its caching issues, but is especially tenacious on the Mac (though this is the first time I've heard of problems with Firefox). The usual solution, which doesn't always work, is to hold down the shift key while hitting refresh/reload (from memory,

RE: [WSG] CSS caching problem in IE and Firefox

2004-10-12 Thread Jason Turnbull
Sean Ho wrote: I am having this caching problem everytime I update my CSS file and the browser suddenly stop showing the new changes. This only happens in IE and Firefox occasioinally. Have you tried force refreshing? IE - hold Ctrl and select refresh Firefox - hold Shift and select refresh

Re: [WSG] Div Away The Day

2004-10-12 Thread Nick Gleitzman
Chris Kennon wrote: The four programs across have started a chain of DIVS that seem more cumbersome than table cells. How would one recommend recreating this in semantically correct CSS, without the tangled mess of DIVS I've birthed. Chris, before anything else, you have a fundamental error in

RE: [WSG] help with fixed positioning in IE

2004-10-12 Thread Focas, Grant
john, the solution requires putting the an html comment above the doctype declaration. If you also add this CSS hack it will work in IE/Mac, Safari and IE5 and 5.5/Windows: /* Mac IE cannot read this \*/ * html body{ /* only IE Win and MacOSX can see this, but is hidden from Mac IE by

[WSG] CSS TAB MENU - A new version with problems

2004-10-12 Thread Genau Junior
Hello everybody, I developed a kind of tab menu navigation using li, that changes when mouse over occours. Im rebuilding this site using xhtml. (under construction), and i having some problems with this menu. http://www.meucarronovo.com.br/xhtml Note that IE browser, freezes when

Re: [WSG] Div Away The Day

2004-10-12 Thread James Ellis
Chris That's true if you look at it from a rigid grid layout point of view. In this case the programs aren't tabular data, additionally if you wanted to represent the 4 programs in another visual format using css only then this wouldn't be possible with a table layout. My suggestion would be

Re: [WSG] help with fixed positioning in IE

2004-10-12 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
Focas, Grant wrote: john, the solution requires putting the an html comment above the doctype declaration. If the aim is to throw IE into quirks mode, I'd imagine that one may also consider just sticking the xml declaration there (but haven't got the time to test this assertion). Patrick H.

Re: [WSG] CSS caching problem in IE and Firefox

2004-10-12 Thread Kenneth Feldman
That's a great way to prevent caching problems. But maintaining all those separate sections of the style sheet can be cumbersome. I suggest using a PhP Include to add one style sheet to each developing page. That way you can have embedded style sheets which won't get cached, and still work

Re: [WSG] Vignette and web standards = disaster?

2004-10-12 Thread Ben Bishop
On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 23:51:48 +0100, Ian Fenn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm working on a major website and getting the problem Douglas Bowman describes here: Douglas clearly managed to - wired.com did indeed relaunch - but I'm awaiting his reply. It has been a day or so and I'm up against a

Re: [WSG] CSS TAB MENU - A new version with problems

2004-10-12 Thread Nick Gleitzman
Genau Junior wrote: Can anyone explain me why this browser freezes, when the mouse sets over the css menu tab?   PS:   My css file still no validated and some classes  are repeated, but on final version, that will be fixed.   Rule #1 for problem-solving: eliminate variables. In this case:

Re: [WSG] CSS TAB MENU - A new version with problems

2004-10-12 Thread Genau Junior
I mean that some classes aren´t being used anymore. I dont think that it is my problem Genau Lopes Júnior WebDesigner ¬¬¬ http://www.meucarronovo.com.br - Original Message - From: Nick Gleitzman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October

[WSG] Wsg

2004-10-12 Thread Kenneth Feldman
I am having this caching problem everytime I update my CSS file and the browser suddenly stop showing the new changes. But you still loose one of the other advantages of using xhtml+css: the bandwidth saving of having a cached css and only having the xhtml having to be loaded... I'd

[WSG] RE: One remaining problem with header

2004-10-12 Thread Lyn Patterson
Thanks to Russ this is now fixed - a missing end tag - I should have validated before posting. Thanks Lyn ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting

[WSG] In Brisbane right now and want to meet Doug Bowman?

2004-10-12 Thread russ - maxdesign
One of those completely unplanned things... If you are in Brisbane right now and want to meet Doug Bowman (who is stopping off for a few hours only), call me on 0403 433 980 or email offlist. Russ ** The discussion list for

Re: [WSG] Div Away The Day

2004-10-12 Thread Chris Kennon
Hi, Food for thought, thanks for pointing out the fundamental error. C On Tuesday, October 12, 2004, at 04:01 PM, Nick Gleitzman wrote: Chris Kennon wrote: The four programs across have started a chain of DIVS that seem more cumbersome than table cells. How would one recommend recreating this in

Re: [WSG] Div Away The Day

2004-10-12 Thread Chris Kennon
Hi, Can you point me to this section in the w3.org specification. I'm not doubting your expertise, but I'm confused why a class and id cannot have the same name. On Tuesday, October 12, 2004, at 04:01 PM, Nick Gleitzman wrote: Chris, before anything else, you have a fundamental error in your

Re: [WSG] Vignette and web standards = disaster?

2004-10-12 Thread Lea de Groot
On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 23:51:48 +0100, Ian Fenn wrote: Douglas clearly managed to - wired.com did indeed relaunch - but I'm awaiting his reply. It has been a day or so and I'm up against a tight deadline :-( FYI - Doug Bowman is currently touring around Asutralia and probably isnt redig his

Re: [WSG] Div Away The Day

2004-10-12 Thread Nick Gleitzman
On 13 Oct 2004, at 11:43 AM, Chris Kennon wrote: Can you point me to this section in the w3.org specification. I'm not doubting your expertise, but I'm confused why a class and id cannot have the same name. On Tuesday, October 12, 2004, at 04:01 PM, Nick Gleitzman wrote: Chris, before anything

Re: [WSG] Div Away The Day

2004-10-12 Thread Chris Kennon
Hi, Don't be salty :) Thanks for taking the time, hope all is well. Plenty of names to go around, so I'll spread them out, just to avoid confusion. Peace, Chris On Tuesday, October 12, 2004, at 07:46 PM, Nick Gleitzman wrote: But hey, whatever works for you... Imagination is more important than

[WSG] Melbourne WSG Meeting - Times URL

2004-10-12 Thread David McDonald
Following on from the previous email regarding the Melbourne WSG meeting titled 'Accessibility and standards for web designers/developers': Start time: 6:30pm Keep posted to this page for updates: http://webstandardsgroup.org/go/event22.cfm Regards, David McDonald Web Designer

Re: [WSG] CSS caching problem in IE and Firefox

2004-10-12 Thread Amit Karmakar
Try this Sean, http://www.karmakars.com/weblog/archives/2004/03/25/cache On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 08:53:40 +1000, Jason Turnbull [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sean Ho wrote: I am having this caching problem everytime I update my CSS file and the browser suddenly stop showing the new changes. This