[WSG] CSS Optgroup indentation in IE
Title: CSS Optgroup indentation in IE Hi all, Does anyone know how to remove the indentation of options within optgroups in IE? It works fine in Firefox as you'd expect but is it possible to alter it in IE? I've tried margin, padding and text-indent with no luck on both the optgroup and option, have I missed something, or is it just not supported? Vaguely the code is as below select optgroup label= option/option option/option option/option /optgroup optgroup label= option/option option/option option/option /optgroup /select Thanks a lot. Jamie Mason
[WSG] Funky tags or XHTML2 Transistional
I'm thinking about creating my own doctype/DTD and adding some new tags. Instead of having div class=foo or span class=foo I'd like to simpy have foo tag. div and span have no semantic meaning, and foo in practice would have no meaning either, but there are some advantages: - less to write - validator can check these against dtd - getElementsByTagName I could start using XHTML2 section tag :) This won't be block tag for current browers, but if it starts and ends with block elements, there will be no problem. What do you think about the idea? useful/harmful? Do you know any user-agents that won't accept such tags? or misbehave with custom dtd? Maybe I should use namespace instead of creating pseudoHTML? -- regards, Kornel Lesiski ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] Happy New Year!
Dear All! Here I would like to wish you all, your families, friends and associates a very Happy, Healthy and Successful New Year. Besides, I wish that everyone will go on supporting the World Wide Web Initiative, in making the Web accessible and usable to all! At last I wish, that all of us would will give our best effort to help the victims and their families who are in need, due to the disaster in the countries around the Indian Ocean. My kindest regards, John S. Britsios Principal Web Accessibility Consultant, Usability Specialist Trainer http://www.webnauts.net ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Happy New Year!
Happy New year with warmest wish for a safe and prosperous one to you and yours. btw, I'm only a learner right now, but I will abide by standards ;) Agree in supporting the vicitims overseas right now. They have my prayers for a quick recovery as well as for the losses that they are experiencing with their families. God Bless. cssaddict - Original Message - From: John Britsios [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Friday, December 31, 2004 12:46 PM Subject: [WSG] Happy New Year! Dear All! Here I would like to wish you all, your families, friends and associates a very Happy, Healthy and Successful New Year. Besides, I wish that everyone will go on supporting the World Wide Web Initiative, in making the Web accessible and usable to all! At last I wish, that all of us would will give our best effort to help the victims and their families who are in need, due to the disaster in the countries around the Indian Ocean. My kindest regards, John S. Britsios Principal Web Accessibility Consultant, Usability Specialist Trainer http://www.webnauts.net ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] CSS Optgroup indentation in IE
Jamie Mason wrote: Hi all, Does anyone know how to remove the indentation of options within optgroups in IE? It works fine in Firefox as you'd expect but is it possible to alter it in IE? I've tried margin, padding and text-indent with no luck on both the optgroup and option, have I missed something, or is it just not supported? You could cheat and use the nbsp; character to padd out menus? -David ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] button type=submit or input type=submit
Whats more appropriate for form submission? Quite frankly, I can't see any advantage of input type=submit/reset over button type=submit/reset, for one... its more semantic... I wans a button, not an input field... right there Also, most UI button widgets are used to submit forms themselves, right? Not to submit values So what do you use, where, and why? -David ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] What can you say to a site like this?
One of my goals for the coming two years is to learn some basic German, Italian and French for my planned trip through Europe at the end of 2006. I decided to try and find some information about TAFE courses online. Big mistake - I should have just called them :) Check out the Central TAFE web site in Firefox: http://central.tafe.wa.edu.au/ First thing: they have a make text larger button at the bottom of the screen. Cool - except that every single piece of text on that entire page except for the font-size enlarger is an image. So all that hitting that button will do (on the home page at least) is make the font-size enlarger bigger. Adding insult to injury, the font-size didn't seem to be affected in the body text of any subsequent page, only on some links. When I tried to search for couse information, I received a JavaScript alert telling me Your browser needs updating. This site will not function correctly with your current browser. Almost all the links try to open in new windows too. I tried turning off JavaScript to stop the annoying alerts but then nothing works. So, I sat down to compose a letter of eduction and complaint, however I didn't really know what I should say. I managed to resist the urge to simply yell I hope you're not teaching any web design courses (actually I know they are) or My browser needs updating? YOUR WEB SITE NEEDS UPDATING!. I could sit down and try to explain about Firefox and accessibility, but will it make any difference? Who's going to get that message, some enrolments officer who will bin it straight away? Does anyone have a boiler-plate your site sucks, buddy email that they'd like to share? Perhaps the Web Standards Group should develop one, with links to official information sources for government, standards bodies etc? -- Kay Smoljak http://kay.smoljak.com/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] What can you say to a site like this?
Kay Smoljak wrote: Does anyone have a boiler-plate your site sucks, buddy email that they'd like to share? Perhaps the Web Standards Group should develop one, with links to official information sources for government, standards bodies etc? You could send this page, or link to it: http://members.optusnet.com.au/~night.owl/morons.html My page is probably too subtle for such a site http://members.ij.net/mrmazda/auth/defaultsize.html but you might include http://members.ij.net/mrmazda/auth/wauth2.html or some of the links there. -- I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.John 14:6 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://members.ij.net/mrmazda/auth/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] What can you say to a site like this?
On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 23:20:42 -0500, Felix Miata [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You could send this page, or link to it: http://members.optusnet.com.au/~night.owl/morons.html I think that's probably counter-productive. It's not that they are morons, it's that they're a quite-large educational organisation, probably government-run (not sure on the specifics there) and I get the feeling that site is a culmination of many, many levels of beaurocracy and probably a stinky CMS someone somwhere along the line paid an obscene amount of money for. A case of them muddling along, updating and occasionally forcing someone to hack in new features (like the font-size switcher[1]) and NOT proactively fixing it, as opposed to someone purposely making it bad. My aim in sending a letter of outrage/complaint is to try to bring someone attention that because of what they're NOT doing, their site is a) not serving their market; and b) most probably illegal. K. -- Kay Smoljak http://kay.smoljak.com/ [1] Imagined conversation: Some pointy-haired boss: Oh dear, what about all this accessibility legislation? 17yo work experience dude who's just completed their Certificate in Multimedia: Don't worry, I'll put in a font-size increaser! ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
