Re: [WSG] Gnews - THREAD CLOSED
I don't understand your answer. I think that is a check for a new product that respects all w3c technology. What is strange? I don't know sincerely. regards Daniel http://www.gizax.it Mark Stanton wrote: Guys I really can't see how this dicussion relates to web standards. This is an ad for a product. Sure the output validates and there are W3C logos in the footer, but seriously ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] overflow
Hello, group. :) I've never used overflow before, but I'm experimenting with possibly using it as a means to contain a product listing within a page design (essentially keeping the page itself relatively short, but having the product listing scrolling within one of the divs). My question is...since right now, I have both horizontal and vertical scrollbars on that div...how do I prevent the horizontal scrollbar from appearing? Another possible question might be should I even use the overflow, and instead use an iframe? I know little about them, but it doesn't strike me as very standards-compliant or good from a usability standpoint. Thank you for your help and advice. -- ~john _ Dr. Zeus Web Development http://www.DrZeus.net content without clutter ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] Problems with floats in IE
Hey boys/girls, Having a small problem with a page (of course the problem is only in IE6) basically the floated fieldsets are causing the top left corner of the white box to fall out of position. Otherwise everything seems fine. Would a few people who are good at IE hacks / floats mind looking at: http://members.stansw.asn.au/testdrive/ Thanks in advance! As always, any other comments are appreciated too. Thanks, Tatham Oddie Fuel Advance
RE: [WSG] centering a page
Have a look at how I managed to get it to work on http://e-oddie.com/. This is the only decent way I've found. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alan Trick Sent: Tuesday, 8 March 2005 1:43 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] centering a page I'm trying to get a page to center vertically and horizontally, it works well on IE/win and gecko, but when I checked it on mac, both safari and IE/win mess it up. Any suggestions or links to resources on how to center things in the viewport? Here's a link to what I've been working with: http://jellybean.uni.cc/creamcheese/become_a_client.html ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] overflow
john wrote: I've never used overflow before, but I'm experimenting with possibly using it as a means to contain a product listing within a page design (essentially keeping the page itself relatively short, but having the product listing scrolling within one of the divs). My question is...since right now, I have both horizontal and vertical scrollbars on that div...how do I prevent the horizontal scrollbar from appearing? Basically by keeping everything inside the scrolling div slightly narrower than the div itself. Width: auto; on the content will usually fix that, if your layout allows. Overflow: scroll; will give you both a vertical and a horizontal scrollbars, no matter what. Overflow: auto; will provide scrollbars where needed, so if your content fits sideways but overflow in height, you will/should only get a vertical scrollbar. IE/win _may_ need something like this: overflow-y: auto; overflow-x: visible (or hidden);. It may also need its own adjustments on content-width. All the other variables in your layout may create the need for some additional adjustments, but I can't see it, so... Another possible question might be should I even use the overflow, and instead use an iframe? I know little about them, but it doesn't strike me as very standards-compliant or good from a usability standpoint. Iframes addresses separate pages, and such a solution _may_ work well. Not my favorite though. Not much easier to control either. regards Georg -- http://www.gunlaug.no ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Problems with floats in IE
A quick answer would be to create a new left-hand side image with an extra 25px(?) of the grey gradient background on the left, and then set the horizontal background position to -25px(?) on decent browsers, eg. Firefox, et al. background-position: -25px 0; IE6 background-position: 0 0; Maybe use the 'underscore hack' (_background-position: 0 0;) to feed the declaration to IE6 (invalidate your CSS) or use MS conditional comments. It may not be pretty, there may well be a better way, but it works (at least on Firefox and IE6!) cheers, Stuart Tatham Oddie wrote: Hey boys/girls, Having a small problem with a page (of course the problem is only in IE6) basically the floated fieldsets are causing the top left corner of the white box to fall out of position. Otherwise everything seems fine. Would a few people who are good at IE hacks / floats mind looking at: http://members.stansw.asn.au/testdrive/ Thanks in advance! As always, any other comments are appreciated too. Thanks, Tatham Oddie Fuel Advance -- === = El Bombin http://elbombin.stuarthomfray.co.uk Stuart Homfray http://www.stuarthomfray.co.uk === ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re[2]: [WSG] Problems with floats in IE
HelloStuart,
Hello Tatham,
use clear: left;
/* Sidebar Styles */
fieldset.sidebarBlock,
div.sidebarBlock
{
display: block;
width: 300px;
float: right;
clear: left; ---
margin: 10px 0 0 15px;
}
Wednesday,March9,2005,1:21:18AM,youwrote:
Aquickanswerwouldbetocreateanewleft-handsideimagewithan
extra25px(?)ofthegreygradientbackgroundontheleft,andthenset
thehorizontalbackgroundpositionto-25px(?)ondecentbrowsers,eg.
Firefox,etal.
background-position:-25px0;
IE6
background-position:00;
Maybeusethe'underscorehack'(_background-position:00;)tofeedthe
declarationtoIE6(invalidateyourCSS)oruseMSconditionalcomments.
Itmaynotbepretty,theremaywellbeabetterway,butitworks(at
leastonFirefoxandIE6!)
cheers,
Stuart
TathamOddiewrote:
Heyboys/girls,
Havingasmallproblemwithapage(ofcoursetheproblemisonlyin
IE6)basicallythefloatedfieldsetsarecausingthetopleftcornerof
thewhiteboxtofalloutofposition.Otherwiseeverythingseemsfine.
WouldafewpeoplewhoaregoodatIEhacks/floatsmindlookingat:
http://members.stansw.asn.au/testdrive/
Thanksinadvance!Asalways,anyothercommentsareappreciatedtoo.
Thanks,
TathamOddie
FuelAdvance
--
Bestregards,
Chrismailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [WSG] Gnews
sorry but thread is closed - Original Message - From: Olajide Olaolorun [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Web Standards Group wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 3:35 PM Subject: Re: [WSG] Gnews If you use what Jamie says you should, make sure it is safe with Register Globals cause hackers use that to hack you... :) Nice work :) -- Best Regards, Olajide Olaolorun @ www.olajideolaolorun.com ...ain't nothing impossible unless you make it... ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] overflow
overflow: auto; /me scratches his head...I knew that. I did, really! I must have just spaced it. :) Thanks again. Works like a charm. --- Gunlaug Sørtun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: john wrote: I've never used overflow before, but I'm experimenting with possibly using it as a means to contain a product listing within a page design (essentially keeping the page itself relatively short, but having the product listing scrolling within one of the divs). My question is...since right now, I have both horizontal and vertical scrollbars on that div...how do I prevent the horizontal scrollbar from appearing? Basically by keeping everything inside the scrolling div slightly narrower than the div itself. Width: auto; on the content will usually fix that, if your layout allows. Overflow: scroll; will give you both a vertical and a horizontal scrollbars, no matter what. Overflow: auto; will provide scrollbars where needed, so if your content fits sideways but overflow in height, you will/should only get a vertical scrollbar. IE/win _may_ need something like this: overflow-y: auto; overflow-x: visible (or hidden);. It may also need its own adjustments on content-width. All the other variables in your layout may create the need for some additional adjustments, but I can't see it, so... Another possible question might be should I even use the overflow, and instead use an iframe? I know little about them, but it doesn't strike me as very standards-compliant or good from a usability standpoint. Iframes addresses separate pages, and such a solution _may_ work well. Not my favorite though. Not much easier to control either. regards Georg -- http://www.gunlaug.no ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** __ Celebrate Yahoo!'s 10th Birthday! Yahoo! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web http://birthday.yahoo.com/netrospective/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] I hope this is not off topic, W3c validation error
On Mon, 7 Mar 2005 20:00:09 -0800, InfoForce Services (Angus MacKinnon) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hope this is not off topic. If it is, please reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am starting to get very fustrated. When I try to use the W3C validator for an HTML file, I keep getting the following error. Angus, Your dog Dabney is your best friend, followed by Tidy Online. http://infohound.net/tidy/ Your file is valid thanks to determination of the doctype and some corrections by Tidy. You'll need to change the title to one that's more appropriate title. http://www.dlaakso.com/angus.html Best, David -- de gustibus non est disputandum http://www.dlaakso.com/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] centering a page-Addendum
On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 09:43:27 -0500, Alan Trick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm trying to get a page to center vertically and horizontally [---] Alan, this is a test page based on Jon Hicks code http://www.dlaakso.com/center-stuff.html Tested and works, more or less, in XP_SP2 IE6.0, FF1.0, Opera7.54u2, and Safari. Degrades to h-center, vertically 22px from top viewport, in Mac/IE5x (Mac/IE not tested). Best, ~david -- de gustibus non est disputandum http://www.dlaakso.com/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: Re[2]: [WSG] Problems with floats in IE
Stuart,
Thanks for your idea Im going to try and get
Chris to work first because I think its a cleaner solution. If
necessary Ill fall back to yours though.
Chris,
Using clear: left certainly fixes it, but then my forms
stack horizontally across the page. Somehow I need a clear: right or clear:
both rule in there, however both of these break the page.
Any suggestions?
I dont even understand how the floats are affecting
the left-position of the parent box
Thanks!
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Dawes
Sent: Wednesday, 9 March 2005 1:30
AM
To: Stuart Homfray
Subject: Re[2]: [WSG] Problems
with floats in IE
HelloStuart,
Hello Tatham,
use clear: left;
/* Sidebar Styles */
fieldset.sidebarBlock,
div.sidebarBlock
{
display: block;
width: 300px;
float: right;
clear: left;
---
margin: 10px 0 0
15px;
}
Wednesday,March9,2005,1:21:18AM,youwrote:
Aquickanswerwouldbetocreateanewleft-handsideimagewithan
extra25px(?)ofthegreygradientbackgroundontheleft,andthenset
thehorizontalbackgroundpositionto-25px(?)ondecentbrowsers,eg.
Firefox,etal.
background-position:-25px0;
IE6
background-position:00;
Maybeusethe'underscorehack'(_background-position:00;)tofeedthe
declarationtoIE6(invalidateyourCSS)oruseMSconditionalcomments.
Itmaynotbepretty,theremaywellbeabetterway,butitworks(at
leastonFirefoxandIE6!)
cheers,
Stuart
TathamOddiewrote:
Heyboys/girls,
Havingasmallproblemwithapage(ofcoursetheproblemisonlyin
IE6)basicallythefloatedfieldsetsarecausingthetopleftcornerof
thewhiteboxtofalloutofposition.Otherwiseeverythingseemsfine.
WouldafewpeoplewhoaregoodatIEhacks/floatsmindlookingat:
http://members.stansw.asn.au/testdrive/
Thanksinadvance!Asalways,anyothercommentsareappreciatedtoo.
Thanks,
TathamOddie
FuelAdvance
--
Bestregards,
Chrismailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[WSG] Windows Accessibility Options High-Contrast
Hi Can anyone direct me to info about Windows Accessibility Options High-Contrast settings - ie what size fonts it uses, etc? It seems to do some odd things - for example, the h2 Discussion List and the p class=header To Subscribe on this page: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/ are rendered the same size in High Contrast, despite being font-size: 135%; and font-size: 118%; in the WSG stylesheet. Appreciate any leads. Ciao Robin Gallagher DSTO Intranet Internet Manager (03) 9626 7386 ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
